1) I would guess that ~50 times more people have been killed in the name of no God with Darwinism as its system of origins in the last 100 or so years than all of what have been killed in the name of God, rightly or wrongly, in the entirety of human history.
2) Most of the killing done in the name of religion was Satanic.
3) Christianity is not a religion, its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't like religion either, Godless religions such as yours, or false religions, especially false Chrisitianity.
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I know it's "evolution fairytale forum" and stuff, but have you ever tried to read a book not from your church or pastor? It would help your spelling and grammar and your grip on reality.
I guess this guy tries to imply Hitler and Stalin were godless dictators and tried to establish some kind of darwinocratie (which actually would rule, because it seems we as human beings have some kind of built on morality which is constantly overridden by religions).
Edit: I've got a question. Does anyone know what this excerpt means: "... in the name of no God with Darwinism as its system of origins ..."
Does he try to sound clever by throwing some wordplay? I cannot relate to that.
Klaus: he's refering to atheism being caused by Darwin when he came with his ToE. And because Stalin, Hitler, Mao etc couldn never have killed so many if they were christian, they were atheists. Therefore atheism is evil and caused all those deaths.
I'm laughing too hard at points 1 & 2 to comment.
As far as point 3 Christianity is most certainly a religion, calling it a "personal reationship" is a cowardly cop-out. Atheism isn't a religion, neither is science nor are the two related.
Describe, in exact terms, your "personal relationship" with a guy who purportedly died 2000 years ago and hasn't been seen since.
It sounds a little one-sided to me, sort of like looking at skin books and whacking off, when you were 13 years old.
This "personal relationship" with imaginary dieties is hilarious. I keep hearing this phrase, and can never resist chortling at the nonsense of it.
"1) I would guess that ~50 times more people have been killed in the name of no God with Darwinism as its system of origins in the last 100 or so years than all of what have been killed in the name of God, rightly or wrongly, in the entirety of human history."
Well, your guess is wrong.
"2) Most of the killing done in the name of religion was Satanic."
No. A. Satan is imaginary, and B. very few people world-wide, were ever worshippers of Satan.
"3) Christianity is not a religion, its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't like religion either, Godless religions such as yours, or false religions, especially false Chrisitianity."
So, you contend that Christianity is NOT a religion, but that atheism IS a religion? You're a much bigger idiot than I first suspected.
Stalin: Killed for political power.
Hitler: Killed because God "told him to."
George W. Bush: Started a war that can't truly be won during his term in office, all because God "told him to."
"Personal relationship with Jesus"? Hate to break it to you, but Jesus is having "personal relations" with a lot of people.
Just three seconds. Get a dictionary to grasp the meaning of religion. Xristianity IS a religion, Darwinism isn´t.IT´S A SCIENTIFIC THEORY. Second, NOBODY has killed in the name of darwinism. Maybe they have been insulted and slandered, if that any. To begin with, BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY EXISTS SINCE LONGER, so they have killed many people. Fourth, if Satanic really means to worship the Devil, wrong assertion. If you apply satanic to whatever you disagree with, we can call you fascist or satanic. Go to the debate team and learn to DEBATE and REASON.
Oh, of course! Maniacs and genocidal dictators who didn't claim a particular religion, are in that all encompassing class, where we can lump people together with all sorts of bizarre and varied backgrounds. Because, they're all the same, right? They are atheist. But when it comes to the concept of religion, which encompasses christians, jews, muslims, hindus, monks, and whatever other belief system in an unprovable being that has ever existed, then they are to be separated? Muslims did this one, and those guys did that one. If I'm going to be lumped in with, 'crazy as a shithouse rat' Stalin, then all christians are going to be lumped in with each and every Sikh, Sheik, Sunni, Samaritan, Sioux or Shinto that ever killed an individual over religious differences.
Im with Jacob.
don't give us that "personal relationship" bullshit. Its exactly the same as people who ask you to go to their church saying "its not a CHURCH! its a COMMUNITY!"
Christianity is a religion, more people have been killed in the name of your version of God than anywhere else... so fuck off.
Man, it annoys the fuck out of me those fucktarded bible-waggers attempt to re-define the word "religion" just to suit their own agenda.
Even if your re-definition is realistic, I can't help but quote the good old Frank Zappa:
"Tax the fuck out of churches!"
Nearly every word that gets quoted from this site (including its NAME) just infuriates me. This post is no exception; the wrongness doubles over on itself multiple times, which normally would be funny on at least some level, but it is SO wrong and SO saturated with smugness that I just find it totally maddening.
~David D.G.
Nearly every word that gets quoted from this site (including its NAME) just infuriates me. This post is no exception; the wrongness doubles over on itself multiple times, which normally would be funny on at least some level, but it is SO wrong and SO saturated with smugness that I just find it totally maddening. Agreed. It's supposed to be a debate forum, but the smugness, ignorance, and utter hypocricy of its members usually drives its dissenters into such frustration that they usually end up calling the mods on their shit and promptly get banned, at which point the mods take the opportunity to mock and insult them.
They almost remind me of the Phelpses to a degree. They act like total assholes, then ban anyone who calls them on their shit and whine that those mean old evolutionists were attacking them again.
Atheism is not a religion, any more than bats are birds.
The reason why more people have been killed in the last 100 years is (a) more people alive to be killed, and (b) more efficient means of killing people thru technology.
2 is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Satanists pre-17th century were too busy fucking to kill anyone. As for the modern Satanic killers, I'm not sure a few idiot teenagers killing cats counts.
I know it'll rock your world. But people die as a result of nature and natural selection. That's happened since before Darwin; he just explained it.
1) Killed in the name of no God? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
2) Wrong.
3) Christianity is a religion. The word "religion" does not imply only organized religion. It includes all of that "spiritual" stuff too.
Oh, and I can't believe no one called this guy out on this post. This is one of those posts that be ripped to shreds in a matter of seconds, and no one even bothered.
1.) If you're counting people dying, I'm sorry, but if stick to your story, eradicating the entire human race save for 8, and all animal life save for 2 of each, your God has the market cornered.
2.) Ah...no. Salem Witch Trials, the Inquisition, the Holocaust...just a small sampling of Christian mass killings.
3.) The True Scotsmen would like for your church to pony up on back taxes then.
I was going to post something pithy, until I seen that 1) all killing done in the name of religion is Satanic, and 2) Christianity is not a religion. He conveniently makes sure that Christianity cannot be classified in a way that would make it responsible for any war. You can't argue with that, not because it's logical, but because it's so insane. 92g, must be how much of the green stuff he smokes a day.
Klaus, He could be referring to Social Darwinism, which did kill (or at the very least helped kill) millions. It also led to eugenics, which was a factor in the Holocaust.
Now I know that Social Darwinism has very little to do with the Theory of Evolution, but they might not, or pretend not to know.
Confused?
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