But up to now all you seem interested in is to obtain knowledge. Not your fault I am sure, that is a lot the way our education system works in this country.

If we're going to give those living the gay 'lifestyle' special rights, we must grant arsonists rights as 'fire bug' Americans, pedophiles rights as 'pederast' Americans, thieves rights as 'sticky finger' Americans, et cetera. You might as well flush the whole thing down the toilet.

[Replying to article “Public execution of gay man in Iran met with cheers”.]

Consider this: do you see homosexual “pride” marches in Iran? No.

Do you see mincing, swishing “queens” parading down the streets in Iran? No.

Do you see homosexuals creating a public nuisance by congregating in homosexual bars in Iran? No.

Do you see homosexuals demanding that the institution of marriage between one man and one woman being discarded so as to include homosexual “relationships” in Iran? No.

Do homosexuals know their place in Iran, and are homosexuals shoved back into the closet just about as far as they will go? YES.

[Unless, of course -- the Ouija board is a silly childhood game, which has only the meaning we attach to it.]

That is not so. Monopoly is a game meant to learn about money. Ouija (it measn yes yes, what are we saying yes to?) was made as an entry point for demons. There are objects which demons are connected with. I do not care if you believe me or think its not so, it is.

[After US troops in Iraq are investigated for torturing prisoners]Although some Americans have forgotten the view of People jumping out of a 110 story burning building I haven't. That image will forever be inprinted in my mind! Do I care whether an Iraqi gets kicked or not? Unfortunatly no.

I'd like to point out that neo-Darwinist "scientists" who evolved from monkey and ape ancestors in Africa aren't properly qualified to judge the American people, especially Jewish, Christian and Islamic people who are descended from Abraham's ancestor, Noah.

[After a 'miraculous' cancer recovery was debunked]

These miracles go through an extremely strict validation process by the Church. Sometimes it takes centuries to be sure of their validity. And only after that is done, can the person become a Saint.

If the Church has approved this miracle, then it has passed all the tests. I take their word for it over any secular news report.

The whistle blew on this game about 50 years ago, and the atheists have definately lost. In another century the term atheist will be taken as ad hominem.

A non-fundie asks another poster about similarities between hominid fossils and modern humans, fundie denies the similarities come from common descent.

Dear PS, It's because they share a common CREATOR. Prehistoric people looked exactly like Humans since they were made after His kind. That is, the kind of person Jesus made with His own Hands. While prehistoric people LOOKED like Humans, they did NOT have the Human intelligence of Adam, the first Human, until they produced children with Adams descendants. Genesis 6:4

The misguided ToE cannot explan How or When Humans inherited their Human intelligence from Mindless Nature, since Nature has NO intelligence. God shows us HOW and WHEN the prehistoric people changed from animal to Human intelligence. It was when Noah's grandsons married and produced children with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived. That's God's Truth and it also refutes the False idea that Humans are Apes. That is a Satanic Lie because Humans were made long BEFORE our Planet was formed. Genesis 2:4-7 Haven't you noticed that NO one can refute this Fact? God Bless you.

If you're curious about how humans could have existed before the Earth, according to another post the world before Noah's flood was actually another Earth made entirely of flat dirt that washed away in the flood water. The Ark was raptured to our Earth during the flood. Really.

[After being pointed to scripture that's interpreted as meaning you can have recreational sex as long as you're married]

I have a few things to say concerning this scripture. First, do this passages have to be referring to intercourse? Being satisfied by your wife's breasts and embracing a spouse's bosom does not sound like intercourse to me.

Jesus is God! It was proved in the Bible... There were cases in the NT where Jesus could not perform miracles because of unbelief. Maybe this is why miracles are not so common-because of unbelief!

It's scriptural for me to pray for victory over our enemies. If you don't like it you can pray for the other guys.

I would never marry someone of another race. Why?
"Z0MG Z0MG Z0MG IT'S BECUZ YOU HATE BLACKS LOLOL WOW LOOK HOW DUMB I AM"

Actually, that's not it at all. It's because the white race is a dying breed, and I don't like that idea. God made people black, white, brown, yellow, to show His creativity and every aspect of the beauty of His creation, and I'd hate to see part of that creation wiped out for the sake of political correctness.
Unfortunately, all anyone thinks when they see the sentence: "I would never marry someone of another race", is "WOW YOU RACIST BIGOTED HOMOPHOBIC OLD FASHIONED HATEMONGER"

You wouldn't know what love is if it wasn't for God. In fact, come to think of it. You probably don't. No wait. Your answer is probably something like this: "Love is a chemical reaction in the brain influenced by the way the starts shine on the yellow elephants in the Gnorgy solar system...yadayadayada....

Either way. If God exists, and if he created us, and if he loves us, and if he sent his son to die for us, then it would be unreasonable to assume that he would force us to love him. Then, however, we are left to love someone or something better than him. So, by all means, go ahead and do that. Nobody keeps you. Is that hell? I don't know. Maybe it's like getting satisfied sexually by five blonde virgins in eternity. If that's your thing, you will probably get it. But make no mistake. Eternity is a long time. And even getting laid in eternity is probably more like hell than heaven.

I told my cousin who was at the age where she was into harry potter you know if Harry had just forgiven whats his name and let go he wouldnt have had to go through all that trouble.
If someone killed your parents you dont go out and destroy them you just trust the Lord to avenge for you...

She then said oh yea lol. Then there would be no story. But I think the whole point of it was to get people interested in witchcraft and trained up into it, well at least making it attractive. Thankfully my cousin wasnt obssessed or hooked into it, but I would see children that were and got into darker things (i worked in a public library, i knew all the occult books they had)

Since I have some people here [on a topic about evolution in the Science subforum), Im going to share the gospell with you guys (one more time wont hurt, you must have heard it all before i know)

... every religion says basically this: you live a good life and God will love you and you go to heaven. This is the breading ground for religious zealotry. However, Christianity says that we are already saved and loved by God because of what Jesus did for us. That's why true Christianity can never be oppressive.

Any historian knows there would be no Buddhists at all if there were no "judgemental" Christians who died so you could believe whatever nonsense you like.

It's sort of like saying a hippie is nicer to people than his father, a WW II soldier was. The hippie would be saluting der Furher and violently reeducating Buddhists but for his father's sacrifices.

Secondly, diversity may be advantageous if a population survives a population-threatening event but there is no way to assert that diversity is good for a population before the population-threatening event is known because it is threateningly unknown.

The above seems to be the typical problem of evolutionary thinking: on the one hand the actus reas (the guilty act, to use legal terminology in relation to the sin of evolving) is confused with the mens rea (the guilty mind) in the sense that evolutionists all believe they have evolved because they think they have evolved, on the other hand the mens rea is confused with the actus reas in the sense that it is believed that we can evolve before there is time to evolve, simply because we are already thought to have evolved, mistakenly.

No one goes to bed hungry that is trusting in God to provide for them.

[in response to the Darwin renounced evolution on his deathbed story]

I would rather believe Lady Hope. Granted, it is entirely possible that she may have lied, but given that she was a staunch Christian, I don't think she would have for fear of facing an eternity of hellfire.

Honestly, atheists are genetically inferior beings. God has predestined them to their retarded state. I truly believe that Satan will use them as toilet paper in hell. God has given us a sign against atheism. It is their undeniable ugliness that gives them away. 95% of atheists would rate below a 2 on hotornot.com. If this is not proof, then I don't know what is. You are ugly.

My definition of smart:

A child who asks the teacher why the theory of evolution is being taught as though it were fact.

Gods want FAITH. Maybe He feels He has given us enough 'witness' and now wants us to believe regardless 'science' shows. Maybe it takes a sort of 'blind faith' to weed thru all the 'evidence'.

Guess you weren't "listening" when you read the OP. Please read it again, and
understand it for the facts within it, and come out from under the mushroom
and into reality. This should be a health concern for everyone and should not
be a political or personal matter.

Straight people do not give aids to other straight people.
This is not a recorded fact whatsoever. If a "straight person" gives another
"straight person" HIV, then one of them isn't exactly straight,
or engaged in sexual activity with another who wasn't exactly straight
unless one of them is a victim of tainted blood.

Homosexual males are the source of HIV/AIDS.

If you don't like the factual data, take it up with the
Health Dept. and the Center for Disease Control.

No sexual immorality/fornication/adultery which is ALL sex outside the
covenant marriage between a man and a woman as ordained by God is
good for society on a whole. That is why God said, FLEE sexual immorality.
(or fornication-same thing)

1 Corinthians 6:18-20
18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is without the body; but he
that commits fornication sins against his own body.

19What? Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which
is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own?
20For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body,
and in your spirit, which are God's.

If any of us here claim to have been washed in the blood of Jesus and made partakers of the Holy Ghost, then we need to pay particularly close attention to verses 19-20 as they absolutely apply to us who bear His name. So, we need to change our ways, or change our name. We cannot serve two masters, just as Jesus said. We will love the one and despise the other or vice versa. (or hey I know! create a new Jesus...but no that one, the one created by the minds of men, who choose not to walk in the light, cannot save a flea much more a soul)

MUMBO JUMBO. This is a Christian Forum, not a science forum, so I was giving a YEC view of dinosuars in the Ark. All the animals would have fit. It has been throroughly researched and documented. Besides this is what the Bible declares, so it is true. All the animals after their kinds were taken in the ark. This is what happened according to God. Call him a liar if you will, but I chose to believe.

It's funny how you will NOT accept God without proof, but you will accept other things without proof. No one has PROVED evolution yet, but yet you accept it as fact. There is a reason why it is the THEORY of evolution. At least be consistent in your beliefs

The most famous adherents of evolution have never truly believed in it themselves. Arthur Keith admitted that the theory is only kept going because it rejects fossil evidence that negates it. Richard Leakey stated outright that human evolution had been disproved by the discovery of a 3 million year old human skull from Africa. Stephen Gould conceded that evidence of transitional fossils is absent. Not even Darwin believed his own theory, having renounced it on his deathbed.

I used to be OEC, and could not believe that the earth was young, because of all the "scientific evidence" that I'd been hit with all my life.

So when our financial advisor lent me some Hovind tapes espousing YEC, I went into it with an open mind, but did not think I would be convinced. I was wrong. It makes me sick that so much knowledge is being hidden from school children because it weakens faith in evolution.

I've heard that evolution is still going on but yet no one can explain why humans have stopped evolving from animals.

I'm glad to see they are not letting this sick perversion be compared to the long struggle of the black community for equal rights. Gays have never faced segregation, enslavement or been declared less than human. Homosexuals are held to saint-like status in the media on a daily basis.

Evolution does say that we evolved from monkeys and micro organisms. Particularly hard core evolutionists.

Evolution is an elaborate fairy tale propigated by atheists. They are hell bent on explaining away their Creator as if they could only disbelieve hard enough maybe they could make reality go away. (Sadly, some Christians have been cowed by the hype.)

Visit any forum and it doesnt take long to see atheists patting themselves on their backs for their superior rationality but resorting to argument ad hominem and changing the subject rather than confront the evidence.

[And right out of the gate, Christians refer to the Bible, to prove the Bible is right.

Anyone else see the circular reasoning in this?]

And what would you suggest?

If we use the Bible then you call it circular reasoning.

If we say we have revelation you say we are imagining it.

Overall, I find speaking to athiests pretty much a total waste of energy since all you seem to want to do is ask a question so that you can then jump in with your tired criticisms.

the body cannot do anyting on its own, the soul is the life principle - what animates it.

... most people who have told me they believe in evolution dont really know what it's about and seem to be saying that so they dont have to actually think about it

[After someone explains the Strong Nuclear Force]Seems like a pretty good arguement to me. Like I said, gluons have never been observed, measured, or proven to exist. They were made up by Athiests to try to explain the phenomina of why the nuclei stay together. Gluons do not exist.

What a lot of heterosexuals do is just as evil and corrupt. I even heard a "heterosexual" claim he was turned on by watching two girls going at it! The guy is nothing but a creep. Such practices are what have brought homosexuality out of the closet. Magazines, books, pictures and movies are just excuses to be immoral. It's all down hill from the Romper Room days....

['Evolution has its uses in fields like medicine, agriculture, engineering and so on']

Evolution is not being used. What is being used is what has always been known as APPLIED SCIENCE. Horticulturalists essentially do the same thing. They selectively cross pollinate flowering vegitation to BREED a pure strain variation. Their creative work has not produced a veggitoid. Neither does one seem to be in the works, either "experimentally" or "naturally".

i told you once opinions dont count... Your theology is also wrong..... I dont think Homosexuals should have any rights until they become a heterosexual.....

*sigh* Wow, apparently, if a woman can't vote, she's being oppressed. If she stays at home, she's being abused and hindered. Can't get a job: rejected and proclaimed inferior. Geez, no wonder feminists are so miserable with such a bastardized view of the world around them!

The young people who are indoctrinated with the make-believe theory of evolution, which is willfully expanded from the recorded scientific observations of natural selection, will believe in that theory as they believed in Santa Claus, even though there is no direct evidence to prove the theory. The corporate/science controls the belief in the theory by directing funding to favorable projects and complient researchers. They control the publishers and decide what will be written in text books and they thereby control the minds of the populace by controlling what they are allowed to learn. The ultimate aim is the same for controlling Santa Claus. And that aim is money and power. Christmas and corporate/science are two of the largest grossing cash cows that the manipulators possess. In both, money is not the only objective. A corollary to the money is control of society, and that may be as important to the greedy people as the money, for it leaves the mainstream population susceptible to other manipulations. The big problem with such societal manipulations is that it doesn't allow science to advance apace of it's collective human knowledge, but it retards it and, as it's main focus, has it investigating lines of inquiry that are predetermined to return scant knowledge.

Also Evolution is supposed to have happened according to the humanists, but I have a question to ask. If in Evolution and survival of the fittest are correct and also Evolution is a science according to the humanists then there shouldn't be any purpose in life. But since I'm a biology major and I'm currently taking Organic Chemistry and Lab, I have noticed that in our Lab Notebooks we have to have a purpose why we're doing the experiment. If Evolution is a science should it have a purpose why evolution has occurred? Also, why does the atheist cry when his wife dies in a car crash? Life has a purpose. We all have a purpose. Can you imagine that someone wants to be good to you? God wants to be good to us all. He's not bad at all. God looks for good and finds good. Ever since Adam had sinned, God wants the relationship with man that he once had. So he gave his only begotten Son Jesus to save us all from hell and eternal damnation. But whoever is not a christian already has to make the choice whether to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and let God love you just the way you are or to reject God and his free gift for a lowzy place in american society with no purpose other than to feel good.

no,homosexuality is what is sick,demented,and deplorable,God calls it an Abomination! I think He describes it perfectly!

I'm firmly confident that the theory of creation is a much better fit to the data than evolution. Evolution makes statements about origins yet supposedly when pressed on this, evolutionists always back away throwing the blame onto some other theory. This is ridiculously unfair as creation also makes claims about origins and we don't throw our origins onto some other theory.

Even atheism is a religion. It is a worldview that requires faith in something that man cannot prove. Not only is it a false religion, it is one of the most dangerous and still being taught to our youth as truth.

Being born a certain way doesn't make it right or natural anyway. Someone could be born with a kleptomaniac gene or a tourette syndrome gene, that still doesn't make those activities okay. People are born mentally ill, that doesn't make erratic and crazy behaviour acceptable.

First of all, the Big Bang theory has been proven correct, because the universe is non-static (a fact that also disproves evolution) [...]

we know that the universe was created, because someone would have had to pull the proverbial pen that caused the explosion. now, for the catch: The bible is the only religious book that says that God is older than the universe (2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2). Therefore, Christianity is correct, because it goes hand in hand with science.

You forgot some other practices that have been developed through Darwinism:

Communism, Nazism, Racism, Atheism, Materialism, Amoralism, Scientism, Pantheism, Monopolism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, Freudianism, abortion, drug culture, promiscuity, eugenics, genocide, chauvinism, bestiality, Satanism to name a few.

All I was saying was that either the earth is flat, and the bible is correct, or the earth is round, and the bible is incorect, i'm going to study the issue more and deside for myself which route I want to take. Either Atheist evolutionist, who agrees with all of mainstream sciences, or flat earth litteral bible believer.

I'm leaning toward being an atheist, because if I can't believe the bible to be completly litteraly true, then I can't believe Jesus when he speaks about heaven, etc..

That would make the moon landing a fake, and pretty much all of modern science false...