@Calilasseia
So a few priests fall from the way. The vast majority successfully remain celibate. The reason there are so many scandals is because pedophiles who realize they were born with unclean urges and that it is not right to act on them try to be priests so they have to suppress the urges. For most of them it works, just like anybody can choose to be celibate but a small number succumb to temptation. It's just that that's more scandalous and newsworthy than a priest who breaks his vow of celibacy with an adult.
Of course one of the big reasons for the fall is of course afterall, it is just Christianity. It's not as pure as Judaism. If only they required rabbis to be celibate. But they worship the same God and it's still a great way to promote celibacy for those of my kids that do choose the Catholic path of my husband. But those of my kids that choose to emulate me and choose the right religion, Judaism then I'm sure they are influenced by me and will believe in celibacy until marriage and that marriage is a union between man and woman. Since all Christian religions are a distortion, making it difficult but not impossible for them to go to heaven I will encourage any child of mine who decides to be a Christian to enter the priesthood, since they are strict when it comes to sin. That will give them the best chance of entering heaven even while worshipping the Jesus idol.
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"The reason there are so many scandals is because pedophiles who realize they were born with unclean urges and that it is not right to act on them try to be priests so they have to suppress the urges."
Nothing to do with being an authority figure with access to young children then?
"So a few priests fall from the way. The vast majority successfully remain celibate."
So this is why you attack gays, tha vast majority is nowhere what you think, but hell, they're gay..
same with muslims, because a few are bad, you guys pin them al as such
Fuck off
Does your husband know how little you respect him? Do your kids know that your attitude about their sex lives is your way or the highway?
My boss is a Jewish woman married to a Catholic man; their kids are a Jew, a Catholic, and an apatheist. A good friend of mine is a Jewish woman with an atheist husband. They are raising their five small children Jewish. Both of them love their husbands, respect them, and are happy with their choices. Both of them also love and respect their children enough to let them make their own choices in matters of sex and religion.
KathleenTheTerrible wrote:
"Ay, Jellyjuice, your own fucking bible says priests have to be married. Read through the books of Timothy and figure that one out."
Actually, all the Timothy letters establish is that deacons of the church can't have more than one wife.
At the time Timothy was written, polygamy was still practiced.
" The reason there are so many scandals is because pedophiles who realize they were born with unclean urges and that it is not right to act on them try to be priests so they have to suppress the urges."
No it's because catholics aren't christians.
You mean you committed the sin of intermarriage? That you won't obey the commandment in your own OT to kill any family member who commits apostasy? What kind of Jew are you?
Oh, right - the kind of Jew who can't even be bothered to research what her own religion says about the hereafter.
"In case you missed the memo, JellyJuice, Judaism doesn't claim that people CAN get to Heaven."
Yes it certainly does. Most rabbinical scholars do believe there is an afterlife. The hereafter is called Olam Haba. Gan Eden is heaven. Hell is Gehinom although its not forever. At most its 12 months but I dont want my children to suffer. I know no one is perfect so everyone even me will go to Gehinom for at least a little while, but I expect to be there maybe 3 months at the most, partly because I intermarried. It was out of wedlock and I thought it would be more of a sin not to get married. Still I hope for my children to choose Judaism instead of Catholicism when they grow up since I know being a Christian will give them longer times in Gehinom (though not as long as other religions such as Islam). But if they are priests and live celibate lives that will lessen the amount of time. Having gay sex is so bad it would probably send the person to Gehinom for 11 months. Every rabbi I've known always says nobody's bad enough to get the maximum of 12 months, but I don't know gay sex is a pretty horendous thing.
I will encourage any child of mine who decides to be a Christian to enter the priesthood, since they are strict when it comes to sin.
And I hear a hell of a relocation program when they kid-diddle.
"You can be born a pedophile, but not gay?"
You can be born a pedophile and you can be born gay.
But BOTH are called upon by YWH to be CELIBATE.
"So, JellyJuice, you admit God makes people he hates?
Great job."
God doesn't make people he hates. God makes people with desires to do things that go against God in order to test them to see if they are loyal.
Honestly, I don't know what you're trying to say. Are pedophilia and homosexuality a sin?. If you're born with that, it's not sin coz free will is absent. Do you say that works, yes or not?. Because if it did, there wouldn't be so many cases, let alone if you hint that they break the vow with adults and is not reported. And besides, being a priest is a decision that one has to enforce on himself. It's not a penicillin which will heal you.
Besides, the last part is impossible to understand. Is Judaism in favour of celibacy?, is celibacy good or bad?. Make up your mind.
"Honestly, I don't know what you're trying to say. Are pedophilia and homosexuality a sin?. If you're born with that, it's not sin coz free will is absent. Do you say that works, yes or not?. Because if it did, there wouldn't be so many cases, let alone if you hint that they break the vow with adults and is not reported. And besides, being a priest is a decision that one has to enforce on himself. It's not a penicillin which will heal you.
Besides, the last part is impossible to understand. Is Judaism in favour of celibacy?, is celibacy good or bad?. Make up your mind."
Pedophilia and homosexuality are NOT sins.
Pedophilic sex and homosexual sex ARE sins.
Just because you desire something doesn't mean you have to choose to fulfill it.
Judaism is neither for or against celibacy. But I believe that if my kids choose the Catholic religion entering the priesthood will reduce their time in purgatory before going to heaven.
@ JellyJuice #708601
Judaism is neither for or against celibacy.
Absolutely wrong. Judaism is most definitely against celibacy, as all Jewish males are commanded to "be fruitful and multiply".
That said, females technically aren't, and as such there have been cases of semi-approved (or at least not outright condemned) Jewish lesbian relationships.
There is, however, a pasuk (namely, Leviticus 18:3 ) that has been interpreted to indirectly oppose lesbian sex, making it mostly unaccepted.
"MY CHILDREN MUST NEVER GROW UP AND HAVE SEX, NEVER... NEVEEER! UNCLEAN! UNCLEEEAAAN!"
On the topic of sex sounds like she has some awesome hate sex with her husband.
Confused?
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