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Torriatte #fundie dreamviews.com

[re: repeal of DADT]

If you have gays in the military....who will be permitted to shower with the straight men, or with other gay men...then you MUST also allow the straight men to shower with the women. Let's be consistent here. The main thing about gays in the military is the fact that it's pretty damn uncomfortable to be showering and bunking with a dude who wants to do you in the ass, if even in his own thoughts. It's a distraction. When I see co-ed showers...then I'll be ok with the gay thing too. All they have to do is keep it to themselves. Is that so difficult, considering it's against the code to have sex with a fellow soldier anyway?

kingerman #fundie dreamviews.com

It seems that people are saying that atheism is getting larger in America.But Atheism is a disease. Atheism is becoming more and more militant in their effort to deny God in the personal and public forum. This is a common tactic as was used by the homosexuals, feminists, and other anti-social groups looking to be normalized into mainstream society. These tactics are used mainly in America where they are protected and safe from retaliation. Or from behind a monitor, where they are hidden. They want no accountability to a higher power, or condemnation from fellow citizens so that they may live their life without the conscience that leads to feelings of remorse when they do things that go against our moral values. They aspire to support abortions, homosexuality, euthanasia. They are on the wrong side of most every issue that makes a country and society great.

ChaybaChayba #fundie dreamviews.com

I said atheism is completely pointless.

I challenge you to try and show me the point of atheism.

How does "believing God doesn't exist" make you any wiser? It's like one sentence. I already memorized that sentence, therefore I already memorized the whole of atheism, and atheism can't learn me anything new anymore.

Mystic7 #fundie dreamviews.com

Atheists have to have the biggest imagination of all to avoid their own foolishness. Albert Einstein was not an athiest. He was more a mathematician. He didn't have time to preach atheism he was too busy seeking and making practical use of his knowledge.

this quote shows where his dedication is and it's not atheism
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

Now to that absure website you linked too. Abraham Lincoln is not an athiest either, just because he doesn't like christian dogma of the bible doesn't mean he was atheist.

"Faith is the commitment of one's consciousness to beliefs for which one has no sensory evidence or rational proof. A mystic is a man who treats his feelings as tools of cognition. Faith is the equation of feeling with knowledge. "


Benjamin Franklin was not atheist either.

Marilyn Manson is not athiest. Neither is he a decent person anyway.

The rest of your list is rather redundant. Sorry but no-one is more useless than an athiest. Just looking back on history you can see that.

wendylove #fundie dreamviews.com

Atheist's are so immoral and stupid. If you don't read the bible how will you ever enter the kingdom of heaven. Historically speaking jesus was perfect, he sacrificed his life so we could go to heaven. The devil was angry that day, he should be because the savior was born.

Note: Although religion has hold back science, intelligence and killed many people. They weren't true christian. You are all wrong, I am right, I am the christian.

Who needs reason, logic or evidence when you have gut feeling and god. Does god even need evidence? The anwser is no. I can feel I am right, I have exprienced god, theirfore he must be real. Stuff like the big bang, evolution and basic scientific knowledge is wrong, they haven't got evidence and they have been proven wrong.

Yeah, so you can either think or have the bible. Science is second to the bible and belife is good. Faith is good. Atheist are closed minded, theist are divine and saved by jesus.

Half/Dreaming #homophobia dreamviews.com

Homosexuality does exist in nature, which makes me percieve homosexuality as a natural defect. A mistake in animal nature. Nature makes mistakes all the time.

There is also the theory of homosexuality being caused by sexual and gender confusion at a young age, brought on by early life events (like homosexual molestation). Any way you look at it, just because it exists doesn't mean its supposed to exist.

Riot Maker #fundie dreamviews.com

Evolutionists are fond of saying that the sun provides more than enough energy to drive their postulate. But does it? Is the energy useful to their postulate?

Raw energy from the sun, if not for the ability of living things to convert it to useful energy such as sugars, proteins etc. would be a destroyer of life. In many of the scenarios of primitive life the UV radiation is looked as the driver of the mutations need for evolution, but it conversely would destroy the organism as well if not protected. In fact the mutation rate being very slow and the energy being very fast the destruction would be very many times faster than the creation.


Raw energy from the sun, cannot create the specified complexity needed for life. It can only cause complexity to be lost in mutations. In the labs scientists use sophisticated equipment to polymerize proteins in the right way. If sunlight were to enter this process it would destroy the proteins


in out. ill pick this up in do time.

Ahhchuu #fundie dreamviews.com

[From a thread titled: "y some of u choose to be atheist"]

i think some of you choose to be atheist because u are at a forum read what people have to say and go with their opinion because it is in fact more believable. i also think some of you choose to be atheist so u can bash every christian that comes in your path so u can say the things that you have read every other wanna be atheist say.

im agnostic. i think that there are possibilitys in all religions but i refuse to believe that one is the prime example. if your atheist ways are wrong and like in the other post where the person said love jesus cuz u got a hole in your heart blah blah. you shouldnt be saying shit like omg your lord is bullshit, cuz it is possible there is one.

to be honest it makes u look stupid i know damn well you wouldnt be doing that shit in real life because you know that.

Jdog #fundie dreamviews.com

(re: Why Would You Not Believe In God?)

[Why would you not believe in Thor? Thor will go apeshit on you if you die before you accept him as your savior, you know.]

absence of evidence my friend is not evidence of absence. i would much rather be safe than sorry, i dont belive in thor beacause there is actual evidence of his absence (he was invented by ancients who thought he was lightning or created lightning).

spiritofthewolf #fundie dreamviews.com

I have nothing against Gays what so ever..Do I think the action of being GAY is wrong yes, but do i automatically shun that person away...no... I am not here to say "You must believe!" I can not make anybody believe, I can only deliever the message that Christ has asked us all to do..It is your choice if you want to deliever that message or not...In the end we will all be judged according to our works.....

There have been people that have said the Bible is a lie...Well would you let someone kill you for a lie, or would you give up everything you had right now for a lie...Judas gave up Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, but in the end realized his mistake, and tossed them back, and hung himself.. Now if Jesus was a lie, you really think he would do that? What about Peter? He ended up being cruxcified UPSIDE DOWN...which is way worse then being up right..

Now you really think that they would give up their lives and everything they had for a Lie...We all know none of us would...so why would they?

Bosco #fundie dreamviews.com

dreamviews is full of fucked up people man, you guys are so fucking ignorant, you aree on here to fucking prove other people wrong to make yourself feel better, get a fucking life, fuck off jackass, i simple wrote this post for people who do believe or are close to believing

ps there is a god fucking deal with it ass

pss if i get banned for this good ridden, they should really ban fucking athiest non believers like you

Xaqaria #fundie dreamviews.com

[Nothing proves creationism, or even supports it. It's not necessary. A figment of your imagination. Something to make you sleep better at night.]

I disagree. I sleep no differently with or without it. Also, I think it is your perspective that makes it seem as though nothing supports it.

Personally, I see creation as self evident. Everything creates. I am a creator. All life on this planet was created by the sun, and so therefore creationism is definitely true. This is why I stress to the point of redundancy that it is only Young Earth Creationism that atheists really have a problem with. They think they disagree with all creationism theories only because they don't know any better.

Mystic7 #fundie dreamviews.com

According to my definition Einstein was not atheist. A scientist maybe. But that isn't atheism. Atheism is not scientific. I'm not saying atheist are useless morons. But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one. Because they just arn't that smart.

Sure you can gather together all the people who have being atheists. But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.

kingerman #fundie dreamviews.com

Let's start with homosexuality.I don't know why homosexuality is wrong. But one thing I can say is that when God made man and woman, He made them to fit perfectly together. Think about this, when two people of the same sex come together, they do not fit perfectly, one has to take on the opposite role or use some form of substitution. When you have one man and one woman, no substitutions are necessary; there's a perfect fit, and only God can create such perfection.

kingerman #fundie dreamviews.com

The Bible sees the denial of God as the true delusion, and this delusion extends to the atheist’s view of humanity as “good,” all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. A sober assessment of human beings recognizes that we lie, cheat, steal, lust, complain, become embittered and resentful, envy, hate, forget, and are careless, ruthless, disrespectful, and loveless. Not only do we do all these things on a daily and hourly basis, but we do them naturally from our birth. This is what God’s Word means when it says, “There is no one who does good” (Psalm 14:3). This does not mean we never do anything positive, like obeying our parents or giving money to a church or charity. It means that we are so obviously sinful that it is silly to call human beings “good.” Nobody teaches children to lie; they do it naturally. Nobody teaches teenage boys to lust; they do it naturally. Nobody teaches the employee to resent his boss or spread malicious gossip about the coworker with whom he is competing for a promotion; he does these things naturally. Nobody teaches the wife to unjustly criticize and complain about her husband, or the husband to neglect and condescend to his wife; both do these things naturally.

lonestarx #fundie dreamviews.com

also I found something intresting my teacher told us. For many years the bible was thought of as a lie because ( I forgot what the name was) it spoke of a acient city that was not real so therefore untrue But several years later they FOUND the city underground. The bible is indeed the word of GOD. Ever wonder when we say the name Jesus everyone crinches or their hearts jump or they simply refuse to hear anything aboult it. Its because that name gives of so much power. Try to prove the bible wrong; u cant.
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Beanhole #fundie dreamviews.com

Science can't prove how the Universe was created. Christianity can. It is much more believeable (at least to me) that there was a creator of the world rather than the world just appearing. And no, its not a pitiful strawman, its an argument that you would like to push aside since you do not know the answer.

Beanhole #fundie dreamviews.com

[Do you think that all beliefs are worthy of respect? Surely not. I don't think that beliefs based on ignorance and superstition deserve respect, especially when they are as intolerant (not to mention hopelessly contradictory) as the bible (reference: read the first post in this thread).]

The Bible does not contradict itself. I explained the first post in my last post. The Bible DOES make sense if you read it page by page instead of quote by quote. Have you read the Bible completely, Moonbeam? If not, then how can you criticize it?

Dewitback #fundie dreamviews.com

Atheists contradict themselves. How come people who believe in God can just tell you that God is outside our view point? I mean, God could be 4d, and we cant see him, and thats how he travels and knows everything, and heals people etc, and we could never comprehend it. But you guys always state that you can't believe in God because there is no proof for him.

Mystic7 #fundie dreamviews.com

M-Cat. You and I. We both know that faith drives results. The only greatness comes from our own faith. Atheists have no faith in intelligent design. They have no understanding in life and it's superior order. They have no respect for power and intelligence. How can they produce such works as those with much greater faith, which drives them to success. How can they produce anything other than failure. When they do not accept the life that gives them existence? You and I both know that atheism is a fad. Not a reality. Not something that can endure hardship. Not something that belongs to the soul of man. Anything else must surely be nothing more than a shallow lie. Non belief. How futile. But belief in what is good. How glorious. How can one fail that believes in good. How can one battle those that have such faith in such power. No match are they to those that do not believe. Believe in what? I speak of intelligence. Those that refuse intelligence shall be punished. Those that know and hold faith in what is true. They shall know what it means to experience glory. While the ignorance of atheism. I tell you with all my soul and being. It shall fail. It has already failed! Tune into the intelligence of peace and life. That which knows how and why it was created. Your soul knows so listen to it and you shall not perish with the dead that refuse and perish in their mistakes.

Dreamhope11 #conspiracy dreamviews.com

Sometimes proof is met by looking at things with a different point of view.
In the bible and other holy books it wouldn't say "Aliens from a different planet came and visited us and they gave us technology"
Of course not they would have no idea what a alien is so they would assume they where gods because of the way they travelled and looked.
Why do gods come from the sky?
Why don't the gods come from inside of trees or flowers.
Just as another poster said "We used to think the world being round was ridiculous" But hey look now we have found out it is round, maybe in 200 years time this theorey might be accepted, but untill then people who beleive this theorey would just have to wait and either get proved wrong or possibly proved right.
But there is no need to continously argue about it, lets just accept it as a possbility.
We could say a distant planet is made of cheese, untill all the planets in the universe have been discovered there might well be a cheese planet..

Mystic7 #fundie dreamviews.com

According to my definition Einstein was not atheist. A scientist maybe. But that isn't atheism. Atheism is not scientific. I'm not saying atheist are useless morons. But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one. Because they just arn't that smart.

Sure you can gather together all the people who have being atheists. But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.

kingerman #fundie dreamviews.com

["The bible is not any more fact than Peter Pan."]

Firstly, archaeology proves the Bible to be true. Down to the smallest detail. Ignorance breeds wrong suppositions and assumptions. The Smithsonian Instutute even uses the Bible as a guide in identifying archaeological dig sites. Name me another religious text with that kind of authority.

spiritofthewolf #fundie dreamviews.com

[Is lucid dreaming considered witchcraft?]

God says we will be judged not only by our actions, but also by our thoughts...when we become Lucid we have the ability to think..if you think something that is against Gods Will, do you not think God will know about it??

I was a avid Lucid Dreamer, and now a Christian.. I stopped Lucid Dreaming before even becoming a Christian...But think about it, God knows all our thoughts, even if we are dreaming....

psychology student #fundie dreamviews.com

[What i am trying to say is that if a human did what God has done, surely he would be diagnosed as mad or tyrannical. There is a thread above this about religion being like an abusive husband. I am not saying it is like that, but i am saying if we analysis God without the believe that he he does no wrong and he just cant understand his will, he doesn't seem such an amazing being after all.]

Let me ask you something Cuddly Person. Would you be percieved as mad or tyrannical if you played with your Lego set? You could create little Lego characters and a little Lego world, and you could make all the little Lego men fight eachother, but at the end of the day your acts are not mad or tyrannical because its your Lego set after all, and you have the right to do what you like. What if one of the little Lego men decided to disgnose you with a "Lego" psychological illness. You would laugh, because you are vastly superior to them and their little Lego terminology is pathetic in comparison to you; and, as it is Lego terminology it has no validity to your non-Lego human state. [Smilie]
Anyway I hope you get my point.

lonestarx #fundie dreamviews.com

also I found something intresting my teacher told us. For many years the bible was thought of as a lie because ( I forgot what the name was) it spoke of a acient city that was not real so therefore untrue But several years later they FOUND the city underground. The bible is indeed the word of GOD. Ever wonder when we say the name Jesus everyone crinches or their hearts jump or they simply refuse to hear anything aboult it. Its because that name gives of so much power. Try to prove the bible wrong; u cant.