Let me clarify.
The Bible says that the Africans came from Babylon. That is why I believe it. Also because human history proves it. But when I say human history, I don't mean any period when people were not people, because no such time existed.
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"I don't mean any period when people were not people, because no such time existed."
If anyone needed a definition of "trivially true," there it is.
Looks like I just fell victim to the double post monster.
While I'm here, I don't suggest attempting to read the thread from the beginning. . . one of them's trying to argue that a lie is not harmful to the recipient if the liar doesn't know s/he's lying. . . .
Hi drkildare, do you sometimes feel as though you were trapped in the wrong body? As though somehow you don't belong? Do you often get the urge to stand in a hole in the ground? Well, the answer is simple.
You simply were not made for this life. You weren't even made for any animal form of existence. You are more suited to the vegetable way of life, you're nearly there already. You would make a perfect, though inedible, cabbage.
It's been awhile since I've read the bible, but I don't remember that being there. Can you give a reference? No? Didn't think so.
But when I say human history, I don't mean any period when people were not people, because no such time existed.
This is particularly confusing. I'm really surprised that you have the brain capacity to figure out that people cannot not be people.
The Bible says that the Africans came from Babylon
Chapter and verse please.
I'm pretty sure that some early versions of Genesis have God beating Cain with hail until his face turned permanently black.
"The Bible says that the Africans came from Babylon."
You don't understand your own bible, do you?
"Also because human history proves it"
No, it does not.
Now bugger off.
Genetics and fossils prove you wrong. Irish, Swedish, Chinese, Jewish, Hispanic, we are all African-American if you go back far enough.
I've been scoping this site know for a couple of years and a deep dispondency is being to set in.
The thought that there is an entire subculture - mainly in the US but spread round the world - that follows implicitly an incredible belief is depressing.
To reflect upon the sheer viciousness of the fundies (of the three ambrahamic religions) with respect to people they consider sinners is frankly frightening! If you put Muslim, Jewish, and Xian fundies together they will agree that gays deserve death, uppity women need putting in their place,and only then that their particular brand of insanity is the true one!
You may take this as a crie di coeur - these people truly depress me, and not least because we end up subsidising them
"Where in the Bible does it say that?"
The descriptions of the Garden of Eden in Genesis mention the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which flow through modern-day Iraq.
Since Adam and Eve came from the Garden of Eden, all humans had to have come from the Babylon region, including Africans, Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, and Marcel Marceau.
Chapter and verse? Cause I don't think the Bible actually says that.
And even if it does, it is incorrect.
Babylon isn't in Africa, it's in Asia.
Human history, by definition, could not have existed without humans any more than the history of aviation cannot start until the introduction of aeroplanes.
However, there are billions of years of "history" before humans. That's billions, with a b, and it sure as fuck existed. Unlike the funny sky fairies you creotards like to believe in.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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