Christians were in America long before you. We came here to live as Christians in peace. You don't belong here.
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The so-called 'Native Americans' had men among their tribes who lived as women. They were made fun of but also respected, because they did hard physical work.
I don't know what they'd be classified as today. Transsexuals, maybe? Who knows? Anyway, they were in America long before Christians - and needless to say, some of their 'manly men' - braves and elders - would have been gay as well.
We came here to live as Christians in peace.
Well, you mean after you killed off a good portion of the natives you found here.
Then you got into horrible infighting with your brothers in faith, spending years banning and throwing each other in jail.
Finally some secular law makers took away your religiously motivated powers and you *finally* got around to living as Christians in peace.
It could be said that the Siberians can lay claim to America.
For it was their distant ancestors who came to that distant land; their descendents being the Native Americans.
Why then, despite being a territory of Chile, does Rapa Nui still have it's Moai ? The Catholic church has done nothing about these ancient symbols of that civilisation's ancestor worship. Just as the Catholic church in Mexico still keeps old customs such as Dia de Muertos, there are Native American nations which - despite having Christian churches - still maintain their old traditions & languages.
Why do you still cling on to the Eostre & Winter Solstice festivals: even in your country?
Surely Paganism doesn't belong there.
I'll leave you with a thought, Mr. Anderson [/Agent Smith]: After the Protestant Parliamentarians had beaten the Catholic Royalists in the English Civil War, the former banned any celebration of Christmas. Thus they were known as the Puritans (the remaining Catholics had to keep their traditions secret. The Mince Pie that is a staple of Xmas today? Catholic. Sometimes they decorated such with the early Christian symbol of the 'Fish'. Even that was extremely dangerous in those times).
Question: Who were those early Christians in America. Where were they from originally? And why were they there...?
To whom is this addressed? Because I know a few tribes who want a word with you about the situation.
Edit to add:
I looked up the link, and I'm appalled to see it followed by an appeal to send ....BIBLES to Iraq, because apparently the great pity is not that people are forced to live as refugees and in fear of their lives, but that they might die before hearing the bible. Is there no depth to which these people will not sink?
"We came here to live as Christians in peace."
If you're referring to the Puritans, even ignoring the fact that they had nothing to do with America, what did they do as soon as they got to the New World? Burn each other at the stake for being "witches".
If you're referring to the next groups that came here as Christians... see what checkmate said.
You came there to live as bigots hating everyone not like you, killing the ones who were already living there. There were no intentions of "peace".
Who says you belong there? Native Americans came even longer before you.
You are, not uniquely, desperate to believe a narrative some religious leader you revere has told you. And your further aquisition of knowledge died on that imaginary shore. And those folks deserved what they got in the name of progress, eh? Ayn Rand thought the brutal subjugation of native Americans was justified because they did not utilize the land in a way that she thought appropriate. What a low grade moron with a overdone vocabulary syndrome. And she relied on social safety net programs before she died. Fitting. It's been years since I beat the crap out of a objectivist true believer cause he said something about letting people starve as a viable way to handle unemployment. I feel somewhat bad,(somewhat.) because this turd was an overweight socially inept goofball who wouldn't have lasted 1 1/2 weeks without his needs being met by the society around him. Anyway we had an argument and when push came to shove, he had no push, nor shove, yet was fantasizing about how he would lead a group of followers to survival when society collapsed.
"Christians were in America long before you."
And your point is?
At least the Founding Fathers were intelligent enough to see the damage that religion could do to a society and created this country as a secular nation.
You know who else was in the US before me?
Native Americans. Vikings. Buddhists. Scientists. Hindus. Coopers. Muslims. Cobblers. Jews. Barbers. Satanists. Atheists. Pagans. Slaves. Serial killers. Mexicans. All kinds of people were here before me, but I don't see you saying anything about them and their right to enforce their beliefs.
And the natives were here before you. Does that mean you don't belong here?
Seriously, how do so many people keep forgetting the Native Americans when they start saying crap like this?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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