It’s a vicious triangle. Leftist orgs like Open Society and the Tides Foundation pump money into SPLC, to agitate the LGBTs and to harass conservatives.
What is needed is an equivalent organization, called, for example, the Citizens Un-American Activities Committee (CUAC, a play on words of HUAC), that would publicize the whole litany of anti-Americanism by both the left and the government.
So when an organization like the SPLC or NAACP called some conservative group a “hate group” or “racist”, the SPLC and NAACP would in turn be called “un-American” or “anti-American”.
And in all fairness, CUAC should also condemn government actions that are unconstitutional and oppressive, like the ever increasing paranoid security apparatus.
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"So when an organization like the SPLC or NAACP called some conservative group a 'hate group' or 'racist', the SPLC and NAACP would in turn be called 'un-American' or “'nti-American'."
Don't conservatives already do that anyway? Everybody from the average conservative on the street to your talk show hosts to the highest ranks of government all pull this shit. Of course, that's after the politicians and the talk show hosts bitch and whine about it for a while to garner ratings and sympathy from other conservatives too stupid to see through the charade. Then you guys start doing the whole "anti-American" thing or, if you're not feeling particularly bright that day, you simply act like a five-year-old and do the whole, "Yeah, well so are you !" bit and resort to labeling whoever hurt your feelings this week a "hate group" too.
So calling someone a racist is un-American?
CUAC should also condemn government actions that are unconstitutional and oppressive
That's what the ACLU does.
What is needed is an equivalent organization, called, for example, the Citizens Un-American Activities Committee (CUAC, a play on words of HUAC)
I see what you did there. It's really not very clever.
So when an organization like the SPLC or NAACP called some conservative group a “hate group” or “racist”, the SPLC and NAACP would in turn be called “un-American” or “anti-American”.
I think most people would prefer to be 'anti-American' rather than racist.
Do whatever you want. If you want to start an organization that is only there to label groups it doesn't agree with as anti-American and doesn't actually do anything worthwhile (SPLC and NAACP both contribute valuable services) go ahead. Just don't expect anyone to take that organization's labels seriously. By the way, groups like the Family Research Council are labeled as hate groups not because they're conservative, hell, not even because they hate gays but because they spread misinformation about gays and fund initiatives such as the death penalty for gays in Uganda. Financing someone's death just because they're gay is pretty damn hateful.
"So when an organization like the SPLC or NAACP called some conservative group a “hate group” or “racist”, the SPLC and NAACP would in turn be called “un-American” or “anti-American”. "
But then Americans could call that conservative group "Pro AL'Queda" or "has cooties" or "Nazicommunist".
To be serious for a moment, Pat Robertson already did that. He started the ACLJ (evil twin of ACLU) to assist christians in getting court approval to opress Americans.
So basically you want to start an organization that would basically say, "I know you are but what am I?"
And why is it I get the feeling that "un-American" means "not a god-fearing, white, conservative, heterosexual, Republican-voting, Christian male?"
"Help! Help! We are being oppressed and harassed! We are no longer able to string uppity niggers from lampposts! We are put in jail when we beat up fags and leave them for dead! We are put in jail when we give lesbians a good old-fashioned corrective rape! Help! Help! Our human rights have been robbed from us!"
Yuch! My fingers and eyes feel dirty from just writing that stuff...
Don't you already have an organization which condemns actions that are unconstitutional and oppressive? I believe it's called the ACLU.
Isn't the Shrub mostly responsible for the ever increasing paranoid security apparatus?
So when an organization like the SPLC or NAACP called some conservative group a “hate group” or “racist”, the SPLC and NAACP would in turn be called “un-American” or “anti-American”.
We already have an organization that does that. It calls itself "Fox News"
Let me get this straight... someone who points out how groups that are actively attempting to violate the rights that people are GUARANTEED in the fucking Constitution are nothing less than "hate groups" is, to your mind, un-American??
Basically, this boils down to "Waaaaahhhh! People are persecuting me for being a bigot!"
And no, they are not persecuting you. What they are doing, however, is standing up to you because you want to be the oppressor.
This whole suit seems like a fairly easy win for the SPLC. They label a hate group as such, and get sued for it by said hate group for a ridiculous sum of money.
But in reference to the quote at hand, only an idiot models an organisation after McCarthy.
"This whole suit seems like a fairly easy win for the SPLC. They label a hate group as such, and get sued for it by said hate group for a ridiculous sum of money."
Wait, SPLC are actually being sued?
@The Crimson Ghost
And unless there's something in there that I'm not seeing, this guy has a really stupid name.
I think it's supposed to be a phonetic rendering of "You forget you're a Brummie" in a Birmingham accent. Although that would presumably make him English, so why he'd be whining about anti-Americanism I don't know.
So will you only consider the NAACP American when they defend Christians like they have many, many times?
Of course you never hear about that on nut-job sites like freerepublic. You have to actually care about truth to find these things out.
What Mr. gibberish-name doesn't understand is that this new committe would ALSO be against neocons (and yes, I'm calling them what they really are), because neocons spit in the face of everything America stands for.
Reynardine wrote: "BlackMagel: there is also a Birmingham in the U.S., one of considerable ill fame"
It also is one of the leading cancer, and cardiology research centers, in the US.
I agree only with the very last statement, by all means condemn government actions that are unconstitutional and oppressive, and yes this does include the ever increasing paranoid security apparatus. The rest of this is a bunch of horseshit though.
"And in all fairness, CUAC should also condemn government actions that are unconstitutional and oppressive, like the ever increasing paranoid security apparatus."
And you're basing this off the organization that was overly paranoid about communism?
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