[from a thread stating that there is no archaeological evidence proving the Bible]
Do you have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow? No but you do have faith don't you, so whats really bothering you?
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No, I have evidence about the nature of the sun (that it rises) from my own past observation and the observation of others. I also have a decent understanding of the natural mechanisms involved in sunrise.
God have no such consistency, the observations are sketchy and their mechanisms of their behavior and existence are conveniently unfathomable.
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Super fail
Astronomy does not rely on archaeological evidence. Astronomy relies on astronomical evidence. and the belief that the sun will rise tomorrow relies on a basic knowledge of astronomy and common fucking sense.
You have to know what kind of evidence you should be looking for in order to prove something. Looking for archeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow is as retarded as looking for astronomical evidence for the validity of the Bible's history of humanity. For that you need archeological evidence, and the archeological evidence doesn't support the Bible
So all you have is a faith that your 'holy' book is historically and archaelogically true, and the fallacy of equivocation by pretending it's the same as astronomy with its physical laws of motion and suchlike?
Wow, how sad that your fairytales rest on such shaky foundations as that.
Well, even if astronomers weren´t able to calculate earth orbit and rotation and therefore make predictions about this, each of us still would have observational evidence:
We have seen the rising and setting numerous times in our life and therefore from these observations can conclude, that most probably it will rise and set tomorrow as well.
We have no such things about god...
I assume noone of us has seen miracles taking place that let us not only conclude that god is real, but also that it is the god of the bible (and not some extrabiblical divine entity, maybe from another faith).
I have no archaeological evidence, but I do have astronomy evidence.
Part of me wants to say "Yes, there is archaeological evidence, but it's on the sun. Kinda hot, so you had better go at night."
Pretty sure archaeological evidence is specifically related to human civilizations. At least that's what I learned training to be an ARCHAEOLOGIST. Never got to the chapter on sunrise evidence. Must have slept through that one.
I'm pretty sure this is the same kinda guy who thinks archaeologists dig for dinosaurs.
We can, however, extrapolate from past data and predict that, since the sun has always risen every fucking morning, the pattern is highly likely to be repeated. We also know why the sun rises, and we can reliably predict that the earth will keep spinning, since it never stopped spinning before and nothing is likely to stop it doing so now. So to say that the sun will rise tomorrow is an argument based on lots and lots of reliable evidence. That isn't the same as having 'faith' that an ancient book is really and truly the Word of God.
"Do you have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow?"
No you're right I don't have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow, but I have astronomical evidence that it will though.
Do you have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow?
The sun WILL rise tomorrow.
If not there would have been changes in the sky days or even weeks ago.
A volcano just doesn't erupt out of nowhere. Changes happen. It happens gradually.
Um....what does Archeaology have to do with the sun rising?
As for the last part,seems slightly Aztec(correct me if I'm wrong).Have faith,and blood sacrifices and the sun shall rise again tomorrow. :)
"Do you have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow?"
Um, does Stonehenge count? What about all the other artifacts that were designed to line up with the sun on certain days?
"No but you do have faith don't you,"
Well, yeah , but that's because the sun's been rising regularly for billions of years now. You know, because the Earth rotates and all that stuff.
Sundials, henges, structures being built to align with the sun at specific times of the year. All of these indicate that the sun has always been predictably constant.
This doesn't exactly prove the sun will rise tomorrow, butit proves it could always be relied upon and that there is every reason to continue to rely on it.
We do have evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow. The sun seems to rise because the earth spins, allowing its dark-side surface to continually turn to face the sun. Barring some horrendous cosmic catastrophe, the earth should continue to spin and the sun should continue to exist, based on what we have already learned ( through science) about the way heavenly bodies function.
Uh, well technically the Sun isn't going anywhere. I can guarantee that the Earth will rotate so that the light from the Sun falls upon the side I am currently situated at though.
Although I'm sure that archeological support probably exists, it is my understanding of how a heliocentrical solar system works and that the Earth isn't tidally locked. I can more or less guarantee the time that this event occurs due to the existence of technology that tracks the passage of time, perhaps you've heard of these devices, they're called clocks.
Incidentally, what does this have to do with the Bible?
"Do you have archaeological evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow? No but you do have faith don't you, so whats really bothering you?"
Astronomical facts state the sun will rise tomorrow. As it will every day for the next few billion years.
So you see, we don't need a nebulous & irrelevant concept like 'Faith'. We don't need a fairytale about an invisible sky fairy, based on a book of bullshit (hence the name 'Buybull'). We acknowledge Reality. Based on FACTS.
And that's what really bothers you fundies.
Another fundie who confuses faith with induction.
Induction relies on accumulated evidence to predict what will happen in the future. It says "if something always happened before, it will probably happen again given the same conditions." Faith is the opposite. It is believing something without any accumulated evidence.
They never actually give any good arguments, just something on the level of "your face".
I mean really, this isn't the way to be taken serious.
Confused?
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