Why Men are Gay..?
Several years ago I wanted to figure out the answer to this question. Conservative Christians say they chose to be gay and it's an act of sin, as if the devil temps them. Gays and Liberals will say they're born that way, it's in their DNA.
Over the next few years I was able to befriend a few gay men. You know what I discovered from talking to them? All of them had been molested/had a sexual experience with another male as a kid. One of the gays even told me how all of his gay friends had also been molested. Now the answer became pretty obvious.
I'm sure their are some men that were molested/had a sexual experience with a male as a child and still turned out straight. I think the severity of it has a lot to do with it. But it seems that if a male has their first sexual experiences with another male they'll them associate sex as something you do with a male. I also believe that many of the really girly gays you see where severely molested as a child (treated like a women sexually).
This obviously has many neg. physiological effects on the male child. Notice how most gay men had emotional issues, most suffer from depression.
I personally don't hate gays. I feel kinda bad for them. They obviously had mental and emotional trauma as a child a child and most need a lot of physiological help.
If we were able to create a White nation I would have no problem with gays having their own city away from the main population. They can be gay as long as they don't promote their lifestyle or raise children. They could also visit other cities and travel freely as long as they don't make it obvious they're gay.
They way I see it is gays would also benefit a lot from a White nationalist society. Look how gays are treated in none White countries like the Middle East or Africa? They're killed.
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Not as bad as some anti-gay posts I've seen. At least he is not advocating extermination.
Sorry to have to burst your bubble, AF, but you're wrong. I'm gay and I was born this way.
And right off the bat - no, I was never sexually molested as a child. My first experience was my cousin showing me what masturbation was, but by that time I was already interested in men.
Strange, none of my many gay friends have had this so-called molestation event that you propose. They say the same, they have always been attracted to men.
Any depression I suffer in regards to being gay stems from the sad state of gay rights in America. Seeing all the hatred can get one down.
And if you're curious, my cousin is straight.
"If we were able to create a White nation I would have no problem with gays having their own city away from the main population. They can be gay as long as they don't promote their lifestyle or raise children."
Would there also be gay women in this city or would they have *their* own city?
"They way I see it is gays would also benefit a lot from a White nationalist society. Look how gays are treated in none White countries like the Middle East or Africa? They're killed."
Uh, but in regular old melting pot America, they live wherever they damn well please, so how exactly would they benefit from being banished to a ghetto in your "society".
" Gays and Liberals will say they're born that way, it's in their DNA."
Willfully ignorant about the development of (homo)sexuality.
"They way I see it is gays would also benefit a lot from a White nationalist society. Look how gays are treated in none White countries like the Middle East or Africa? They're killed."
Willfully ignorant about history as well.
Pederasts do try to find gay boys in order to confuse the boy, make him wonder 'is this how it's supposed to happen'? That's why so many gay men got molested when they were younger.
Personally though, I would suggest that maybe AmericaFree is not beyond hope. All he's got to do is stop being a racist. Easier said than done, I hope it doesn't happen the way it did with Edward Norton's character in 'American History X'...
I just want to point out that hatred strong disapproval of gays has nothing at all to do with racism.
Meanwhile, in the real world, getting molested by a member of the same sex as a child is a great way to form a Freudian hatred of gays. As a method of making you want to be one...... not so much.
If we were able to create a White nation I would have no problem with gays having their own city away from the main population. They can be gay as long as they don't promote their lifestyle or raise children. They could also visit other cities and travel freely as long as they don't make it obvious they're gay.
But I thought you said earlier in your post "I personally don't hate gays."
@Nemo
I just want to point out that hatred strong disapproval of gays has nothing at all to do with racism.
Not necessarily, but they often go hand in hand. You often see homophobes who are racist, and often see racists who are homophobes. When you get into the habit of hating other people who are different, it's easy to go from one group to another.
This is obviously a lie, but I have a question. What about us bisexuals, hmm? Were we only half-molested or what? Oh, and how about all the people who were molested and are straight?
"This obviously has many neg. physiological effects on the male child. Notice how most gay men had emotional issues, most suffer from depression. "
And that just can't be because there are people like you saying that they're like this, unnatural and wrong, because there were molested and thus should be pitied.
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Ignoring the blatant lies in your anecdotes based on your own pre-determined conclusions, the idea that gays are only like they are because of abuse raises some undesirable questions for you. Does this mean that humanity is originally asexual and any sexuality is formed from what gender molested you during youth? Does this mean that straights were molested by the opposite sex as children? All reliable, comprehensive surveys indicate that homosexuals, like heterosexuals, have known their true internal desires since puberty, if not before. Sexualities from across the spectrum are not formed through different ways or at different times of development; the reasoning behind sexuality is not completely unrelated. Therefore, if you assert that homosexuality is a result of child molestation, then you'd have to argue the same for heterosexuality.
"They way I see it is gays would also benefit a lot from a White nationalist society. Look how gays are treated in none White countries like the Middle East or Africa? They're killed."
That's because those cultures are heavily influenced by religion that has always had a stigma around homosexuality, and many have been influenced by the homophobia of the west during colonial times. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Given your desires to create an apartheid state with regards to sexuality, the benefits for homosexuals to inhabit your white supremacist dreamland doesn't seem to be as advantageous as you'd think. They'd be much better off in a society based on secularism and rationality. FSTDTland would prove a much more gay friendly land the the fourth reich as envisioned by racists. You do have history!
I am living proof that you are wrong, AmericaFree. I was never molested. I was never abused (sexually, anyway). I didn't even really have a concept for what sex was until I was already interested in other guys. I've experienced no trauma of any kind relating to my sexuality, aside from the hateful and vitriolic reactions from people like you who see me as unnatural, or sinful, or just plain gross.
Gee, maybe that's why we have emotional issues and suffer from depression- because our so-called friends and families try to convince us that we are some kind of perverts, and should be hated and scorned until we "see the light," so to speak.
So, I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but you are wrong. In every way.
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