In short, if there is no hell, then Jesus lied. Jesus is God. God cannot lie. Jesus cannot lie. Hell exists. Enough said.
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Bull shite!
According to your own Holey Babble, one of the first things that god supposedly said to a human was a lie:
Gen. 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die .
That day lasted several decades, eh?
Nope, sorry Wyatt- what has been translated as "Hell" in many versions of the Bible didn't really mean "Hell" as you think of it at all. Let alone an eternal Hell. Yet another example of that "traditions of man" thing that you fundies love so much yet claim to reject.
Please see here for more info- though this site is far from the only source, and there's tons of info one can find about extra-Biblical beliefs becoming "Christian" canon if one wants to look. Which, of course, fundies don't. They're so comfy in their prejudice and their "WE'RE the special ones!" clique. http://www.what-the-hell-is-hell.com
Nekhbet ahhh! fundie alert!
@Nekhbet: no hell is listening to people like you spew biblical bile all day long in our ears in hopes we see a god who, to most of us, isn't there
Wee! It's like riding on a souped up ferris wheel!
Oh, P.S. God lied right in Genesis about the tree and what would happen if its fruit was eaten, just so you know.
In short, if there is no hell, then Jesus lied.
Jesus is God.
God cannot lie.
Jesus cannot lie.
Hell exists.
Enough said.
In short, if there is no hell, then Jesus lied.
Debatable, but I'll give you that
Jesus is God.
Unproved assertion
God cannot lie.
God is omnipotent, he can lie if he wants to. He did, actually
Jesus cannot lie.
You came to this conclusion based on faulty premises, so: wrong.
Hell exists
See above.
Jesus didn't lie, his "words" were written down by Paul and by other guys that we know nothing about.
Have you ever even read your own bible? Because outside of the threats of being sent there by disobeying sex rules and working on the wrong days, there isn't too much there (discounting revelations since that is what is supposed to happen in the future). You concept of a fire-breathing-red devil with horns, pointy tail and a pitchfork comes mainly from artists and writers such as Dante. Much art was inspired by his made-up and fanciful idea of hell. In the center of hell is was supposed to be freezing cold, just as the Norse version of Hell which they called 'Hel' was like. There, the warriors who died of anything other than a weapon on the battlefield would be frozen in a lake of perpetual ice.
Then there is the other version of hell which is supposed to be the hell of being outside of god's love and influence. I can safely say that will be no different than he influences or loves me right now. So big whoop.
The original version of hell was more like waiting in line at the DMV while someone looked over your driving record. The jewish version of religion isn't nearly as cruel and bloodthirsty as you, your bible, your god and your jesus.
And jesus lied when he told the disciples that he wasn't going somewhere and then turned around and went anyway, and your god tells lies by making other people and "spirits" do it for him. It's lying by proxy but it's still lying.
Missed a few possibilities there:
1. Jesus never existed.
Myself, I'd go with 1 or 2.
"In short, if there is no Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory, then the Flying Spaghetti Monster lied. The FSM is God. God cannot lie. The FSM cannot lie. The Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory exist. Enough said."
Same logic, no?
"In short, if there is no hell, then Jesus lied."
yep, that's right.
"Jesus is God."
prove it. in order to prove that "jesus is god" you have to prove that a) jesus existed, b) god exists, and c) that they are the same entity. if you can't do that then your claim has no merit.
"God cannot lie. Jesus cannot lie."
see above. PROVE IT. after proving that god and jesus exist, you have to prove that they can't lie.
"Hell exists. Enough said."
HOLY CIRCULAR LOGIC, BATMAN!!
God did not lie in Genesis. When He says "in that day", He meant a period of time, not that 24 hour period. What everyone thinks of as Hell is the lake of fire where all the lost souls will be in eternal suffering. It is real, and God does not lie.
Assuming that Jesus is God, God is in fact infallible and totally honest [Abraham and Ishmael...?], and furthermore, that either of them even exist.
If there is no teapot, then the FSM lied. The FSM cannot lie. The teapot exists.
Err...
The Lake of Fire(tm) is, as the Bible says, for Satan and his minions. It says nothing about the lost souls going there.
Hell is simply being apart from God.
Speaking from personal beliefs, of course.
Don't quote me ;_;
Hey that circular reasoning sure sounds like fun. Let me try:
"In short, if Wyatt isn't just a quibbling retard who continues to wear diapers and live in his parents' basement, then Richard Dawkins lied. Richard Dawkins is Zeus. Zeus cannot lie. Richard Dawkins cannot lie. Wyatt is just a quibbling retard who continues to wear diapers and live in his parents' basement. Enough Said."
(ok, I'll admit that's just not fair. I mean we have far better reasons to believe that Wyatt is just a quibbling retard who continues to wear diapers and live in his parents' basement than this little game of spin the wheel of idiocy, but still...)
"In short, if there is no hell, then Jesus lied. Jesus is God. God cannot lie. Jesus cannot lie. Hell exists. Enough said."
Okay. Prove this 'Hell' exists. Now. Better have a "Sliders"-style dimensional portal generator handy, because you've got a lot of proving to do.
...what's that, Wyatt? You can't ? Well then. No proof, no 'Hell'. Which means your 'Jesus' lied. Thus he can lie. Therefore 'God' (as Jesus is also him) is a contradiction to himself, ergo 'God' doesn't exist.
QED.
Everything you 'believe' is a lie , Wyatt, and everyone on Ruptured Retards (no physical proof from you, therefore no acceptance by we Atheists). 'Nuff said.
“God cannot lie.”
Confused?
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