Kirk is correct:
If evolution made me....I must change through the years.
I didn't evolve, I grew.
I didn't change from a fish to a human being.
Therefore there is No genetic mutations within me and never will be.
I will always remain a human being, even in eternity. I won't become an angel either. I will remain a human being.
I may receive an imperishable body and become immortal after I leave this year, but I will always be a human being, adopted by God, because I received Jesus Christ as my Savior.
Sandy
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Mutation occurs at every single generation in a sexually reproducing species.
Do you have the same genetic code as your mother? No. Mutation has occurred, as your genes are a combination of mother and father. Creating an entirely unique genetic code.
Mutation is a change in the DNA of an organism, it can be as simple as a single base pair, it doesn't mean sprouting an extra arm.
And name one person other than yourself who thinks humans are born as fish. Although, ironically, that's not far off. Most vertebrates are astonishingly similar in the very early stages of development in the womb. Human and manta ray foetuses look exactly the same within the first stages. But then the various primitive parts start to develop into their different functions, with one fold of the manta becoming the gills, and the corresponding on the human embryo becoming the thorax. One fold changes to perform the SAME FUNCTION, the jaw. Adding to the evidence we evolved from a common ancestor. Which we know all the vertebrates did. (And all life on earth if you go back far enough)
But as for being born a fish and turning human? You REALLY think the ENTIRE BIOLOGICAL SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY believes such a thing as stupid as humans are born as fish?
Actually, you did change from a fish to a human. Read any standard text on embryology.
You contain many mutations, just none that are resultant.
If you had just grown, you would still have gills and no legs.
The rest of this is like shooting fish in a barrel.
@Sangfroid
"Actually, you did change from a fish to a human. Read any standard text on embryology."
You stole what I said! A curse be laid upon your soul! Yarrrrrrrr!!!!
"Most vertebrates are astonishingly similar in the very early stages of development in the womb. Human and manta ray foetuses look exactly the same within the first stages. But then the various primitive parts start to develop into their different functions, with one fold of the manta becoming the gills, and the corresponding on the human embryo becoming the thorax."
@Creativerealms
When a creationist understands evolution, they are no longer a creationist.
It requires an intelligence a creationist cannot achieve.
It's also notable that another creationist strawman is that nothing can become bigger, stronger or more complex and complicated over time,,,
despite the fact we all start from simpler forms and grow into larger, smarter and more capable animals. Our very lifespan is about change and growth and eventual wear.
"I didn't change from a fish to a human being."
That's like saying "I have never gone past a construction site seeing the construction workers digging the foundations at 8 AM and gone past it again the same day at 8 PM to see a finished skyscraper. So skyscrapers can't possibly have been built naturally!"
@creativerealms:
One of these days there will be a creationist who actually understands evolution. Today is not that day.
Nice one, Aragorn!
Just last week I wondered: If you would take an honest creationist*, sit him down and explain to him the basic idea of the ToE, but without using the words he was trained to disagree with on principle, could you get him or her to accept it?
*i.e. not one of the deliberate liars like Ham, Hovind, Cameron or Comfort.
There are dozens of genetic mutations which occur within prenatal development. You fail.
Evolution does not require you to change species. Evolution effects populations over time, not individuals. Learn what a theory is before your critique it.
That is so *sob* stupid.
Why will these people not read the numerous explanations others have taken the time to write out again and again...and again and again...and again - so many times
At this point, anti-evolutionists are being willfully stupid. So stupid. There is simply no excuse
I didn't change from a fish to a human being.
Therefore there is No genetic mutations within me and never will be.
Forget the gross misunderstanding of the Theory of Evolution, this bit of "logic" shows the level of reasoning we're dealing with here. Life doesn't pull a complete transformation therefore no mutations of any kind exist. And we wonder why people reject ToE despite the overwhelming evidence.
I didn't change from a fish to a human being.
On the other hand, you do still have the same grasp of evolution as a fish.
She lost me at Kirk Cameron is correct.
As if that's EVER going to be a thing.
She may have a point though as she appears to have made the leap from human to vegetable. (Obviously I don't wish to offend any in the vegetable community, I'm sure there are carrots out there who could outwit this moron.)
Are you the Renaissance Woman of fundie-ism? You're just going to go around and try to be as fucking stupid about every topic you can find?
Also, this;
"become immortal after I leave this year"
Please sooner rather than later.
Your conditioning has, for whatever reason, led you on to the path of gullibility and silliness, perhaps through no fault of your own. That particular toxic pathway is now everything to you, possibly bringing you joy and comfort, but to the people of reality and sanity it seems as though it has made you mentally ill.
Poor Sandy, all alone on that different planet to the rest of us.
That must be why she thinks that the phenomenon of shifting allele frequencies in a population somehow applies to her individually.
"If evolution made me....I must change through the years."
Completely false, as evolution doesn't operate to cause changes in an individual living organism during a single generation but instead to select for changes occuring within populations of living organisms over multiple generations.
Therefore there is No genetic mutations within me and never will be.
Actually, you hold around 150 mutations.
The story does not go "One Fish, Two People", sir. Maybe you might want to take a basic biology class.... once you learn to read, that is.
Anyone who says Kirk is correct has to buy Spock a roll of tums. Oh, Cameron? Then buy them for Leonard Nimoy.
So you didn't turn from a fish to a person. Do you still dance with the gru grux king?
"I didn't evolve, I grew."
Like religion in general?
"I didn't change from a fish to a human being."
That is not how evolution works and you know it.
Hey, Kirk,
If Jesus Christ is your savior, how are you doing of that "Sell all you have, give to the poor, and follow me" thing? How much money do you make each year kissing Ray's ass? You're donating all of that to the poor, aren't you? Wait, you aren't donating any if it? Oh, right, you really aren't that serious about Jesus being your savior, are you? Just so you know, Ray isn't at all serious about following Jesus either. He just says he is. You know, he's a hypocrite, just like you.
Confused?
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