After much soul-searching and many botched ideas, I finally told Nathan that I realized he was a liar, even though I couldn’t catch him red-handed in his lies. I told him that God hated lying, that I hated it, that I had failed him, and that it was very important that he not continue to be a liar. I informed him that everyday for the next seven days, I was going to give him 10 licks at noon. He was to bring me the switch and I would spank him for being a liar. So everyday, he would bring me the switch at noon. If he failed to provide the switch at noon, he got additional licks. He was timely with the switch. It forced him to spend his mornings considering which branch to cut from the willow tree and how long he had left before the hour of chastisement was at hand.
When the clock struck twelve, I very calmly, and without pity, reminded him, “You are a liar, and lying is an ugly, hateful thing. In order that your soul shall be spared, I’m going to whip you.” That was all I said, no praying, no sermons, no “you break my heart” appeals. I would cause him to bend over on the couch, and I would give him the 10 licks.
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These people make me want to call Child Services.
"I can't prove you're lying, but I assume you are anyway, so you're getting punished disproportionately for something you might not have even done."
Feel the love. *gag*
This evil bitch need to survive a firey car wreck with a severed spine and massive burn scaring.
she needs to live the rest of her looonnngggg life in a wheelchair, with a hidiously disfigured face.
She nees to die alone in a dark room with nobody to hold her hand through the final moments.
And she needs to be disposed with the medical wastes.
Ah, yes, "How to make a wife beater and psychopathic murderer in one easy lesson.
Presented by Debbi Pearl.
I only hope your husband forces you to practice biblical submission, and beats the living hell out of you when you "disobey" him.
Ah, the guilty until proven innocent approach. Combined with cruel and unusual punishment approach, that makes you a vile, contemptuous woman.
Just read the rest of the post: "Today he is a man of "integrity" that has a wife and two beautiful kids, who, I am sure won't be liars!"
Wonder how many times "Daddy" has beaten his kids?
" After much soul-searching and many botched ideas, I finally told Nathan that I realized he was a liar, even though I couldn’t catch him red-handed in his lies."
That was your next botched idea.
Reminds me of my mother... whenever one of us kids did something wrong and tried to lie our way out of it, she'd line us up and whack each of us round the head...
That way, she got the one who was lying, and the others got a whack for anything they got away with... which we never did because she'd whack us all if any one of us did something.
Taught us all that we might as well lie because telling the truth got us whacked anyway, and the lies could be rather amusing.
Couldn't you just use the same switch everyday? I mean, its not like switches grow on trees...or wait. I guess they do. It does seem like an unfair punitive measure for your willow trees though, who are probably not liars.
This reminds me of the "discipline" my parents used. Though when punishing me for things I didn't even do, it was just one unnecessarily harsh beating, not one every day for a week. o_o
It would serve her right if he abandons this vile beast in her old age (and if she gets hit by a bus going no less than 50 mph).
I told him that God hated lying, that I hated it,that I had failed him ...
That was the part that really got me. Brutalizing a child because of one's own failings?
The logical extension of this woman's reasoning is that she must now be physically punished, proportional to her size, by someone proportionally stronger than herself.
@El Guapo: Yes it would, but keep in mind two things:
1)willow branches dry out very quickly and become extremely brittle. So a switch more than a couple of days old would no longer be usable for its intended purpose.
2) The ritual itself--forcing him to select the right switch, the instrument of his punishment--was an important part of his punishment. And given how formal and offhand this is, I'd daresay that, not only did this likely happen many times, her throwaway crack about his family and how his kids won't be liars suggests that he does the same thing.
That was the part that really got me. Brutalizing a child because of one's own failings?
Pretty well explains the Old Testament, doesn't it?
After much soul-searching and many botched ideas, I finally told Nathan that I realized he was a liar, even though I couldn’t catch him red-handed in his lies.
Just admit it - you're beating him for your own pleasure. Most likely you are addicted to the feelings of authority and self-righteousness you get from "doing god's work", and you're no longer content waiting until you have an actual excuse for it, so you resort to making them up.
So, telling a lie deserves so much stupid ritual seven days?, if I were your boy I would not provide you with the lick. Moreover, I would sit down until social services come. See what you tell them.
And was this on the naked buttocks?
Had he bathed first? Did the licks taste nice?
Do you know that you are a sadistic pervert who should be reported to the police for assault?
Oh fuck off. You aren't even sure that he's done anything! Why don't you just skip the "even though I couldn't catch him red-handed" and come out and say "I beat my child daily for no reason"?
What the hell kind of message are you trying to communicate anyway? There's no association between the punishment and the crime because the punishment doesn't occur at the time the crime was committed. All you're teaching him is to hate you and to hate twelve noon. I mean, you're even forcing him to bring you his own instrument of punishment. What the hell is that supposed to teach? It's just needless torment... kind of like forcing Jesus to carry his own cross.
Not only are you unspeakably evil, but you're totally incompetent.
Wow, this is, like, Darth-Vader-evil. Bond-antagonist-evil. I didn't fully realise until reading the comments, but this is I-let-you-dig-your-own-grave-evil. Satanic. Debbi, you are doing great work. But I am sure, you'd never guess for who.
This isn't the same one who wrote the bizarrely incestuous bit about whipping her 17-year-old, is it?
Makes me think of that cartoon of Anna Nicole Smith "bonding" with her son...
I hate this shit. I bookmarked the Pearls' "To train up a child" site just so I can remember it. I want to remember it so I can ask anybody that watches my daughter if they subscribe to this form of torture and abuse. If they say they do, I will calmly walk out (with my daughter), informing them as I go that I will happily beat the everloving fuck out of them if they ever lay a hand on my little girl. (And if I see them do it to anyone else, as well).
That woman needs to be raped by a branding iron.
" finally told Nathan that I realized he was a liar, even though I couldn’t catch him red-handed in his lies"
So you punish someone for something that you only think that he did! If you can't prove that he was lying, then he almost certainly was not lying. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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