"Big Bang" and its subset "Evolution" has the exact same problem. With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it. You may not like the answer, but it's a lot better than yours...
Where did your stuff come from? That little ol' pineapple 14.7 billion years ago - where did it come from? What about the puddle of snot that got struck by lightning and formed life? "It's always been there." Nice try, but that doesn't answer the question.
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What about that God that you say created everything? "It's always been there." Nice try, but that doesn't answer the question.
Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot.
[Nice try, but that doesn't answer the question.]
Neither does waving your hands and saying "Goddidit".
God you are fucking dense.
It is amazing that these peoepl do not even see the fallacy of their arguments because they assume that it is a given that god has always been there. The same questions just don't apply.
This redneck is correct, we really don't know the answer, lots of possibilities and god is about 1,543,291 on that list. But positing god flat out does not and can never answer the question because then you must ask where did god come from? That complexity could not just have sprung into being from total simplicity. It is an infinite regress.
I really, really, really hate these morons. Sorry.
Big Bang and evolutionary theory are unrelated.
"With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from"
And no answer as to where God came from or how He can even exist, since you don't even have evidence that spiritual beings can exist at all. Much less be omnipotent.
"Where did your stuff come from?"
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, who is eternal.
I have an answer too, courtesy of Bertrand Russell: The world isn't even 6,000 years old; it popped into existence fully formed 30 seconds ago, with all its details neatly in place, right down to our "memories" of the nonexistent past.
Using your own ignorant redneck standards for proof and argument, prove me wrong.
That'll keep him busy forever.
With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it.
With a belief in GodDitIt, you have an answer for everything: where did the Plague come from? GodDitIt. Where does lightning come from? GodDitIt. Where does polio come from? GodDitIt. Why does my former 6th grade classmate have an MBA and manage a hedge fund and I dropped out of high school and am working at WalMart? GodDitIt. Vaccines, antibiotics, lightning rods and education all just happened by luck.
They blindly follow religion and are obsessively cynical about science and logic.
Er, fundies? You've got it all wrong. It's supposed to be the other way around.
[With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it.]
[ "It's always been there." Nice try, but that doesn't answer the question.]
"God put us there" really is not the question for me, "HOW did He put us here" is what I belive that science, evolution, and the Big Bang tells us.
by the way; The Big Bang, where did it come from
from the last universe when it was reduced to a singularity, like ours will be in time.
And by the way; What is an all-powerful entity doing existing in nothing?
Like Galactus
I see no problem in believing in God, but I doubt he interacted in that way with the universe. I believe though, there would have to be some sort of intelligence beyond our cognition to come up with the universal laws to allow evolution and gravity to happen from the forces generated in the expansion of the universe.
"Big Bang" and its subset "Evolution"...
Evolution is not a subset of the Big Bang theory. The start of the universe falls into the categories of cosmology and high energy physics. Evolution is covered by the discipline of biology.
With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it.
Your answer in no way accounts for "where stuff came from". It "answers" the question of who , not where and certainly not how .
"That little ol' pineapple 14.7 billion years ago - where did it come from?"
"The always fecund pineapple that is, and shall always be, has no rivals, permeates space time with its own flavor of sauce, and calls us all to approach it. What shall you be in life? Are you a Dole, bursting with spontaneity and a quiet dignity? Are you Del Monte, full of zest for life and charity for the needy? Beware the way of the Canned Maui, for those who use the evil tools of the apothecary cannot fail to be without all morals, and shall be thrown to the mealybugs in due time, if they do not repent of their cunning."
And when you connected Big Bang and evolution, we understood that you have a problem with the way science works. And by the way, with the argument of "I believe in God because is more convenient for me", you're not going to convert people.
can someone please tell me why these fundies seem to forget that one of the people that proposed the big bang theory was a clergyman?
of course, if they did, they would just say that that particular denomination doesnt count or something.
Guess many have said it already but; Where did God come from?
Big Bang - cosmology
With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it.
Why? How? What processes did he use to make life? Why does he not continue to create life? Were there other universes he made? Could he make another one? If so, why is he not? Why does he only have life on this planet? Seems pretty wasteful, really.
THIS is why GODDIDIT is insufficient. On the surface, it answers the question, but as you look at it, it just raises more questions.
and 'goddidit' does answer questions?
oh and also, uncertainity is not a weak position. contrary to what you 'all knowing' fundies might think.
Nice, he didn't even get through the first sentence without failing spectacularly. Evolution doesn't have jack shit to do with the Big Bang.
And why the fuck isn't "I/we don't know" a valid answer to the question of "where the stuff came from"? I don't have to know where something came from to know it's there.
“"Big Bang" and its subset "Evolution"”
“has the exact same problem. With a belief in God, we at least have an answer for where the stuff came from - God created it.”
“You may not like the answer, but it's a lot better than yours...”
“Where did your stuff come from?”
“That little ol' pineapple 14.7 billion years ago - where did it come from? What about the puddle of snot that got struck by lightning and formed life?”
“ "It's always been there." Nice try, but that doesn't answer the question.”
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