Children need Bible clubs in schools. Public schools were created so that all children can learn the Word of God firsthand. Americans have no freedom if they don't have the Holy Bible. Man was not born into immorality's slavery but to be free to glorify God. Secular West enslaves mankind with abnormal immorality if it doe not follow the Holy Bible. Slavery to sin or freedom by God's truth. It's one or the other; there is no middle ground.
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I have zero objection to the existence of Bible clubs. If religious kids want to discuss their religion with other kids, they can go ahead. It's when fundies use those clubs as a cult-style recruiting ground that things get hairy.
Public schools were created so that all children can learn the Word of God firsthand.
Because learning about anything else might give them ideas that contradict what Grace Kim Kwon believes to be the Word of God, and we can't have that!
Americans have no freedom if they don't have the Holy Bible. Man was not born into immorality's slavery but to be free to glorify God. Secular West enslaves mankind with abnormal immorality if it doe not follow the Holy Bible. Slavery to sin or freedom by God's truth. It's one or the other; there is no middle ground.
Your definitions of "freedom" and "slavery" are worthy of a certain memetic quote from a Spanish swordsman.
Grace, I don't think you really understand the meaning of the word "freedom", or the word "public". Public schools were created to serve the PUBLIC, that is, all of us, not just "the Christian public". Teaching about the bible is the work of churches. We do not expect to have biology and mathematics taught in churches; similarly, we don't teach bible-babble in the public schools.
Freedom OF religion means freedom FROM religion as well.
Last I checked, public school in America was created so that education could go to everyone. Before, the only options were private institutions and hiring a personal tutor for education-- and both were so expensive that a formal education was essentially a rich man's privilege. But when public education rolled around, minors from across the country had, for the first time, opportunities to learn in a structured environment what we take for granted today-- literacy, a solid background in complicated mathematics, science, world history, you name it. And with that came the groundwork needed for higher education (if people were willing to splurge) and, even without higher education, a great first step into getting the good jobs instead of being stuck with the jobs that don't pay enough to pull anybody out of their financial situation. I won't lie and say that the American public school system is perfect, but it was not invented for the purpose of being a fundie propaganda mill. To present such a selfish and manipulative goal is an insult to the very purpose and impact of public schools.
"Man was not born into immorality's slavery but to be free to glorify God."
Children need Bible clubs in schools.
Right! And they should be mandatory. At least two hours a day. Any child who cannot recite all the Psalms by heart by the age of ten should have his/her knuckles beaten with a heavy ruler until they bleed. Older children (12-15) should be able to quote all the Epistles without any flaws. No abnormal immorality for them. This would give them the freedom of the Lord.
If the Bible club is student-initiated and student-run, then I don't think there are any rules against having one. As long as it isn't something promoted by school administration or made mandatory, then it should be fine.
I think my old high school may have had a Bible club, actually. I didn't go to it, although I did participate in "See You At The Pole" one year.
When I was a child, Sweden had a state church, and lots of kids went to Sunday school. We had Christianity Classes in school each week, we usually did a nativity play or similar in school around Christmas and held the Christmas term ending and often also the school-year ending in the local church.
Christianity wants man to be God's slaves. There is little or no freedom in religion, it's mostly "Obey, or ELSE..."
Secular West frees mankind with civil rights and freedoms.
There is no "sin" in secularism, there's only empathy, respect and law-abiding.
There are a lot of "middle" grounds; Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, Wicca, etc.
"Children need Bible clubs in schools."
GKK (Running after a kid): "STAND STILL SO I CAN HIT YOU WITH THE BIBLE CLUB!!!"
Kid: "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!"
Children need Bible clubs in schools.
Because no child has any free time outside school hours.
Public schools were created so that all children can learn the Word of God firsthand.
That is not even the primary purpose of church schools. You are confusing schools with churches. Public schools, on the other hand, were established to give children the necessary education to join the labor force and be good citizens.
Americans have no freedom if they don't have the Holy Bible.
The First Amendment guarantees the availability of the Holy Bible to Americans. That is what makes them free.
Man was not born into immorality's slavery but to be free to glorify God.
So you've stopped believing in Original Sin?
It's one or the other; there is no middle ground.
The cry of the fundie everywhere, whatever their beliefs. Fundies don't do nuance.
"Children need Bible clubs in schools."
Unless the homos use the SCOTUS decision that allows bible clubs to have a homo club. Then the bible clubs will be shut down so fast it will cause a sonic boom.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/clubs
Children need Bible clubs in schools.
Because Christian parents have zero time at home or on Sundays to teach their children about their religion.
Public schools were created so that all children can learn the Word of God firsthand.
Or more likely to teach them about life and the world in order to get them ready to be adults.
Americans have no freedom if they don't have the Holy Bible.
BOOM! Irony meter. Don't talk about forcing children to learn Christianity and then talk about freedom in the same post.
Man was not born into immorality's slavery but to be free to glorify God.
FRFEDOM IS SLAVERY!
Americans have no freedom if they don't have the Holy Bible.
Freedom is slavery.
Children need Bible clubs in schools.
Clubbing children with bibles.
Let's compromise.
You get to have bible club, and we get to pick the stories for them to read.
And we get to have Evolution Club at your churches.
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Nah, I'll just put you on a pedestal made of Tangerines.
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@Jocasta McFucken
"Grace, you're so totally nuts. So completely, bafflingly, off-the-rails batshit."
I'm ¾ of what you suggest Greasy Kumquat is
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