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I_Heart_Jesus777 #fundie christianforums.com

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I mean seriously, you have to want to not believe God exists. First of all, all of the evolutionists can't explain how everything came from nothing. Christians can (duh God made the world) and the whole argument that humans come from monkeys is so weak, its not even funny.

1) If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Is that were chinese, blacks, polands etc came from? Different types of monkeys?
2) Just because monkeys are smart, does not mean we came from them. Velocoraptors from my understanding were very inteligent animals, why didn't they evolve into some higher creature?
3) If we still have monkeys, why arent they humans? What is taking them so long? Why were we humans back in the 1600s, and still have monkeys, and after all these years they havent changed a bit.
4) We have more proof that Jesus Christ existed than we do of George Washington, you can look that up if you like.
5) The earth is the perfect place for life. We orbit around the sun that God placed so perfectly, we have night and day so we can have time to sleep, we are protected from the outside of space with an atmosphere, we have trees that supply oxygen, we have tons of minerals to help us with our lives, and all of you evolutionists think that all of this came from nothing? With no help from God? You think that this world so perfectly compatable for human life can exist? Its crazy.
6) 3/4 people believe God exists. Thats over half of the world.
7)The Bible says that people will persecute Christians, so i know all of you all will continue to do this, and the Bible says that anything that proves against the knowledge of God will be cast down.

All of you evolutionists exist as a test of our faith, satan is using you to undermine us. But, eventually you guys will come face to face with the almighty God, and then you guys can then tell me who was right. Have a nice day.

Chie #fundie christianforums.com

[22-year-old Nick Wallis, who has muscular dystrophy, had hoped to experience sex before he died. After telling staff at the Douglas House hospice in Oxford of his wish, they decided to help him, reported London's DailyTelegraph.]

Wonder if he would have requested losing his virginity to a sheep, cow or chicken, wonder if they could have talked the farmer into loaning one of his animals to help a dying mans last request. Simple amazing how the world will help sin along.

Gipper #fundie christianforums.com

Atheists go out of their way to deny the truth and reject God. They are the true definition of evil and satanic! I understand why Christians would get tired of confronting Stan on a regular basis it drains your spiritual energy.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

The universe is as old as you want it to be. But God created Adam and Eve and put them in the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago. There are theistic evolutionists that believe that God created them over time and then when man had developed to where he is now, God put them into the Garden. The modern age began.

Perhaps you need to do a little bit of study on biodiversity to see how that works.

Robert43 #fundie christianforums.com

'm 100% Fact without question Jesus is alive. You Atheists will change on your death bed or wake up after death. This is a 100% Fact. You feel young and healthy but you death clock is ticking down. The only Atheists that doesn't worry about Death is one that will never die.

mikefromwichita #fundie christianforums.com

[To a Christian who doesn't say the Pledge because Jesus condemned oath-taking (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=Matthew+5%3A33-37&version=NIV">Matthew 5:33-37</a>)]I assume that being as how you are unable to swear allegiance to this Nation that you also live a Pietistic life- not voting, not sitting on juries, not seeking employment from the State and so on??????

HisdaughterJen #fundie christianforums.com

Ok...let's plant the feet firmly on the ground and imagine what kind of changes Obama would initiate in America.

1. There will be more mosques and Islam will become dominant.
2. Racial tensions will increase.
3. Gays and abortionists will be given more rights.
4. Taxes will go sky high to subsidize special interests.
5. Christianity will undergo greater attack and laws will be passed that the Bible is hate speech.
6. Obama's pals will be appointed to his cabinet and include known terrorists and hate-mongers.
7. Obama will accept terrorist organizations/countries and deal face to face with Hamas and Hezbollah to the detriment of Israel.
8. America's military strength will be weaker as Obama cuts military.
9. Obama would give away our sovereignty to the UN or other global government.

Warrior Monk #fundie christianforums.com

If you do not think that the Bible is the Word of God and you think that every verse [encouraging destruction of native Middle Easterners] is open to interpretation and that all interpretaions are equally valid, what's the point of reading the Bible? Do you think the Ten Commandments are open to interpretation as well? How about the Golden Rule?

YourChild #fundie christianforums.com

My intention of this blog is to prove to you that the devil does exist. If you are one of those that doubt the existence of the devil then let me start off by saying that the devil is real and he is sly... so slick that he has deceived you into doubting his existence! The devil is a deceiver and he is so smooth at shoving thoughts into our heads that a lost soul without God in his/her life will not be able to discern between their own thoughts, and those from the devil. I will show you what I have experienced and you will judge for yourself, the validity of the existence of the devil. If you conclude that the devil exist then you surely cannot doubt the existence of God. There is good and there is evil.
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But after some time, something weird started happening. As you can see, my heart was all for Christ...but something wasn't right with me. Something evil was happening to me and I didn't know why. Suddenly my mind was raining storms of cuss words...cussing words directed at my Lord Jesus Christ! I was mentally cursing at Jesus inside my head while my heart was on fire for Him!! But HOW??? How can this be? How can I be mentally cursing at someone I truly love? But that was not all. There was more. I also heard me cursing at my own self inside my head. FOR CRYING OUTLOUD, I WAS MENTALLY AND INVOLUNTARILY CURSING AT MYSELF! I was shocked. It didn't make any sense! I started to get scared. I didn't know what was happening to me.

So how do you explain this? I'll tell you how. The devil was angry because I had given my life to Christ. It was the devil throwing his fiery darts at me!!! Ya you read me right!!! This right here is called logismoi. It is the process where your thoughts do not originate from you...they originate from the devil.

huldah153 #fundie christianforums.com

The most famous adherents of evolution have never truly believed in it themselves. Arthur Keith admitted that the theory is only kept going because it rejects fossil evidence that negates it. Richard Leakey stated outright that human evolution had been disproved by the discovery of a 3 million year old human skull from Africa. Stephen Gould conceded that evidence of transitional fossils is absent. Not even Darwin believed his own theory, having renounced it on his deathbed.

One11 #fundie christianforums.com

[One11's signature line]I'm sorry, but the words marriage belong to the Christian religions, as do the words husband (a male) and a wife (a woman), and gay marriage is an infringement of the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Need more info on how the words marriage, husband and wife belong to the Christian religions, just send me an IM and I'll be happy to answer you.

I stand for freedom of speech, and tolerance is a two-way street.

ONEGod #fundie christianforums.com

Isn't it odd that American symbols/icons that represent America should be unrinated and deficated on as acceptable, and even burned to show offense of the same, BUT Americans must/have to be respectful of the Koran and Islamic customs ? Seems we must accept disrespect to America and its Judeo-Christian heritage, but must respect Islam that hates us. Is this just a indication of a self-loatheing society like the time of Rehoboam ? God WAS NOT AMUSED.

rglencheek #fundie christianforums.com

Most of the atheists I have seen on this site are of the village atheist variety who are generally incapable fo following an argument for more than a few sentences and then respond in a completely irrelevant direction, not responding to my arguments at all. I once gave a simple list of arguments that I believe demonstrates the rationality of believing in God, and this was in response to an atheists claim that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to believe in God. Almost every atheist responded as though I were trying to actually present the arguments despite my repeated denials... This type of intelectual dishonesty is why I left the secular apologetical forum, and to sum it up, I have better things to do with my time than waste it on tossing pearls to swine.

jwp #fundie christianforums.com

[I've seen many attempts to make Genesis fit with modern science - none of them work. The Genesis account, taken literally, are just bad science. -artybloke]

Now that's an absolutist statement to make with no proof. Modern sceince makes a lot of assumptions for example there's never been enough time to prove that the decay of Carbon isotopes is a proved time. It's all theroy. Just like the THEROY of Evolution. Anytime a definitive statement is made centering around billions and billions of years (Saganism) there's no proof just assumption.

So to make your statement you MUST put faith in the (religous) SCIENCE statements that foist truth onto us by means of extrapolation of what they do know. The story of sceince is ever changing and corrupted by the sinful nature of man. I for one can't and won't accept anything they say as being the gospel truth when it comes to matters of unprovability.

drfeelgood #fundie christianforums.com

I should also clarify that the constant of time and gravity are two huge factors in the theory of evolution when it comes to the origin of the universe. Should these constants be eradicated, scientists will have to start over again.

ThaiDuykhng #fundie christianforums.com

[the Big Bang is the scientific theory that the Universe emerged from an enormously dense and hot state about 13.7 billion years ago]

what does dense mean? does it mean matter existed there? if so where did these matter come from? what is heat?("hot") where does it come from?how did energy came into being? You can't created something out of nothing, only God can do it.If you answer "no" to the 2nd question. then why nothing should bang and how nothing banged? When they solved it, I guess it's God or dusts created it. it's pure religion.Text book teaches after some dust went into the core, it starts spinning and eject everything. that should nullify all your comments. when you fall off a spinning merry-go-around you always spin the same direction of the merry-go-around. if you don't agree with this then tell me why it should bang at all.

Gottservant #fundie christianforums.com

Creation is winning by Evolutions rules

As technical as you want to be, Creation science is out-doing - out-surviving, out-evolving, out-creating - Evolution science. Just look at the evidence!

Creation - existed from the dawn of time
Evolution - existed later than the dawn of time

Creation - followers prepared to die for the belief
Evolution - followers not prepared to die for belief

Creation - messaging spreading to all parts of the world
Evolution - message spreading to some parts of the world

Creation - specific changes in creation predicted
Evolution - specific changes in creation yet to be predicted

Creation - eternal hypotheses (Heaven, Hell, Judgement Day, etc.)
Evolution - temporal hypotheses (life, death, etc.?)

Ok, so Evolution is losing, for the moment. But let's make this a fair fight!

Evolution - An author (Darwin et al.)
Creation - An eternal Saviour (the Lord Jesus Christ)

Evolution - no commitment to belief
Creation - life-long commitment to belief

Evolution - no commitment to theory (you don't change evolution)
Creation - total commitment to religion (you change at all costs)

Evolution - changing from finding to finding
Creation - constant from the first finding (God)

Evolution - number of people in Hell = all of them
Creation - number of people in Hell = less and less

Take a look! As far as standards go, the Lord has led us to victory all the way. Who knows? Perhaps evolution will lift its standards. Imagine that, Creationism showing Evolution how to have real standards!

Warrior Monk #fundie christianforums.com

You using open-minded to describe the majority of pagans and atheists on here is outright laughable. The only reason why the majority of them come here is not to share ideas, but to spew hate speech towards the Bible-believers. I have yet to hear a single logical explanation from a pagan or atheist. Could you site a specific example because I have no idea what you're talking about?

sgrimsley #fundie christianforums.com

I think that separation of church and state is the problem. This is a sick sick world, and to condone the removal of Christ from the same doctrine that was created in His name, "one nation under God" seems horrid to me. If we, as Christ's obedient children stuck with Him instead of allowing sin and degradation of Christ to run rampit, perhaps we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today. Homosexual marriage, premarital sex, telling others it's ok to believe in other gods... NO! It's wrong. I can't wait for Revelations to take place, so the Lord can take us home, and out of this place.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

Hey, evolutionists?

You can't find 2,000,000 Jews in the desert, given their itenary.

So don't harp on a handful of missing kangroo bones and expect me to stay up at night wondering about it.

And for the record, I don't believe the kangaroo trekked to and from the Ark in the first place.

I believe they were teleported.

But if you want to believe they trekked to and from the Ark, that's fine.

Just don't expect me to scratch my head over why you guys can find a few that died along the way.

I know why you can't find them -- you don't.

_Origen #fundie christianforums.com

Can humans and Chimps bear children through the process of arteficial insemination? Do we ever see any shred of evidence that man has ever at any point in time, evolved? Since the hominid record has been all proven a hoax, why do we still hold on to lies that will eventually lead to communism or naziism?

Robert43 #fundie christianforums.com

When Mac6yver and Kelly and others pay $10,000 a year out of their wages it will change their minds for sure... We would see real fast who wants NASA and who doesn't... BIG QUESTION HERE, Why doesn't the Bible say anything about people going out and exploration of space? The Bible says nothing about space travel only talks about earth itself. Another thing with God's help I will be here at long time before dieing. Are you ready to die?

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Pasteur shows us that if you have a theory you have to run experments and test your theory. Even Indiana Jones after his summer adventure had to go back to the lab and his teaching job. Darwin never did any work in the lab. A scientiest balances his field work with research and experments in the lab to back up his results from out in the field. Darwin never did any of this. He just wrote books and that makes him a philosopher not a scientist. There is nothing wrong with philosophy, but it is not science, because there is no evidence or proof for it.

["Darwin was now an eminent geologist in the scientific élite of clerical naturalists, settled with a private income, while privately working on his theory. He had a vast amount of work to do, writing up all his findings and supervising the preparation of the multivolume Zoology, which would describe his collections. He embarked on extensive experiments with plants and consultations with animal husbanders, including pigeon and pig breeders, trying to find soundly based answers to all the arguments he anticipated when he presented his theory in public."]

"Animal husbanders" is a Creation Science term based on Adam being the first "husband".
So are you deconverting to becoming a Creationist now that you are using our langage?

FenderElctrc #fundie christianforums.com

Unless a homosexual couple is never going to have sex, you will be sinning because you can't get married. Also, it says it's sin in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. Now, people translate that verse, because it isn't what they want to hear. You guys waste your time. It is what it says. Deal with it. Translate verses is not the way to go. You listen to what God said. The new age churches are translating verses. This is what false prophets do. People are deceived by them because it is what they want to hear. Look at the verse for what it is. It clearly states that it is sin.

worship4ever #fundie christianforums.com

Get your head out of your butts and start looking at things from an objective manner. Darwin himself stated that his theory could be proven wrong if some things in science could be found, they have. What you people have done is taken the theory of evolution and applied it to every aspect of science. You think the universe is evoling, plantets, space, cells, animals, humans, everything, its stupid. I feel sorry for you guys.

oldwiseguy #fundie christianforums.com


God refers to himself as a potter. Job reveals that God rather painstakingly formed the earth. If you've watched a potter at work you have a good idea how God formed the earth (the only object we can study up close). The angels watched and rejoiced when the foundations were laid. This too, indicates a careful, methodical, process.

The finished product would have revealed this as well. You have to visualize the perfection that was the earth before the rebellion. It's orbit would have been perfectly circular, with no tilt in axis. No harsh winter, a tropical climate with abundant plant life. No destructive weather patterns. This is also the restored condition God has promised.

jsn112 #fundie christianforums.com

You professed yourself as gay but I still love you. Really. But that doesn't mean that I like what you do. I have said many times that I love the killer, Jeffrey Dalmer. But that doesn't mean I like his killings.

GTX #fundie christianforums.com

God made the rules. He didn't say I will never kill anybody or inspire people to kill for me. Yes, it seems flat out wrong, but that's because we don't have the intelligence to know God. Maybe he's meaner than people want to think. That's why I am against sugarcoating.

TRIBULATOR #fundie christianforums.com

All of these useless attempts are always utilized by atheists: try to make it sound like Christians use fear tactics[,] try to make it sound like ist a matter of intelligence. Well your tactics only work on weak minds that are not enlightened by the Holy spirit, those minds that are empowreed are far beyonf your feeble reach.

Fire Ox #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

By the way, once you take God out of the picture in this argument, homosexuality is okay. If God doesn't exist homosexuality is fine. But, so is polygamy, brother-sister marriages, even bestiality. That's why homosexual marriage should be illegal.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

It kinda of surprises me that you would ask that question... Before science ever got involved, we had a TV, Radio, Photograph, Movie Camera, Telephone, to name a few. What science gave us was the transister, and later the micro processor.

Ginny #fundie christianforums.com

A non believers take on understanding and a saved person's take on understanding are two different things. Because if a non-believer truly understood what the Bible meant, they wouldn't be a non-believer.

bluetrinity #fundie christianforums.com

Because good without God doesn't exist. In other words, every act is always selfish. If God comes into your life, this changes and acts and people become less selfish. Now, does that mean there are no good acts? No. People DO do good things. But most people do good deeds to make themselves feel better about themselves or they don't know why they do good deeds. It just feels good and right to them. But that's God working in them.

DrFate #fundie christianforums.com

[Or just not raping somebody is a choice....
As I said earlier "Don't imply that she could have avoided it if she'd only done/not done x.]

WOMEN HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS.
She is not respecting the feelings of males in the general population. Some, many, have very poor control over themselves. Older cultures know this, so they require women to dress modestly. If you dress like a hooker do not be surprised if peopl e react to you as if you are a hooker. Do not be suprised if some male with poor control over himself sexually assaults you...US norms are now pretty disrespectful of the sensibilities of the male population. They are playing with fire and sometimes they get burned."

Ilovecartoons #fundie christianforums.com

[Second law allows local decrease of entropy, which is all evolution requires.]

The local decrease is ALWAYS temporary, which is what Evolution DOESN'T require. You have to keep defying continually.

The 2 law says anything LEFT TO IT'S OWN DEVICES tends toward DISORDER. Adding energy does NOT do anything unless the energy is AVAILABLE FOR USE.