Too true. I mean, take my niece for instance. She loves to play JRPG's & chick-fighters on my TV on the floor, usually only when it's just the two of us and when she's wearing a micro-skirt and tight panties or spats. I admire the view, she enjoys being naughty in a safe environment, we're both creepy and voyeuristic as heck and I'm not ashamed to admit that.
Hey, Pervy Uncle Atala? What do you think I should play, Grandia II or Neptunia 2?
...whimper...
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Or maybe she thinks that her uncle is a normal human being, a relative who can be trusted.
You disgusting FUCK!
Someone should forward this to his brother/sister.
As bad as this sounds, is there any reason to believe that the niece in question is a minor? If she is underage, then I agree this is something the parents/authorities should be made aware of. But if not, then it falls under the "whatever consenting adults do is one of my business".
Wow.
Rifle?
Social services?
For LOOKING? (read: not actually touching or entering her personal space in any way)
Wishing harsh consequences on him for what goes on inside his head? I see.
Someone sure sounds fundie, and it ain't Uncle Atala.
It really depends if she's a minor. If so, social services, yes, but rifle and steamroller are probably overkill. If she's an adult, what she does with her creepy uncle atala in private is her business.
In any case, sex crimes aren't intrinsically fundie, and there's no evidence he's motivated by anything but weak will and his own id.
The post has been deleted.
His signature contains the following,
'If a game's not good enough for a physical release, then it's not good enough for me.'
@ All the people saying this shouldn't be here.
I will grant that this doesn't fall neatly into a category of fundementalism but it is still quite disturbing. Some of you have said "if he's only looking what's the harm?" Or "consenting adults, what's the problem?"
Two things: First no matter if his niece is 12 or 20 she's still his niece and perving on her is a gross violation of familial trust. If you find nothing wrong with family members peeping on each other for sexual gratification you may need help.
Second: Virtually every scumbag claims the person they're ogling is egging them on. The odds of her even being aware that her uncle is far less interested in the panty shots on the TV screen than elsewhere in the room are actually pretty low.
@ recovering theist
Oh forgive me. Before I retired, I was a teacher, and it was absolutely drilled into our heads that if we even suspected child abuse (even if it was "maintaining a hyper-sexualized atmosphere in the home" like this buttwad is doing), we were to call child protective service. Not sit around pondering if the response was too much or perhaps how far this butthead would go tonight. Not "gee, I wonder how many times he can play his little peeking game before the little girl is permanently damaged." Now, you called right now
And as for my remark about the rifle, what can I say? I was a soldier before I was a teacher, and I have strong feelings about child protection.
@Passerby
"no matter if his niece is 12 or 20 she's still his niece and perving on her is a gross violation of familial trust. If you find nothing wrong with family members peeping on each other for sexual gratification you may need help."
I never said that I did not find it "creepy" or "icky" or that there was "nothing wrong". I simply pointed out that if everyone involved is old enough, I have no business sticking my nose into it, because it's a personal matter between the two of them and their family. We don't get to make laws based on what I, you, or a majority of people find distasteful. We make laws based on what causes harm. If we were to start making laws based on what the majority doesn't like, then we would be allowing the majority to ban homosexuality, bisexuality, atheism, and a lot of other behaviors. Isn't that the very reason we have a lot of the quotes that end up here?
If she is underage, it is another matter. However, nothing in the presented quote indicates that she is a minor, and anyone calling for action is doing so without sufficient evidence . Most of the time, the commenters here are the ones calling for a rational basis. In this case, it simply does not exist.
not fundie, just paedophillic.
If it was about bashing Neptunia becuae of the cute girls being akin to their god in terms of power and promoting "alternate religions", "satanism" and or "new media" THEN it would be fundie.
Regardless I think that Atalalama due for a visit from cops investigators and maybe hunters looking to Catch a Predator.
@ Dr. Razark
Age is immaterial to breach of a position of trust. It's why a teacher can't bang their students even in college or a doctor can't enter a relationship with a patient until they are no longer in such a position and even though a doctor may regularly see their patients in the buff attempts to gratify themselves sexually such as taping or intentionally staging stripdowns, peeping in the bathrooms, or simply trying to sneak a peek outside of strict medical context is a serious offense. The law and professional boards of ethics are unforgiving when this trust is violated and rightfully so.
For family there is no release from such a position. You can argue that there would be no such problem between people who didn't know they were related when they started their relationship and I would concede the point despite reservations but that is clearly not the case for Uncle Badtouch here.
@Passerby
Every family is different. There are general standards of ethics that do apply in your other examples, but from the information presented here, we cannot say anything about the structure of this family, or if such a "position of trust" exists. In such a case, it remains a purely personal matter within the family. I can see that argument being made if this was between a parent and child, or between and obviously older relative and a younger relative. Until further information is known, there simply isn't any reason to automatically assume this is a similar situation.
Gotta second Dr. Razark. The analogy doesn't quite fit. The restrictions on college professors not sleeping with students or bosses with employees are there because they undermine the presumption of merit-based grades or promotions/bonuses.
It's as much for the assurance of the students/employees that DON'T sleep with those who have the power to further or destroy their careers (would that B have been an A if I had been a little "nicer" to the professor they way my cohort was?).
This restriction is also as much about power as about trust. Consent is called into question when one person has power over the future livelihood of the other. (However, it should be noted that such breaches of trust by bosses and professors are not treated as criminal offenses if both are adults at the time and there is verbal consent, armed forces excepted.)
A 40 year old holds no such power over his 20 year old niece (provided she doesn't work for him or study under him). Again-- what consenting adults do in private is their business alone, ickiness or personal revulsion is irrelevant. Either you mean it or it's just a catchy banner slogan.
@ Dr. Razark
If you believe such a thing should be so loosely defined within a family that would require an extreme overhaul of all laws relating to wills, estates, medical emergencies, power of attorney, and anything else where the term 'next of kin' turns up. There are many situations where your closest known living relative is called upon to act as your agent and it is legally presumed that they do so with your authority and interests in mind. They have power over your estate, your physical wellbeing, and even your life. If that's not a position of legal trust what is? Who do you propose shall be given such vast influence over your life in place of your family?
Similarly, members of families are legally barred from being in positions where they can abuse power to aid their kin such as being a judge presiding over the trial of a distant cousin. The law presumes familial loyalties no matter how distant the relationship precisely because the consequences for abuse are so dire.
I have heard of no society where immediate family is not considered in such trust either socially or legally. To remove that presumption is to leave an insurmountable vaccuum in the legal system and render vulnerable countless people easily pressured by invoking the importance of family.
This isn't fundie, this is just some guy pretending to copy his favourite H-manga.
Although really, if the niece is above the age of consent, good on both of them!
Well, this definitely seems pretty creepy...
(Also, the answer is Grandia II)
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