[No religion and an end to war: how the "learned" see the future]
Wow, some of the 'thinkers' are deluded. I don't know of any true Christian that will be leaving the faith just because of information overload (the net). I also doubt they will find many followers of Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism changing just because of easier access to info and new scientific discoveries.
To their amazement, they will find that in the next decades religion will become even more prevalent -- besides which they too have a religion, in many cases, it's agnosticism (or false-atheism).
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"Wow, some of the 'thinkers' are deluded. I don't know of any true Christian that will be leaving the faith just because of information overload (the net)."
I don't know of any free and deep thinkers who are claiming that.
"I also doubt they will find many followers of Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism changing just because of easier access to info and new scientific discoveries."
Yeah, I doubt that too. It's hard to reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
"To their amazement, they will find that in the next decades religion will become even more prevalent"
I expect that fundamental/evangelical/pentecostal Xianity AND atheism with become more prevalent in the coming decades, mostly at the expense of mainstream/moderate Xianity.
"besides which they too have a religion, in many cases, it's agnosticism (or false-atheism)."
Agnosticism and atheism are not religions, shitwad.
As concerns "false-atheism," what's that, Xianity?
My atheism is not false. Do not presume to tell me what I believe.
Repeat after me (and don't just move your lips while you read): Atheism is NOT a religion, it is NOT a faith, it is NOT against theism .. it has NOTHING to do with religions or theists other than to be WITHOUT (a-) RELIGION (theist).
Get over it already.
Wow, some of the 'thinkers' are deluded. I don't know of any true Christian that will be leaving the faith just because of information overload (the net). I also doubt they will find many followers of Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism changing just because of easier access to info and new scientific discoveries.
Unfortunately, I will have to agree with you. As Papabear said, it's hard to reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. But what may happen with the wealth of information and access to opposing views is to get some of the theists to
at least start thinking for themselves. If they do that, them perhaps they will come to the same conclusion that a good number on this site have arrived at. And that is that theism and religion, of any variety, simply is not logical and not worthy of serious consideration.
The article, they are commenting , may be too optimistic. I hope it isn't. Anyhow, these fundies are quite possibly right about being too willfully obtuse to get a clue.
I think religion will keep becoming less prevalent worldwide, but there may be regions where ignorant people fighting back manage to make it more prevalent among other ignorant people. Regions like the Middle East, Africa and the United States.
The United States is the most worrying, as they actually have the leverage to try and spread their religiosity around.
(Opens up the Ed Wood Memorial Closet and removes the body of Criswell. Waves his Magik Wand of False-Atheism at the body; its eyes pop open and it begins to speak)
Criswell: Greetings, my friends. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friends, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
(Criswell pauses briefly, then continues)
I PREDICT: The more things change, the more they will remain the same.
Nice dream.
Who knows?
I myself used to be christian, and am now very athiest, because of the Net.
I suspect that myriad information tends to blur the lines around certainty, so making it hard to believe what has been disproven or ruled very unlikely, and making it successively more difficult to make stupid fixes to your theories
Imagine a world without wars, crime or superstitions. Where scientists have uncovered the very secrets of the atom, the cell, and the human genome. Genetic diseases can be predicted and cured before they even begin, AIDS and cancer research will have reached frutition. Global warming, deforestation, and the burning of fossil fuels will cease with the discovery of hydrogen power and other alternate fuel resources. And for some reason fundies want to pull us back into the Dark Ages with them.
Aside from the fact that this argument seems to be contesting a point no one made, I actually agree with it.
Religion is a psychological bastion against what one cannot understand and, therefore, fears. Imagine the time period between one person's adolescence (when their societal frame of reference is loosely defined) and the point in time at which society has become something completely different from that point of reference. As technological progress accelerates, that time period will become far shorter than the human lifespan. Religion will continue to be the most popular defense mechanism evoked to cope with dissociation from a changing world.
To see this trend in action already, check out how the American Congress copes with technology's effect on copyright law enforcement.
I agree as anyone who follows science that we can't neglect the possibilty of a God as it can't be proved, but the faith of an atheist, or agnoticism, does not make for a religion of any kind; and religion may become more prevalent as modern society ostrocises more people...I guess it's nice to belong? Just don't be surprised if people aren't following yours...
...Look up what Buddhists actually believe at some point as well.
[fstdt=10976]So...this Age of Aquarius thing is supposed to kick in sometime soon, right?[/fstdt]
In 2012, supposedly (based on the Mayan calender). To some it's a level of new understanding, others the end of the world like Y2K was 7 years ago. It's based on an ancient Zodiac calender where each age is about 2000 years. Most likely thing that will happen: the same with Y2K, nothing.
An end to war?
lol, never gonna happen!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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