[in response to the a poster saying that there are two kinds of evolution macro and micro]
Shane, I must admit, you are very subtle.
The existence of God is proven in the Word of God, by the very creation you live in and, if you are saved, by His residence in your heart.
Evolution, on the other hand, has no sufficient evidence to prove it.
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"The existence of God is proven in the Word of God,"
The existence of evolution is proven by the theory of evolution. You lose.
And the Word of God is proven by what exactly?
You have the word of Bronze Age tribesmen, we have fossils, astrophysics, biology, paleontology, geology, etc.
We win.
The first proof (as if it were even possible) of God's existence is http://for-oh-two.ytmnd.com , and the rest of them are only relevant to those who believe to begin with.
Evolution, well, I'm not going to bother citing the lot, but define 'sufficient'. Please, give a concrete definition of 'sufficient'.
"Shane, I must admit, you are very subtle."
In other words, this kid is probably going to be labelled a troll and/or banned from T4C because he is probably smarter than those asshats. Nice job Shane.
The cult leader once again goes straight past all the evidence and comes up with the same reason evolution isn't real. Do we really have to refute this again?
Thumbs up for Shane BTW, you're better of banned from Randy's cult anyways.
If one puts together enough instances of "micro-evolution," one has an instance of "macro-evolution." There is evolution, no matter how you folks wish to divide it.
"Evolution, on the other hand, has no sufficient evidence to prove it."
No, the evidence displayed here is simply that BR can't or won't read any books which disagree with his idiot religious views. Mountains of credible evidence exist supporting the ToE.
One hundred forty eight years of accumulated evidence, plus the total support of paleontology, geology, biology, micrbiology, and genetics (among others).
And your proof would be ...?
Oh, the Word of God, you say? Let's take a look at that shall we?
The Bible (presumably the Word of God you refer to) states that it is indeed the Word. Now, what evidence does it provide to prove this? Well, you have its authority as the Word, and you know God wouldn't lie, so if it says its God, then it must be God, right? Wrong.
Using that logic, I can prove that I am the king of England. In fact, I give you my word as the king of England that I am the king. Evidence proves me wrong, but I gave you my word as king , and kings don't lie, so it must be true. Evidence be damned!
You see how this works? Its circular. I am the king, using my word as king to prove my last statement, when in fact I have proven nothing.
Cancer cells evolve in tumors
Cancer cells in a tumor evolve due to natural selection. They compete fiercely for reproductive space inside the tumor, changing strategies to beat out other cancer cells and to triumph over chemotherapy.
"A tumor cell population is constantly evolving through natural selection," says Carlo C. Maley, Ph.D., an assistant professor in the Molecular and Cellular Oncogenesis Program at Wistar whose own research focuses on this area. He is senior author on the new review. "The mutations that benefit the survival and reproduction of cells in a tumor are the things that drive it towards malignancy.
"Evolution is also driving therapeutic resistance," Maley adds. "When you apply chemotherapy to a population of tumor cells, you're quite likely to have a resistant mutant somewhere in that population of billions or even trillions of cells. This is the central problem in oncology. The reason we haven't been able to cure cancer is that we're selecting for resistant tumor cells. When we spray a field with pesticide, we select for resistant pests. It's the same idea."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061117114616.htm
See Also; ring species.
The "proofs" you're presenting are strawman-like, to say the best. The Word of God is not a proof, because it had to be written AFTER it was proved that God existed. On the other hand, who can tell you that it was not forged, misinterpreted................?. The other two are so vague and inconsistent that I laugh. Ok, if creation(whatever you mean)and our hearts prove God, why have all the people throughout history had interpreted that reality in so many ways, or not interpreted it AT ALL?. Don't apply double standards. If you can't demand empirical proof for God, don't do it for evolution(and there is, it's not our business if you don't or can't or don't want to understand it)
I like it when they use the Bible as proof.
If I say there are Orcs in my back yard, that proves there are Orcs in my back yard.
Hasn't anyone shown him the fossils? Or DNA? Or genetics? Or ring species?
Silly me. That doesn't count as evidence! It's not in the Bro Randy approved version of the bible.
I say we throw fossils at him :)
Evolution, on the other hand, has no sufficient evidence to prove it
And never will, in Randy's mind. If God Himself came down, head-slapped Randy and said "use your brain - evolution is how I did it", Randy would say "you're wrong - show it to me in the King James Bible!"
Welcome to Randy-land!
Where "I say so" is proof, scientific evidence isn't, magic is real, and science is fiction!
"Using that logic, I can prove that I am the king of England."
England has had no King for some time.
God proves himself by a book you claim he wrote.
So I can write a book about myself and say I'm a time traveling dragon hunter and poof, it's true since I wrote it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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