[Defending an ideology called "Quiverfull," which advocates having as many children as possible and home-schooling them to build up God's army]
Pastor Heneghan of Gospel Community Church sees the issue of population growth in more biblical terms, specifically those taken from Genesis and Revelation. "Some people think that what I'm doing--having eleven children--is wrong. I don't really get into that much. The Bible says 'be fruitful and multiply.' That's my belief system. They don't believe in God, so they think we have to conserve what we have. But in my belief system, He's going to give us a new earth." Overpopulation isn't a problem in a universe where God promises a clean global slate.
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this is the scariest thing i have ever read.good care of it?
Yeesh! First, no morality, just doing things one way so the sky daddy won't slap them, and now relyng on the same entity to put everything back after they wreck it.
These are really people with no value whatsoever aren't they?
Well, when I was a kid, I'd make a mess of my room time and again. And when it got to the breaking point, who do you think had to clean it all up? Mommy and daddy? Guess again.
Well, God will promise you whatever, but if children have been abandoned because they are "too many", why is he going to make exceptions now?
If this doesn't show why fundamentalism is dangerous, I don't know what will. "We can fuck up the planet all we want and not fear the consequences, because jesus will come back and make it better!" Good fucking grief...
Overpopulation isn't a problem in a universe where God promises a clean global slate.
I don't really think having as many children as you can support is wrong. I couldn't support 11 children, but if you can, more power to you.
Yes, but it is a problem in the real world, where fucktards like you overcrowd the gene pool with whatever mutations occured to make you such a goddamn idiot.
"Pastor Heneghan of Gospel Community Church sees the issue of population growth in more biblical terms, specifically those taken from Genesis and Revelation. "Some people think that what I'm doing--having eleven children--is wrong."Yes, I think it's wrong.
"I don't really get into that much."
Translation: "Deep thinking hurts my head."
"The Bible says 'be fruitful and multiply.' That's my belief system."
First, using the fairy tales of ancient, desert tribemen as the basis of your belief system is stupid.
Second, "be fruitful and multiply" has been done. The human race has been fruitful and multiplied enough.
"They don't believe in God, so they think we have to conserve what we have. But in my belief system, He's going to give us a new earth."
So, we should depend on the sky fairy of the ancient desert bumpkins to come and save the day by supplying us with a replacement earth? That doesn't seem a very sound plan.
"Overpopulation isn't a problem in a universe where God promises a clean global slate."
Uh huh, except that all the evidence says otherwise.
You're an idiot.
1) I suppose you don't realize that having that many children is in a sense, child abuse. I have a feeling you can't really care for them well, so it is wrong.
That's a good philosophy for lemmings. You're top of the food chain - fucking stop it! - Julian
Berny said,
You know, we could beat them at their own game with a variant of Pascal's wager on this, since they so often insist on using it. Better to conserve what you've got and then get given a new one than to squander it and get no more.
Does it really need to say, "Be fruitful, but don't be a total moron"?
Given that there's zero evidence of your God and zero evidence of this "clean slate" you speak of, if it's all the same to you I'd rather not find out the hard way that we don't, in fact, have room for this many people.
Berny - nope, not at all.
I'd love to see that pastor get a taste of his own medecine, locked in a virtual reality simulation where he is the wife of a fundie asshole like himself who keeps him barefoot and pregnant. I wonder how he'd like it, taking care of the house and homeschooling more brats that he can keep clothed and fed while the strain of constant pregnancy takes its toll on his health. Fortunately for him, such technology isn't available yet (and such an use would be considered torture, I suppose).
As I recall, the Bible says, "Be fruitful and multiply until you have filled the earth." At 6 billion plus, I think it's full.
Well, let's see how that works:
Tempus: if there was to be a silver lining to that depressing history/reality, it's that the human race somehow dragged itself out of its religion-fueled quagmire.
People like this terrify me. Not only do they advocate overpopulation, not as a possibility, but actively pursuing it, and not only do they ignore conservation, they are intent on completely raping the planet, until it's a barren wasteland. I'm sorry, I don't know if Global Warming is all it's hyped up to be. I don't know how much danger the environment is in. But personally, as far as I can see, what we have is what we get. Better to treat it with care, than drive it into the ground.
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