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hollowface #fundie flyleaffans.com

I can't prove that God is real from a very scientific point of view. But let me share a very well known and widely used, I don't know, theory? maybe that is used by many Christians to prove the genuinity of God.

Think of the wind. You can't see it, you don't know where it comes from, you can really touch it, but you know it there. Why? Because you can feel the effects of it, you can see the results of it, such as a hurricane. Even though you can't see it, you can't disprove that its not there since you can feel it. Same with God. You can't see God. Can't touch Him, can't talk to Him face to face, etc. But I know He's there because I can feel Him. I can't help to believe. I can feel Him in my heart, I can see His works and what He does through, by, and for ppl. I can see Him through His creation. When I'm alone in my room feeling utterly helpless and no ones with me, I can feel Him. He gives me peace and reassurance. I can't argue with that. Nor can I prove it with science.

Talking about the LOTR. Tolkien says that its fiction. Thats the difference the Bible says its the all Truth.

HeartBrokenBrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

(the question presented; So, who does god have sex with in order to create?
I am not trying to be offensive, you are the one equating sex with creation.So by this explanation, in order for creationism to be true, god must have sex. )

so when sperm meats an egg and an embryo is made what is it? really I want to know what it is to you.is it evoltuion or have you and your wife created life? second God is not in a box and he connot be explained with logic.he created logic and therefor is not bound by or confined to the limmits of logic.

xtreme_x #fundie flyleaffans.com

I was an atheist but God does exist and I believe what is true. There are people who don't care about what is true and they believe what makes themselves feel good. My Viking ancestors followed that belief system.

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While I was an atheist I studied evolution and the probability of life occurring by accident is so close to zero that Hinduism is more logical than Darwinian Evolution. I quit being an atheist. I began to look for proof that God exists in the same way I sought proof for Darwinism. Some Pagan religions see miracles happen in addition to the miracles we are familiar with that happen today in Christianity and miracles recorded in The Bible. I saw that miracles do occur thus there IS a spiritual realm and I looked into that.

I have studied MANY different religions; even practiced some. Christianity has logical proof {Krishna turns 1000 women into sacred cows doesn't seem logical} Historical proof, and archaeological proof. That's why I am a Christian.

xtreme_x #fundie #homophobia flyleaffans.com

Those who see the natural inclination of people to judge others harshly are correct. People try to force their favorite form of dress on others in the name of religion the same way homosexuals try to force homosexuality into Christianity in the name of being "nonjudgmental" the problem is the misinterpretation of The Bible.

I will begin out a bit from the question at hand to give a better understanding of the amount of reading necessary to understand some passages of The Bible.

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Also mentioned in I Corinthians 11 is that men should have short hair and again there is a specific reason for this. In Corinth there was a pagan religion that told men to act like women and women to act like men thus promoting homosexuality in the orgies used to worship the deity

Gideon #fundie flyleaffans.com

The sun has gives off ultraviolet rays
doesn't it?
And it has been proven that humans in fact, need the nutrients
of these rays in order have healthy skin, and so on. But when
a human has too much UV, the effects have proved harmful. Knowing
this however, He decided to create the ozone layer and a magnetic
field to shield us from such radiation. Also, while the
earth rotates it is slightly tilted as it hangs, and with good
reason: If that tilt was even 1 degree higher or lower than it is now
earth would suffer through unstable seasonal change, orbital change,
and much more... also making it impossible for us to live on it.
As we know, scientists do not just analyze they also have
the ability to create; a scientist does not only make observations.
So God therefore that would make God a perfect scientist
because he knows everything and can create anything
(like the examples shown above) perfectly, unlike us human scientists.
And so you see, God uses logic even for these basic things. Did that make sense?

Future~Rockstar #fundie flyleaffans.com

[mood: angry topic: the golden compass]

oh my gosh! do not go see the golden compass. It was created by atheist. its actually a book series in the last book kids kill God. i kinda have a question that i cant figure out. If their supposed to be atheist how did kids kill god? i mean thats stupid. and what the crap? why would you want to be atheist i mean gosh thats so freakin stupid!

John.L #fundie flyleaffans.com

I have heard a lot of people, pastors, and other christians ect say this and I agree. Jesus Christ was the only God who died to save humanity from sin. Did Allah die to save the world? Did buddah die for his followers? No. Christianity is the only religion(although I dont really like using the '"R" word) where a God would love his creation so much that he would come to this Earth and suffer like he did and be nailed on a cross you, me, and every soul on the planet. Just one more thing, Christianity is a relationship with God. Not a religion. Nor do I consider myself religous. Instead I have a relationship with the one true God.
Jonathon

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

ok whats really funny about this part of the subject is this.no matter what you do you can't get away from what God intended.it doesn't matter if it's 2 women or 2 men there is always one who plays the part of the women and one who plays the part of the man.I work at a subway and 2 women lovers came in and it was really weird cause the one who was playing the girl was really ugly and very manly looking but the one playing the man looked like she could be really hot if she would let her hair grow out and act like a girl.I mean if the gender roles are going to be there why not just go with the real thing?

BIANCAROSE #fundie flyleaffans.com

Also tracks (hooves) of horses were found in the same rocks that dinosaurs were found. So wouldn't that support more of what the bible says(that they were put here at the same time) instead of what earlier paleontologists said in support of their whole evolution theory(that dinasours were here millions of years before horses)?

The diagrams that are illustrated in textbooks show the horse to have once had four toes and to slowly develope into a hoof. But that would contradict the fossil records mentioned above. Even evolution scientist of today call those diagrams of the horse "a comple deception". Anyways regardless of that if a 3 toed horse evolved into a one toed horse then whey are there still 3 toed horses? Horses just have a huge genetic range.

I just do not get the theory. It is always contradicting itself. It's crazy sometimes I think that evolutionist have to live with a bigger faith than Christians HAHA. ;)

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

your flaw here is that you can't repete that process. dogs and wolves DNA are almost identical where as human and ape DNA are only slightly simillare.FYI dirt and Humans have genetic info in common. what does that tell you about where we came from? all i can tell you is that it wasn't from uncle ape man or grampa humanimal. wolves and dogs can breed humans and apes cannot.your problem is the same as most others like you. you have chosen not to believe what evidence is really out there and have chosen to believe in someone elses self claimed evidence.before you make any other such claims as but our ancestors are apes just like Wolfs & dogs please do an in deapth study of biology.cause this is just sad.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

[a home schooled creationist kid's rant]

I don't need sources. I've studied this myself. my thoughts are original. you only regergitate whats bin cramed down your throat. the fact that you need a source for somethings just shows how little you really know about biology and I will show you whee one of these is in these very posts.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

they might but really the whole allowing women to vote was a huge mistake in this way.it caused families to be separated.if a man was going to vote he voted for his whole family not just himself so he consulted his family about who to vote for and when women were given the right to vote this stopped.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

([on being gay]And if it really is against Gods will, why do you care? Your not the one going aginst it. We are.)
REPLY:
the highest command in the Bible above all others is to protect life.the thing you need to understand is that we care about you as human beings made in the image of God and would like to see you conduct yourselves as such.not go around spreading disease and harming kids. yes it is statistically proven that almost all child molestations are by homosexuals.

Epelep #fundie flyleaffans.com

Also by drinking, open doors for demons to come in and slowly take control.
Ever heard of 'The Spirit Of Addiction'?

This is exactly how these demons work, and thats also why most people can't stop smoking.

So the best thing is just to stay away from these things and walk the clean road with God!

Gideon #fundie flyleaffans.com

No He did not want to trick us because God is not an author of confusion. My point IS that He knew exactly why He made us the way He did and like the other one here pointed out (think it was Grant, could be wrong though) was that it would be strange anyway if God made people without stomachs, legs, or other functions like that, because they work just the way they are, and it would be unnecessary to create a human without these or to add more things than what already exists on us (like wings or eyesight as good as an eagle's). Such examples earlier however of useless body parts such as the former "tail" or a spleen have been proven to have useful functions, even if some of them are not vital.

BIANCAROSE #fundie flyleaffans.com

[what's the difference between a psycho ward and church again???]

Yes Satan attacks us all out of nowhere. He knows when I am awake I am strong and he often tries to get me in my dreams. There have been times I have had to wake myself up and rebuke him. Let me tell you that satan is out to seek kill and destroy. We have to fight! He is not worth it!

Brad #fundie flyleaffans.com

Not sure if I submitted this one or not :D

[in response to this - Think i'm wrong? Show me your evidence that T-rex where vegetarians]

well by looking at their teeth you can tell that they are perfect for sawing trees insuch ( just like a saw) and the fact that the only thing ever found on them has been vegetable matter.if you think I'm wrong then prove it.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

[ in response to this - Wrong. Even if you culd disprove evolution, this does not mean creationism is true. (especially young earth creationism, which is refutted by logic alone) ]

[..]and by the way logic has everything to do with young earth creationism.please stop presenting these lies all over the web.I have ignored alot but you are going to mislead lots of people so I'm going to start calling you on it.

Gideon #fundie flyleaffans.com

What do you mean "no organism evolves on it's own"? Isn't that the point of macroevolution? That we come out of nowhere as a pile of goo that swims into the ocean, turns into a fish, crawls onto land, grows legs, grows hair, and all other human features?

Oh yeah, and I've been waiting to ask you something since you know so much, how could an event so accidental cause organisms that can (intelligently perhaps) randomly multiply and randomly select the right aspects of itself (Survival of the fittest) correctly each time it did it until it evolved into what we are today and then randomly decide that it no longer needed to evolve?

I know you say you have fossils and all that kind of evidence to prove your point but can you prove how such an event could happen? Lucky organisms?

skillet dude #fundie flyleaffans.com

[FEEEEEEEL THAT CHRISTIAN LOVE!!!]

jesus says in the bible homosexuality is disgusting, and that it makes god vomit. that is what the bible says, and for you to deny that is shutting you away from god's blessing. i hate that people accept people for being gay,i know your suppoesed to love them, but you need to tell them that they are terriblly wrong in their walk with god. god never makes a man to have an attraction to another man, you pervert your mind to have an attraction to another man. how could you do that to your lord, how could you do that. he told you not to, and yet you deny and go your own way.. trust me, you will regret what you are doing...

~dude

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

I have a question for you.how do you feal about inocent people being disected,gassed,skinned alive andhaving their skin used to make lamp shades,breaded like animals and worse things that I don't even want to speak of?

(Response: I feel sick, and revolted, and feel that we need to try and catch the kinds of people that do these things, and get them out of our society.)

then you can start with evolutionists.evolution was a key thing in naziism.

Nate_paine #fundie flyleaffans.com

to believe or not
One thing that bothers me, are atheists. and it is nothing personal. i have had atheist freinds, they are great people. but what bothers me is the thought that there is no god or higher being period. I mean look around do you really think that all of this just happened. I Know humans are smart but come on. seriously. and if you look into the supernatural and conspiracy theories and all that stuff, there are just way to many "coincidences" for them to actually be coincedences. there has to be something bigger, something out there.

which leads me to my next point. if you compare all the major religions, christianity comes out on top. it is simple. it all boils down to leading a good life. Which is where the bible comes in. many people have theorized that the bible is just a novel that was written to inspire us. you know like "what's the moral of the story" i don't agree with that. but what could it hurt, to think that way. Holy potatoes, A historical document, and a book that makes people change their lifes, and give everything bad, for a life of happiness, joy, and peace. I'd buy it, wait i did.

sorry i ranted. it happens. oh, also there is good bible out there, called "The Message" it is written in modern language, and reads kinda like a novel. i recomend it.

Grant Stanley #fundie flyleaffans.com

You're right nate, Christianity and religion are separate and distinct. Christianity focuses on a relationship with Jesus and obedience to him, not to be some yes-man drone in a church.

I think you will find in all religions people that follow the religion and don't really know what they are doing. They are naive and follow what the higher-ups tell them, it's kinda sad really. People are looking for hope, love, and peace and they get taken advantage of-"well if the pope says so then I guess it's true."

There are however people in every religion that are true adherents that are not naive or ignorant. We should be careful in our judgments of who is and isn't a "true" follower. Maybe it's more like who is guided properly and who is misguided.

All I know is the day I accepted Jesus Christ into my life all that emptiness was filled. I no longer need to go out and seek worldly things to fill the hole that was in me.

Gideon #fundie flyleaffans.com

I know the evidence; even if a human's DNA is 98% identical to an ape (or any other type of animal like that) it doesn't disprove the fact that God created everything. And considering that He did make everything and that He has all-power, why couldn't He make us identical to an ape while we still could be different from them? And what in the Bible HASN'T been recently proved as reliable?!

And I also agree with Goku and everyone else who has said that God could make the Earth look as old as He wanted to while it stays only 10,000 years old or a trillion years old?!

[..] But it all boils down to this:

Everything that exists was created by God. God IS a scientist, and He made things very complex and with purpose.

I don't remember the name (sorry) but remember the principle (not created by Christians or Creationists) that determined that nothing can exist without something else; this principle is just as solid as gravity and applies especially to Creation.

That means in a nutshell that you couldn't evolve because in order to do so you would have to lose the most vital parts of yourself (like parts of your DNA/RNA!) overtime in order to gain a new one, which is not possible because your body would simply stop functioning altogether.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

I know it's from a movie but it's true.with grate power comes grate responsebility and vice versa.

also women don't want to be = they want to be better.thats the simple fact of the matter.why is it that boys are no longer aloud to be boys in schools?why do they get expeled for pretending that they are soldures fighting in a war.thats not harmful it's just boy.but the teachers would rather them play tea party because thats what girls do.the whole society is becoming more ad more sisafighed.men are not better they are just different.we have different God given roles.like war.it has been time tested and proven that when women are on the battle field it's nothing but bad luck.not because they can't do it( though that is a big part of it) but because the men do as God create them to do and leave their primary mission to go and protect the women.not because they are weaker but because they are to be treasured.when the Bible reffers to women as"the weaker vessel" it has the meaning of something that is treasured.

[another user's quote - But meanwhile, we have a woman who is running for president.]

which is a huge mistake.

2handbrandvocalist #fundie flyleaffans.com

there is no such thing in my book as a christian/darwinist!!!!!! You HAVE to choose in a Creator or an organism as for me I only have one Creator!!!! i DO NOT believe i came from a protozoa or an ape!!!!!! sorry to affend but thats how it is for me!!!!! I will stand up and praise my Jesus!!!!!
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Jesus does the most work on you when your broken ..... so Jesus break me and make me brand new!!!!

*Kristyn Nichole*

Strawberryomlet #fundie flyleaffans.com

Christianity is my relationship with Jesus, my savior, not a religion... its almost a offensive to be called a religion.

[..]

truly free will had messed everything up for us... without free will Adam and Eve would have been perfect which would have made us perfect.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

He only wants to take all guns away from citizens,raze taxes and at the same time putting people out of their jobs,is loved by the worst commie national leaders in the world,has a racist and biggoted pastor who was his spiritual mentor, is in very tight with a teroroist,and admited himself to being a muslum. he was sure the best choice for the destruction of the constitution.it's funny how the very state that gave us the man who violated the constitution in the worst way in history.(abraham linkoln) is now the state that is giving us one who will do the very same all over again.

[..]how many of them voted for obama? I'm hearing it all over the news now. people saying they voted for obama and that they praise jesus christ. thats what we call an oximoron.

[..]so basically my anallisis was right[..]read the 7 things that are an obamanation to god.the things that God hates.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

[In response to science not dealing in absolute proof]

then it is unreliable.you say that evolution is science and that creation is not. well guess what mark? if that is true and that science doesn't deal in absolutes is also true then creation holds more validity then evolution because evolution doesn't deal in absolutes.the thing is that it does. gravity is an absolute. if you drop something it will fall.

[next response to being YEC and denying physics, chemistry, geology, biology, etc]

ummm mark I've already used all of those fields to pawn you. every single one of them disproves evolution. but I must remember that you didn't really learn those but whatever your teachers wanted to call those.

Heartbrokenbrad #fundie flyleaffans.com

[ "So your saying if a baby is born with four fingers we should cut one of the fathers fingers off?" this is about when a man hits a pregnant woman in the stomach ]

no. you punish the man that hurt the mother. if it happens to be the father then yes.see God cares about all life and the idea here is that the punishment should fit the crime.

why do you think women are "unclean" while in their period? because the unfertilized egg was a potential life and thus it is the same as a baby that died. the hebrew word used for that kind of "uncleaness" is the same word used for corps contamination. a man is also "unclean" if he has any kind of unatural discharges.because the sperm was a potential life.

I think it's funny the semantics that so called "scientists" use today.they say "it isn't a live baby, it's a fetus". they don't mention that the word fetus means little baby.[..]

thats their whole reasoning as to why it's ok to kill babies. "because it isn't really alive so you aren't actually killing." the problem is that a "fetus" meats all 4 of the critirea necessary to be considered alive. so according to science a fetus is alive.

the amazing LukeeD #fundie flyleaffans.com

The theory of the Big Bang that I have known all about, most my life states that: In the Beginning there was a little dot that nobody knows how it got there but it had all the matter of the entire universe crammed into it and the tiny dot couldn't handle it all and so BOOM it exploded with a big bang and everything in the universe is came into being everything you see and it kind of ties in with evolution. I would rather just trust the Bible, it says 6 days and I believe it, the original word used in that instance( I don't remember what language) is YOM and it means a 24 hour period, and it is also used when it refers to Jonah in the whale, Jesus when he fasted in the desert and several other instances. I can show you more examples when I find the book that talks about it. I believe that you are pretty strong rooted Christian but I believe the WHOLE Bible and it WAS six literal days. I get most of my apologetics resources(including that book) from AnswersInGenesis.org I also just want to say that science and the Bible go together no matter what people say.

BloodRedBlizzard #fundie flyleaffans.com

I hope this question doesn't offend either of you, but would you be angered if there were straight-pride rallies and parades?

[and her next response after someone told her that the question is just like asking blacks if they would be angered by white pride celebrations]

I just think gay pride is silly. But I think all pride is silly. Silly is a stupid word but it illustrates stupidity in a way other words cannot.