Anyway, I just got off the phone with my son's biology teacher. He said that he believes in macroevolution although he didn't mean to teach it to the students as absolute fact. I asked him if he was a Christian. He said he was. I asked him how he could believe in a theory that denies the word of God. He said that he didn't think macroevolution denied the word of God because "Genesis 1 is not written as a history." I told him he needed to stop denying the word of God to fit his scientific theories. He kept insisting that they were compatible. No matter what I said, he denied that they were incompatible. It was like arguing with a brick wall.
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Anyway, I just got off the phone with my son's biology teacher. He said that he believes in the six-leggedness of insects although he didn't mean to teach it to the students as absolute fact. I asked him if he was a Christian. He said he was. I asked him how he could believe in a theory that denies the word of God. He said that he didn't think six-leggedness denied the word of God because "Leviticus is not written as a biology textbook." I told him he needed to stop denying the word of God to fit his scientific theories. He kept insisting that they were compatible. No matter what I said, he denied that they were incompatible. It was like arguing with a brick wall.
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Oh, my poor irony meter...
I'll bet he thought you were several shades thicker than a brick wall. You don't need to be atheist to believe in evolution, you know.
Christ, let the man do his job. He's right; you can be a Christian and believe in evolution, you don't have to have a literal interpretation of Genesis, it's obviously an allegorical story that, when taken literally, becomes absurd.
It was like arguing with a brick wall.
Please ignore the small mushroom cloud on the east coast of the US, that was my irony meter detonating.
It was like arguing with a brick wall.
About like talking to you, only the brick wall has several IQ points' advantage.
The teacher is wrong. If there's no Adam and Eve, no original sin, there's no need for Jesus. If evolution is true, which it is, the whole of Christianity collapses.
Anyway, I just got off the phone with my son's biology teacher. He said that he believes in macroevolution although he didn't mean to teach it to the students as absolute fact. I asked him if he was an Aborigine. He said he was. I asked him how he could believe in a theory that denies the spirits of Dreamtime. He said that he didn't think macroevolution denied the spirits of Dreamtime because "Dreamtime is not written as a history." I told him he needed to stop denying the spirits of Dreamtime to fit his scientific theories. He kept insisting that they were compatible. No matter what I said, he denied that they were incompatible. It was like arguing with a brick wall.
Dream on.
A theory is a hypothesis supported by so many facts that it becomes a fact in and of itself. Tiktaalik is a fact. Archeopteryx is a fact. Homo Erectus is a fact. The entire fossil record and all existing organisms are facts and all of them provide evidence for evolution.
BTW. If you can't find a school that will keep your children as ignorant as you? You better home "school" them.
Um.. the "word of god" is incompatible with scientific theories, history, geography, erc. Teacher wins.
Somebody should tell those guys the Catholic Church actually accepts evolution (at least partly), and that it is not considered as contrary to their god's word per se.
Ah, well, they might argue the Catholic Church isn't Christian anyway...
It was like arguing with a brick wall
Or a Roman Catholic, or a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, or ...
I think the absolute worst part about this, is how OND demands that we take Genisis 1 literally, but will say that the whole eating shellfish or god killing millions of people is metaphorical and requires interpretation.
You were the brick wall in this scenario, stupid.
If Genesis 1 is written as history, then Genesis 2 must be a forgery, and the other way around, as they contradict each other.
Plus, neither says anything about diversification and survival, which is what evolution is all about.
As it's science, there are no absolute facts. The closest things to absolute facts in science are scientific theories. It was hardly the teacher's own scientific theories in this case, or your son has a VERY gifted and highly acclaimed teacher.
I'm a Christian who believes in evolution. There's no reason why they can't coexist. Not everything in the Bible needs to be interpreted as perfect, literal fact, and I think that the values it teaches are more important. But forget it; arguing with people like you is like arguing with a brick wall.
@H
I know this is a bit late but... why do we need the Bible to be taken literally throughout to believe in a savior? The world's still pretty shitty either way, ain't it? Aside from the eternity part (maybe it can be a couple hundred years or something instead so we can see how things work out for the rest of the world after we go, but not have the burden or horrors of never-ending life), wouldn't it be great if we could go to a paradise to make up for the shit we have to deal with here?
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