Mark Dreher #fundie

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God wants more than lip service.

There are minimum requirements.

You must do three things in order to be normal.

1. Say an original grace prayer before eating.

2. Attend one Protestant church service per week.

3. A morning and evening prayers of thanks to God.

When your feet hit the floor in the morning.

You fall to your knees.

And as you go to bed.

You got to "do stuff".

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old comment by Xotan

God wants more than lip service.

---I agree. Lip service is nice.

There are minimum requirements.

---Why make a paragraph here?

You must do three things in order to be normal.

--- Dreher, from what you have been posting here I would not use that term in connection with you.

1. Say an original grace prayer before eating.

--- 'Original' would mean composing a new one every time.

2. Attend one Protestant church service per week.

--- You mean the church that was founded in the 1500s? Or one of those that was founded in the 19th or 20th centuries (Like Westboro). They are all so different and believe different things.... how to choose?

3. A morning and evening prayers of thanks to God.

--- A prayers????? Don't you speak English?

When your feet hit the floor in the morning.

--- This is not a sentence. It makes no sense.

You fall to your knees.

--- I don't drink that much.

And as you go to bed.

--- This is not a sentence. It makes no sense.

You got to "do stuff".

--- Not English. You mean 'you have (got) to do stuff'. But to 'stuff' is a slang ford for to 'fuck'. Is that what you mean?

old comment by Mark Dreher

whatever wrote:

"Mark, have you thought about taking your shtick on the road? Because this comes very close to being the sort of performance art people would pay to see. Replace God with a ventriloquist's dummy, or an Easy Bake Oven, or a small lap dog and you'll be raking in ticket sales in no time."

I do not need to "go on the road".

People come to me.

Right now

We are under an overwhelming attack from the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union.

And China.

Are overwhelming the entire core backbone of the main "Go Daddy cloud core server".

The big banana.

The big kahuna.

The whole thing keeps crashing.

Over and over.

Tens of thousands of websites.

Keep crashing over and over.

Not kidding.

I don't need to go anywhere.

And I do not need to "do anything".

The battle

Is already

Over.

old comment by checkmate

In that same thread Brother Mark wrote:

What happens to people who go through life not thinking about God too much?

They do not pray, they do not say grace before eating, and they do not attend church.

You know, regular.

Ah yes, "regular."

I remember one of the most involuntarily comic American television advertizements ever made. It had the rest of the world laughing: "Are you regular?"

It meant "can you shit healthy crap or are your stuffed up?"

It cast an interesting reflection on the normal American diet.

I think the two separate uses of "regular" complement each other very well. Without knowing it, Brother Mark has said that people who go to church a lot and spend their time contemplating God's will end up spewing loads of crap in periodic intervals.

Yep, they sure do.

Church goers are "regular." Are you "regular"? ;-)

old comment by Nerikull

Mark Drehler (allegedly) wrote >> and I snarked back<<

I do not need to "go on the road". >>only to rehab<<

People come to me. >>With all the right drugs<<

Right now >>Thorazine! Thorazine!<<

We are under an overwhelming attack from the Soviet Union. >>The Soviet Union?<<

The Soviet Union.>>Which no longer exists<<

And China. >>Which does exist<<

Are overwhelming the entire core backbone of the main "Go Daddy cloud core server". >>Which may or may not exist depending on who you ask<<

The big banana. >>Is really big<<

The big kahuna. >>Can really surf<<

The whole thing keeps crashing. >>404 err0rz in y0uR h34d<<

Over and over. >>et-CETera, et-CETera<<

Tens of thousands of websites.>>Can't all be wrong<<

Keep crashing over and over.>>Go up two lines<<

Not kidding. >>Not even a chuckle<<

I don't need to go anywhere. >>It's all in my head<<

And I do not need to "do anything". >>..and you can't make me<<

The battle >>for my mind<<

Is already >>around 35%<<

Over. >>So there<<

>>This has been brought to you by the Add Council. Be sure to add every day.<<

Now, see how easy it is to troll thru non-sequitur?

old comment by Mark Dreher

shadkat wrote:

@Mark Dreher

"I have nothing against sex. What I was saying is that you have innuendo in your statement, as others have so eloquently pointed out. And I think it probably wasn't entirely unintentional on your part, because you don't have a problem with sex.

In fact, I'm beginning to think that's the only thing you don't have a problem with."

Sex is normal.

It is a gift from God.

That gift is not restricted.

If you are between relationships.

Or, if you just want to "do it".

In later life.

Humans do not have enough sex.

It falls to twice a week.

It should be four times a week.

Or men will get "male pattern baldness".

And women can have their hair damaged too.

Too much testosterone.

In the blood.

Causes baldness.

In later life.

You gotta get frisky.

A bit.

More.

Frisky.

old comment by WWWWolf

> 2. Attend one Protestant church service per week.

Fun story: There was one guy, way back, who was having a huge spiritual crisis. Because no matter how many good things he was doing, no matter how many times he went to the church each week, he wasn't sure if he was doing enough to be saved.

He came to this interesting conclusion that it doesn't matter how much is "enough"; faith alone is the foundation that causes people to do good things, and hence without faith, there is no salvation. The Church was obviously going on a completely wrong track about this whole need for obedience and like.

Subsequently, he went a-nailing some theses on doors and got flamed by the Church.

Need more hints?

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Mark Dreary

"I use the name "The Vice Regent"

"God wants more than lip service."

"You fall to your knees.

And as you go to bed.

You got to "do stuff"."

Like I say, Mr. Dreary here speaks fluent Innuendo, thus he's a Cunning Linguist (especially the 'Lip Service' part of the equation).

At first, I thought our latest lolcow-in-residence was akin to "Viz Comic"'s Ivan Jelical:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Jelical

But as we've seen here, he's more like Finbarr Saunders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finbarr_Saunders

A very appropriate name you've got there: Vice Regent.

A thought:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81498&Page=5

Our previous fundie lolcow 'J.C' soon dropped off the FSTDT radar. I wonder why...?

Dennis Markuze, a.k.a. ma(short)bus ring any bells?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dennis_Markuze

http://breakingspells.net/dennis-markuze-a-k-a-dave-mabus-internet-troll-and-nutcase/

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/10/dennis_markuze_exposed.php

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/update_on_dennis_markuze.php

Dennis Markarzi. Mark Dreary. Coincidence? You decide...!

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@cryptonex

"Is it "too soon" to think this guy sounds like a religious version of Jared Loughner?"

If anything, the question that must be asked is this:

Considering how his arse gravy dried up in these threads:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81890&Page=6

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81790&Page=3

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=4

Particularly not long after comments by yours truly, including this thread; and the nature of said comments. Similarly with 'J.C' here:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81498&Page=5

Is it 'too soon' to conclude that - like 'J.C' - Mr. Dreary seems to have dropped off the FSTDT radar as well? Is it Coincidence?

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'There is no such thing as 'Coincidence' in this world . There is only 'Hitsuzen'. ('Inevitability')'

-Yuuko the Dimensional Witch, "xxxHOLiC"

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Bookoo wrote:

"And where can I find that in the Bible, Mr Sola Scriptura?"

Well Jesus said grace before each and every meal he ate, you can just emulate him.

And a morning and evening prayer, as you enter and exit the bed, is a standard practice.

And attending church is also in the bible.

It is all in there.

A bit annoying, I know.

A couple minutes a day for grace prayers.

And a couple hours per weekend at church.

But then there is the Heaven thing.

And since Hell sounds like a drag..

Why not go?

http://thenewholybible.org/step_by_step_instructions_to_rec.htm

i.e. - "Step by Step Instructions to Receive Immortality"

The Immortality Prayer.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"God wants more than lip service."

Yeah. He wants you to give him a rimjob for eternity. >:D

"There are minimum requirements."

Intel Core i7; 4 Gb RAM; 16 Gb HD space free; Windows 7.

[/geek] X3

"You must do three things in order to be normal."

1- First thing in the morning, have a shower, shave and shit. And in that order.

2- Eat a healthy balanced diet. Which includes Tea (that, for some unfathomable reason, Mark Dreary here still refuses to condemn, unlike coffee)

3- Not be a fundie VenomfangX*/Dennis 'ma(short)bus' Markarzi**-esque internet wacko kook.

4- ?????

5- PROFIT!

*- http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/VenomFangX

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/venomfangx_vs_thunderf00t.php

**- http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dennis_Markuze

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/time_to_institutionalize_denni.php

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/09/22/the-diagnosis-is-in/

The former, a proven troll and thief (Three words: Sick Kids Hospital), the latter now put away in a nut farm, so as to put him out of our misery (hopefully permanently; there are people out there with worse psychological disorders, who have a greater grasp on reality, i.e., not fundie freaks like Marky-boy here).

So, what's your excuse, Mr. Dreary...?

old comment by

"When somebody trolls so much, specially with blatant lies(Catholics, even if despised by other protestants, they're not considered Pagans, in any case), there is some more serious problem behind. Either he's a cynic or has a serious psychological problem."

Well I call Catholics pagans.

And God does too.

Why is it that no Catholic is ever given the gift of "speaking in tongues"?

It is true, I even note where they say that on their own websites:

http://thenewholybible.org/why_catholics_are_never_given_the_gift_of_speaking_in_tongues.htm

The AmericanCatholic.org even notes in their official publication that Catholics are basically never given the gift of speaking in tongues.

And they also say on their website: "and we don't know why, we want to ask God when we get the chance".

old comment by lonemind

"God wants more than lip service."
I knew he had a kinky side.

"You must do three things in order to be normal."
Just three?

"1. Say an original grace prayer before eating."
Does thanking Mother Earth for her bounty count?

"2. Attend one Protestant church service per week."
But when will I clip my toenails?

"3. A morning and evening prayers of thanks to God."
No can do.

"When your feet hit the floor in the morning. You fall to your knees."
So, God doesn't really mind lip service, as long as he gets the whole package.

"And as you go to bed. You got to "do stuff"."
So God gets his first thing in the morning, and he doesn't have to do any work, but we have to get ourselves off right before bed? Sounds like a bum deal to me, no thanks.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

So, Mr. Dreary. Those Dennis 'ma(short)bus' Markarzi/VenomFagX comparisons with you (and how are these fundie freak internet kooks any different from you, eh, certainly the way/what you type?!) preventing you from replying to me...

...or the hypocrisy of you condemning coffee but not Tea that's doing so, pray tell?

Which reminds me, I've still to yet see you reconcile your condemnation of radio, but not TV

What about DAB?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Broadcasting

In my neck of the woods (UK), in a couple of years, analogue (FM/MW/LW) will be shut down permanently, thus people will have no choice but to buy one to continue to listen to such (but one gets far more stations via DAB, however, via the national multiplexed relay system). So, as Digital isn't Analogue, I guess that's alright, eh? As you can see in the map in the above Wiki link, the USA is yet to barely acknowledge the existence of DAB, never mind accept it. Marching into the 20th Century indeed...! [/hyper-sarcasm]

old comment by

Anon-e-moose wrote:

...or the hypocrisy of you condemning coffee but not Tea that's doing so, pray tell?

Which reminds me, I've still to yet see you reconcile your condemnation of radio, but not TV

What about DAB?"

I mostly just don't like radios in cars.

A "drive around" is a good opportunity for God to whisper in your ears.

But it must be quiet, in order to hear the soft voice of God.

A radio would drown out God's voice.

As far as coffee goes, it does have some health hazards relating to cholesterol and heart disease.

And if you can avoid it, that is the best.

Tea has less caffeine, so it would have proportionately less problems.

Yours,

Mark Dreher

old comment by

TB Tabby wrote:

"So much for "grace through faith," then."

Well what evidence would you have of any faith, if you did not attend church or say grace?

These are the symptoms of faith.

How you know you got it.

God is an invisible being, and therefore easy to forget.

If you have at least a few standard rituals to get through each day, you are not likely to forget and "diss God".

During the week, all you got to do is say grace and the morning and evening prayer.

On the weekend, you have to scoot over to a Protestant church pew for a few hours of singing, smiling and laughing.

Then you go to brunch.

More smiling and laughing.

God can be so cruel.

I do not think "grace through faith" is quite enough.

If that somehow has brought you to not attending church.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Mark Dreary

"Tea has less caffeine, so it would have proportionately less problems."

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Oh, nice swerve there, sir. [/sarcasm] Argument-wise, you're a veritable Pele, dodging and manoeuvring round the issue; similarly with radios, but not TVs:

"I mostly just don't like radios in cars.

A "drive around" is a good opportunity for God to whisper in your ears.

But it must be quiet, in order to hear the soft voice of God.

A radio would drown out God's voice."

And what about at home, hmmmmm?! Radio. TV. Apart from the latter's images, no difference, aurally; still distractions. But that's beside the point (sort of):

I don't know about the law in the US, but here in the UK even hands-free/Bluetooth use of mobile phones whilst driving a car is illegal - as it's a distraction whilst driving, so thinking that one can hear the 'voice of God' whilst driving is even more grounds for you to be banned from driving, never mind being under the influence of drink/drugs; being deluded.

I wouldn't fancy your chances much in court, and you try to explain that you're concentrating more on voices in your head, than what's on the road ahead.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating: along with the 'Theory' and 'Practical' parts of the driving test, there should be a third aspect added: Psychological. Sure, you may be a better driver than Michael Schumacher or The Stig, but if you're not fully 100% sane, then you shouldn't be allowed on the road.

PROTIP: There are people with worse psychological dysfunctions out there, with a greater grasp on reality.

One deluded person = Insane.
Two or more people sharing the same delusion = Religion.

Joan of Arc 'believed' she was hearing the voice of God. These days, it's known as Schizophrenia.

Mr. Dreary = Loony. QED.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@TB Tabby

'Well what evidence would you have of any faith, if you did not attend church or say grace?'

"I would think that an all-knowing god wouldn't NEED evidence. I guess you don't think your god is all-knowing, then."

Well, Mark dreary here thinks he's Lord God Almighty himself:

http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=1

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FSTDT

And after your comment he says (emph-ass-is added):

"Is is because your posts are simply insults.

I do not have time for silly people."

Mr. Dreary - or Lord God Almighty as he's known (nope, no Dennis 'ma(short)bus' Markarzi-esque fundie internet kookery from him, nosiree! [/sarcasm]), clearly has no black pots and kettles, nay, shiny mirrors in his house, because:

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(emphasis added):

'And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence.'

-Bertrand Russell

If Lord God Almighty , a.k.a. Mark Dreary can guess what I'm holding in my hand, he can have a biscuit. If - as he claims - he's all-knowing.

'If.' [/Spartan Laconic Wit]

But then an internet kook like Mr. Dreary is in no position to determine who is silly, and who isn't:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dennis_Markuze

Mark Dreary = Dennis 'ma(short)bus' Markarzi. QED.

He's certainly in no position to think he has the right to dictate what other people should or shouldn't do.

1. I don't say 'Grace' before eating.

2. I don't go to church. Any.

3. I don't pray. Least of all to something that doesn't exist.

What are you personally going to do to make me say/act/think otherwise, Mr. Dreary? You tell me.

(and no, God will punish you in the afterlife for not doing so' doesn't count, before you ask)

Thus (emphasis added):

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business."

-Jesse Ventura (ex-politician, ex-actor, ex-wrestler, and ex-Navy SEAL)

Moral: These days, religion no longer has the right to tell people what to do. It's people who now have the right to tell religion what to do. And there's not one fucking thing that inferior fundies like Mark Dreary here can do about it, TB Tabby.

In Soviet China, God worships you.

old comment by Mark Dreher

Anon-e-moose wrote:

'Well what evidence would you have of any faith, if you did not attend church or say grace?'

"I would think that an all-knowing god wouldn't NEED evidence. I guess you don't think your god is all-knowing, then."

Well, Mark dreary here thinks he's Lord God Almighty himself:

Moral: These days, religion no longer has the right to tell people what to do. It's people who now have the right to tell religion what to do. And there's not one fucking thing that inferior fundies like Mark Dreary here can do about it, TB Tabby.

In Soviet China, God worships you."

Actually China and the Soviet Union are the source of most of our foreign hits.

And even Australia.

Unless that is all you Anonemoose.

Do you keep coming back over and over?

That will help you.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Mark Dreary

"Do you keep coming back over and over?"

Like I say, TB Tabby: Mr. Dreary has no black pots & kettles, nor shiny mirrors, in his house.

FSTDT is a site for we Atheists, Agnostics, non-fundie Christians/Muslims etc to rip the piss out of The Darndest Things that Fundies (such as Mr. Dreary here) Say.

It's not our fault, if 'ma(short)bus'-esque internet kooks such as Mr. Dreary keep coming back over and over, to FSTDT, to give us more fundie piss-ripping material.

He clearly has time for 'silly people', otherwise he'd never return here.

For what purpose does Mark 'Dennis ma(short)bus Markarzi' Dreary' keep coming back over and over to FSTDT, I wonder...?

Albert Einstein defined insanity as 'those who keep repeating the same thing over and over, expecting different results'.

Your call, Mr. Dreary. Better still, prove us wrong, and never return to FSTDT. If you keep coming back over and over, will you only prove not only we Atheists, but Einstein right...!

old comment by Mark Dreher

Anon-e-moose wrote:

"Do you keep coming back over and over?"

Like I say, TB Tabby: Mr. Dreary has no black pots & kettles, nor shiny mirrors, in his house.

FSTDT is a site for we Atheists, Agnostics, non-fundie Christians/Muslims etc to rip the piss out of The Darndest Things that Fundies (such as Mr. Dreary here) Say.

It's not our fault, if 'ma(short)bus'-esque internet kooks such as Mr. Dreary keep coming back over and over, to FSTDT, to give us more fundie piss-ripping material."

Hey, I like your "Mabus" reference.

From Nostradamus, the third anti-Christ.

I see the History Channel gets down to Australia too.

See you later moosey.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

And Mr. Dreary admits he's nothing more than a troll. You've shown your hand (and yourself in your true light).

Internet kook indeed. Not even remotely Christian. Thinks he can tell people what to do, when he has less right to think that he does.

Mr. Dreary just types crap here in FSTDT, in the hope that he's 'persuading' us to come to his way of 'thinking' (which he thinks is the right way. With emphasis on he). Like I say: Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing, expecting different results.

Unless Mr. Dreary wants to prove we Atheists - and Einstein - right, he'd better not show up on FSTDT again. Ever.

Because in doing so, you'll be admitting you're insane - also just a troll, and therefore in no position to think that you have the right to dictate to others, what they should say, do and think.

old comment by Mark Dreher

Anon-e-moose wrote:

"Unless Mr. Dreary wants to prove we Atheists - and Einstein - right, he'd better not show up on FSTDT again. Ever.

Because in doing so, you'll be admitting you're insane - also just a troll, and therefore in no position to think that you have the right to dictate to others, what they should say, do and think."

Oh Moosey, we were getting along so well.

What is your problem with the second coming?

I make a much better second coming than that Alan Richman guy you got down in Australia.

It seems he needs a lot of money. I've noticed.

Interesting.

I did not know FSTDT was all atheists.

I bet it was bad news to find out about me.

And I'm not kidding?

Oy. This is going to be a headache.

old comment by Mark Dreher

GigaGuess wrote:

"Waitwaitwait...

Aren't you guys the ones who say all you have to do is accept Jesus, and BLAMMO! Saved? Now you gotta "do stuff?" What kind of bait-and-switch con act are you tryin' to pull here?"

Well Giga that would certainly be a very easy religion, would it not?

You know, even Oprah thinks she's got religion.

Only in her religion, you don't gotta say grace, and you don't have to attend church.

It is "the religion of doing nothing".

Don't get arrested that day.

And you made it in.

You gotta do stuff.

In order to differentiate you from the slackers.

Broad is the path to destruction.

And narrow is the road to salvation.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Mr. Dreary

"So why do you want to be an atheist?

Is the obvious question."

Why are we Atheists? It's like asking you Kilroy (was here), I, and everyone else here in FSTDT 'Why do you want to use computers?' Especially when the man responsible for the development of the very thing we're now using today*, the late great Alan Turing...:

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...was himself an Atheist.

'So why does Mr. Dreary here want to use a computer?' Is the obvious counter to his own non-sequitur, in his attempt to deflect from my previous point:

"I do not have time for silly people."

Yet, later...:

"Oh Moosey, we were getting along so well."

Do not have time for 'silly' people, but also do. The hallmark of a mentally handicapped, psychologically - and thus intellectually - inferior, doublethinking, hypocritical internet kook, using the product of an Atheist (Alan Turing) to assuage his obsessional attention-seeking needs, specifically here in FSTDT.

"I'm trolling for your soul Kilroy.

Fisherman and all.

So why do you want to be an atheist?"

The obvious, nay, only answer being, as Einstein would say: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

Has he converted just one person here in FSTDT to his way of thinking, least of all your good self, Kilroy (was here)? He's failed to convince me; I did 'crack a Bible' in my youth. I read it. Cover to cover:

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It was the best education I've ever had. After all...:

'Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived'

-Isaac Asimov

It gave me an education I'll never forget (that, and the secular state education I received, which encouraged us to think for ourselves). From then, and the subsequent learning about Fundamentalist Christianity I've gained (from books, radio, films, TV documentaries, right up to discovering FSTDT a few years ago), every piece of info I've gained about such has only served to reinforce my Atheism, nay, prove it's more than infinite superiority to inferior Fundamentalist religion(s). So, going back to Mr. Dreary's non-sequitur "So why do you want to be an atheist?", the only answer to such is via another question:

'Want?!' [/Spartan Laconic Wit]

But that's by the by (but at least relevant). Back to the main point: Mr. Dreary (true to name) is not only a proven troll, he's a proven mentally handicapped attention seeker; despite his claim that "I do not have time for silly people.", but actually does - even after I gave him a number of opportunities to prove me wrong by never returning to FSTDT, he continually proves me right.

And all this, despite his accusing you of being a 'killjoy'. Doublethinking, mendacious, hypocrite, mentally handicapped fundie he is.

I challenge said mentally retarded troll to prove my accusations (and my proven factually, nay, more than justified appelation(s) I've just given him) wrong.

...but the only possible way he can, is to not reply to this comment, nor to post in FSTDT again. Ever.

...and not only will he have proven me right, should he dare answer again, he'll have completely annihilated whatever subatomic particle of credibility in anything he says/does/thinks he had left up to now by him leaving FSTDT in perpetuity, to say nothing of anything he says in future to be made fun of by this proven, nay, admitted troll being fed by we killjoys (your own word to Kilroy), Mr. Dreary

Enjoy your paradox - and the argumental corner you've now painted yourself into - Mr. Dreary the mentally handicapped & psychologically inferior. And that's not an 'insult', but a proven fact. Want to prove me wrong? Again, the method's simple: never post again in FSTDT. Ever.

So why do you want to be a fundie attention seeker? But then, that is a moot point by now.

I love the smell of arguments blasted out of the space-time continuum in the morning. Smells like... victory.

...oh, and one last thing, Kilroy (was here), as Mr. Dreary said himself he was 'trolling for your soul', and considering how the term 'Trolling' also applies to someone seeking homosexual sex...:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling&page=5# (scroll down to last definition)

Which is descended from Polari:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari

(Mainly used as a secret language/code by gay men in the UK, pre-legalisation of homosexuality in 1967. I refer you to the lexicon in said Wiki link; 'Troll' and the related word 'Trade')

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28gay%29

'As a Polari word, troll can mean to walk effeminately’, or to walk, seeking sex’.” Trolling can be used almost interchangeably with cruising and like much of Polari usage was probably meant to disguise what was being talked about'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_%28Homosexual%29

...like I say, Mr. Dreary here must not have any black pots & kettles, nor very shiny mirrors in his house, lest he realise his own double standards & hypocrisy.

...oh, and next time you're so far in your own closet (remember: you've admitted to the world that you're trolling for Kilroy's soul; no 'reading between the lines' or 'context' required - nor backing out/editing your comment by you allowed - as I've saved that page) you're in Narnia, say hello to Aslan & Tumnus for me, as you gaily & fabulously prance with them, Mr. Dreary. >:D

...and as he admitted himself, Kilroy (was here), 'I'm trolling for your soul', he clearly can't keep it in his pants, neither; Mr. Dreary fancies you:

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(*sings*):

'Dreary and Kilroy sitting in a tree

K. I. S. S. I. N. G.'

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I'm sure you'll take your inclusion in the above with the irony & good humour it was intended, Kilroy (was here), good sir. Mr. Dreary, however, has just outed himself...! >:D

We now know what he actually refers to, when he says (quote):

'You fall to your knees.

And as you go to bed.

You got to "do stuff"'

I'll bet, Mr. Queerer...!

We don't need to be Sigmund Freud to figure you out, Markiepoos.

PROTIP: Just before he condemns homosexuality, Kilroy (was here), just a little factoid for Mr. Queerer here: As well as being an Atheist, Alan Turing - the man directly responsible for the development of the very thing he's using to troll here in FSTDT - was a homosexual too.

Thus it's not the only thing about him that's queer. Gay invention, gay troll. >:D

*- For him to continue to post in what is fast becoming an utterly pointless debate in this thread, unless Mr. Dreary starts answering direct questions - and he may not want to dare try and answer mine; at least to my satisfaction, lest he proves himself - and his very beliefs - wrong, therefore proving how right, nay, infinitely superior, is Atheism; no 'want to be' required.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Kilroy (was here)

@Mr. Queerer

"too much coffee may be an issue."

Hmmmmm, not only is Mr. Queerer a mentally handicapped attention-seeker, but senility's setting in too. Especially after I'd stated here:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=4

'Coffee is Cthulhu's own diarrhoea. Tried it once in my youth, I nearly threw up. I've never touched it since. I've always preferred Tea (and not just because I'm an Englishman, neither)'

But then, not only is he mentally handicapped and senile, he thinks he's Lord God Almighty: (emphasis added)

"the divine name of "Lord Enoch, son of Shekinah", "Shekinah" is another name for God.

Yep. Delusional = insane. Two or more people sharing the same delusion = Religion.

Like I say, he doesn't have any shiny mirrors in his house, lest he sees his own double standards and hypocrisy. Least of all answer his own question 'Why are you an Atheist?'

All it'd take to answer his question is for him to look in a mirror.

...oh, and I notice he's in 'denial' mode, re. his 'trolling' ('I'm trolling for your soul', and all that jazz), especially with how that term is also defined as per those Wiki links. The first sign of being in the closet. Ergo, Mr. Queerer. QED.

His use of 'fall to your knees', 'do stuff' and 'Lip Service'. Nope, despite his protestations to the contrary, he's right there in Narnia, prancing oh so fabulously with Aslan & Tumnus, whilst carrying artworks by Tom of Finland.

He doesn't even have the right to be listened to. His credibility - and thus his right to be believed, re. anything he says - was shot to shit, when he continued replying here (thus proving his mental handicap, re. his attention seeking here), despite my many offers of opportunities in proving me wrong, by never posting in FSTDT again.

Thus he's proved me right. Mr. Queerer is a mentally handicapped, delusional, nay Alzheimer's-afflicted, retard.

...who is also in the closet. And who - if he tries to claim otherwise - hasn't the right to be believed.

But then, loonies such as Mr. Queerer here, have no credibility whatsoever.

Moral: The phrase 'It is better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt' exists for a reason. And Mr. Queerer proved that the first time he posted in FSTDT.

He knows the only possible way he can prove me wrong, otherwise.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

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'Where the world ceases to be the scene of our personal hopes and wishes, where we face it as free beings, admiring, asking and observing, there we enter the realm of art and science.'

-Albert Einstein

Now said quote, relative (pun not intended) to Markypoos' own words:

'Where the world ceases to be the scene of our personal hopes and wishes'

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=1

"The beloved one has given me* the divine name of "Lord Enoch, son of Shekinah" "The Lord God Almighty. The "Metatron" "The fact that when I came again I would* have many titles or "crowns" on my head* was predicted of by the prophets" "The Vice Regent of God"

'where we face it as free beings'

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81884&Page=1

"You must** do" "Say an original grace prayer before eating" "Attend one Protestant church service per week" "A morning and evening prayers of thanks to God" You got to** "do stuff".

'asking and observing'

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81884&Page=6

"why are you an Atheist?"***

'there we enter the realm of art and science'

http://thenewholybible.org/radios.htm

"distraction boxes (radio, TV)"

And for the final clincher (certainly in terms of his own double standards & hypocrisy):

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81890&Page=6

"A "liberal" is anyone whose views conflict with the bible.

A pro-choice is a liberal.

A "pro-homosexual" is a liberal."

Ahem:

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/

I'd rather be a left-wing Atheist (even a straight, but pro-LGBT one), than a right-wing God-fearing kiddy-diddling nonce.

And now we know why so many in the right-wing in the US are so opposed to abortion. Less children in the world for them to sexually abuse.

So you wanted an answer to the question 'why are you an Atheist?' Well, there's one reason for you. As for the other reasons, go and fucking find out for yourself, subhuman fundie moron 0-IQ mentally handicapped cuntbrain, who has less right to tell anyone what to do than one of said right-wing (and by definition, Christian, ergo hypocritical) paedophiles.

'Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man'

-Thomas Jefferson

Like I say: religion no longer has the right to tell people what to do. It's now time for people to tell religion what to do, as is our moral right as the ones superior to such - and it's deity(ies) - and exert our superiority via Democratic Rule of Law, forcing inferior religious doctrine(s) and it's adherents to bend to our will.

Thus the (at best irreligious) Peoples Republic of China. Ergo: 'In Soviet China, God worships you.'

And if such inferior fundie religions are destroyed in the process...:

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We Atheists (as well as Agnostics, Wiccans et al) are more than infinitely superior to God - certainly morally - in every way. Thus he (if he exists) must bow down and worship us. After all, was he (part of him - the Holy Ghost) not the one who impregnated Mary: a child bride...? Two words: Statutory Rape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo

I see absolutely no reference (direct or vague) in the bible condemning underage sex, neither. Lot & his daughters, for one.

Ergo our morality (via our laws) being more than infinitely superior to his. Q.E. and D., bitch. As I stated before, reading the Bible in my youth - cover to cover - was the best education I ever had. There's another answer to your question 'why are you an Atheist?' Now you do the maths as to the other reasons; Matthew 7:7, and all that jazz.

Mr. Queerer had the barefaced cheek, nay, unmitigated ignorance (and therefore proving his own inferiority) to think he even had the right to ask me 'why are you an Atheist?'. The same could be asked of you, o inferior fundie:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81790&Page=3

'There is an old expression.

Why the hell not?

I mean church.'

However, we Atheists can answer that question ourselves with one simple but fundie bullshit-annihiliating use of Spartan Laconic Wit: 'Why.'

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81790&Page=3

@QuasiRodent

'Yeah, I'm pretty sure this guy's got some form of Autism or Schizophrenia.'

"In technical terminology... he's a loon.'

-Dr. Silberman (Earl Boen) "The Terminator"

To say nothing of Alzheimer's:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81884&Page=6

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=4

@whatever

"@Mark Dreher

OK I went to your site. I see now you're doing all this for humour. Nice satire, and I think you had some of us fooled! Pardon our apparent rudeness to you, but there have been people quoted here who genuinely think they are God... or the Son/brother/fourth cousin of God. But it doesn't do any harm to make fun of thyem."

'The only way to combat ridiculous propositions is through mockery'

-Thomas Jefferson

Time to not just mock, but completely rip the piss out of Mr. Queerer, and all his mentally handicapped - and therefore inferior - fundie bullshit; and without giving him recourse to argument as his own behaviour here of late has demonstrated how mentally handicapped - and therefore intellectually inferior he really is - to be able to formulate a logical argument in the first place, thus deserving of reasoned answers to anything he says. Good peeps of FSTDT, it's point and laugh time!:

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There is an old expression: 'It is better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.'

And like I say, Markypoos proved the veracity of that expression the first time he posted here in FSTDT; which he continues to prove every time he does, despite the many opportunities offered by me to prove me wrong, by never posting here again. Ever.

Just keep proving me - and that expression - right, Mr. Queerer. Oh, and one last piece of his own hypocritical bullshit, to trap him & everything he says logically:

http://thenewholybible.org/jesus_always_called_the_gentiles_the_dogs.htm

"My Jewish friends, you may want to listen very carefully to God's own hand picked messenger, the very loyal fellow Jew named Jesus. And maybe you should always remember that he routinely called the gentiles "the dogs". (Matthew 15:26) And that he would not even preach or in anyway associate with them"

So why are you here with we dogs.if you're not not even preaching or associating with us...?!

Or why not simply admit that you - and your site - is nothing more than a parody, a la Landover Baptist, and that you're nothing more than a Poe (albeit a very dedicated one). But then, that's what essentially L. Ron Hubbard was at the beginning (late 1940s), before he started believing his own hype...

And proof that Mr. Queerer has Alzheimer's? (emphasis added):

"Don't they have fudge packers down under?

We are loaded with them.

Say, maybe we could send some down?"

Or mayhaps he skipped geography classes at school. Because as I pointed out here (emphasis added):

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81783&Page=4

'Coffee is Cthulhu's own diarrhoea. Tried it once in my youth, I nearly threw up. I've never touched it since. I've always preferred Tea (and not just because I'm an Englishman, neither)'

As opposed to an Australian.

British. Australian. There is a difference. By many thousands of miles.

But then, that proves how ignorant (especially Americentric) - and therefore inferior - certain Americans are. But they can't help it, allowing themselves to be psychologically lobotomised by the self-induced insanity called religion.

But I wouldn't know about that, living in the very secular (certainly educationally, re. our state school system), nay, Atheist UK. I guess that's another answer to his question there.

...oh, and as for:

"I thought atheists liked queers?"

The phrase 'there are exceptions to the rule' exists for a reason:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Ted_Haggard

I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.

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*- 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.'

-Bertrand Russell

**- 'The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history.'

-Bertrand Russell

***- 'What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite.'

-Bertrand Russell

'...the real reason why people accept religion has nothing to do with argumentation. They accept religion on emotional grounds.'

-Bertrand Russell

Mark Dreher #fundie forums.carm.org

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