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RobRoy #fundie freerepublic.com

>>I’m not an atheist, but how does the author know an atheist cannot console in a time of grief, explain love, or sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises?<<

It is simple. It is their core “what is life” paradigm that eliminates the possibility of being uplifting during such times.

Utterly and completely impossible - unless they are not being true to their own beliefs.

But then, I’ve never met a real athiest. I’ve met plenty that claim to be, but when questioned further, every single one of them backpedaled and admitted they were really more “agnostic”.

Wanna see how a REAL atheist would act? Rent Natural Born Killers.

P-Marlowe #fundie freerepublic.com

[How would an atheist console someone who has lost a child?]

"I am incapable of accuratedly knowing what an atheist would say. Perhaps something like..’be thankful that your child is at peace, or is no longer in pain’...something like that."

An athiest would be incapable of saying such a thing without betraying his atheism. As to "no longer in pain" who said anything about pain? What if the child just dropped dead or was hit by a car or drowned in a pool?

Logically with an attitude like that, the Atheist should be walking through hospital wards with a AK-47.

wintertime #fundie freerepublic.com

Our nation's MOST serious and important threat is MARXISM! Homosexuality is merely part of the Marxist plan.

I have often posted that islamofascism is NOT our nation's most serious threat. We can survive a nuclear suitcase bomb. Didn't we lose an entire city to a hurricane? Didn't we survive?

Government schools (especially K-12) are the Marxists most dangerous and effective weapon against freedom. Homosexuality is part of the Marxist indoctrination process whose goal is destruction of the family.

I Still Care #fundie freerepublic.com

[Story: A Jewish family has to move because of an anti-Semetic backlash due to a lawsuit against a school that promoted Christianity in public school]


I have no sympathy for people like this. They were upset because they had to listen to Christian prayers.

They make a huge mess, sue the school, raise everyone’s taxes, interfere with the majority’s religious expression and then whine people don’t like them. They used their eleven year old a wedge to get the judgement and then get upset when kids point him out as the “kid that’s suing Jesus”.

Now they get money from everyone and have to move. And they have the g**** nerve to be self-righteous. I bet they voted to raise people’s school taxes every chance they got too.

[The whole thread is just as ugly]

Isrul #fundie freerepublic.com

[Thread: A 14-year-old kid shoots a transsexual 15-year-old, from behind, in the head]

The sick freak didn't belong in school. He belonged in a mental institution. So do his "parents". As far as the degenerates wanting to crucify a 14 year old child for this; I would expect nothing less from them.
If the situation were reversed and the freak had killed the straight kid, they would have a million excuses why the freak shouldn't be punished.

The kid should not be tried as an adult.

The administration should be put on trial for letting such abominable sick costume displays n school. When kids are allowed to act out their pathologies, nothing good results.

Muawiah #fundie freerepublic.com

[Thread: 15-year-old transsexual shot in the head, from behind, by a 14-year-old]

His daily parade of his sexuality through the use of clothing, make up and so forth is, in fact, harrassment.
Remember, these kids are forced by state law to attend these schools. It's the school's choice to inflict sexual offense on the kids.

Obviously one young child was harrassed to the point he felt it necessary to defend himself with a firearm.

GodGunsGuts #conspiracy freerepublic.com

If we win on this one we win huge. First, we will have exposed the public health movement for what it is. Second, poeple we become far more skeptical of scientists. Third, we will expose how they used AIDS to push their anti-family, pro-homosexual, pro-drug abuse agenda in our public schools. Etc, etc, etc.

Like I said, if we win this one, we WIN BIG.

PS Can you imagine if the AIDS scandal and the human caused global warming scandal were to be exposed at the same time?!?!?

sub-driver #fundie freerepublic.com

A poll conducted last year showed that two-thirds of Americans believe in creationism, or the theory that God created humans at a single point in time, while 53 percent believe that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life -- the theory of evolution.

Editor-Surveyor #fundie freerepublic.com

["If you honestly think that the depiction of dinosaur-like creatures in art indicates that dinosaurs and humans coexisted..."]

It has been proven to rational, intelligent people, beyond a shadow of doubt, that dynos and humans have coesisted.

["do you also believe dragons must have existed because they are frequently depicted in Asian art?"]

Most depictions of 'dragons' in asian art are stylized plesiosaurs; few question that observation. As to whether they indicate that humans and plesiosaurs coexisted, there have been several carcases of plesiosaurs dragged up in fishing nets, and photographed. Links to those photos have been posted here many times in the past.

Your belief system is based in denial; life is tough.

Editor-Surveyor #fundie freerepublic.com

["But they do recognize that almost all progress in civilization comes from science and a President who doesn’t believe in evolution (or atomic theory or acids and bases or electromagnetic theory or any core science) would never be able to set the right priorities."]

This is one of gondramB's standard strawmen. Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science, and gondramB knows it. Nothing of value has ever come from evolution or its promotion. The vast majority of scientific advances have been by, or at the direction of creationists, and without them we would all have to work much harder.

If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%.

Editor-Surveyor #fundie freerepublic.com

["When you or your family members go to the doctor, do you get antibiotics developed to treat drug-resistant bacteria, or do you insist that because evolution doesn't exist you should be just fine with the drugs from twenty years ago?"]

Frankly, I would never take an antibiotic; there are far safer and more effective treatments, but all that aside, nothing that you mention above has the slightest connection to evolution. You are propagandising by attempting to mix evolutionism with biochemistry.

Fennie #conspiracy freerepublic.com

Serge Monast, a Canadian journalist, stepped forward in 1994 to speak of research he and another investigator had gathered on NASA's Project Blue Beam. It seems Project Blue Beam is a four step program to implement the New World Order's new age, one world religion. It begins with engineered earthquakes and hoaxed discoveries to facilitate the reevaluation of all archeological knowledge, designed to call all belief systems into question. Before we dismiss the idea that earthquakes can be engineered, we should look into the capabilities of the HAARP antenna in Alaska...

Earthdweller #fundie freerepublic.com

Is there an Islamic man wiling to give a woman her rights after seeing what has happened in the West?
Nah..only Christian men are benevolent enough to change abuse against women and then have those same women turn against them when they are given power. In our world, the femi-nazi movement will be declared obsolete by other women, then and only then will life become better for women in the ME.

Roamer_1 #fundie freerepublic.com

I think technological advancement is driven by demonic forces, and always has been; their motive being to oppose Almighty God with the force available right here on this earth where they have been trapped among us. Our literal dependence on that technology drives us away from what God had intended and causes us to become calloused to the miraculous evidences of God by our reliance on false miracles.

HelloooClareece #fundie freerepublic.com

I think we should destroy Ancient Babylon (Iraq) just in case Ahmadinejad is fighting to bring the Apocapalyse through a Holy war,

or.....

Destroy Ancient Babylon just in case Ahmadinejad is trying to rebuild the caliphate,(Iraq being the historical capital).

In other words, I'm cool with staying the course.

yankeesdoodle #fundie freerepublic.com

Oh, and also, you’ll notice that for the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, no rain falls on the earth. So that water is being evaporated to reform the firmament. God will be rebuilding the earth. Earth will be sharply rotated, jolted, so that the mountains will be broght low and the valleys raised up (from the rotational forces, the earth will be flattened to prepare it for world-wide agriculture). The earth is going to be made into a giant garden. In order to do that, everything has to change. With the vapor canopy, the firmament reinstated, radiation from the sun will be partially blocked so that people’s life spans will be muchg greater than they are now. The Bible says that a sinner will die at the age of 100 and be called a child. One of the reasons we die so young, is because we have a very thin atmosphere, and pukey ozone layer. Our shields are almost down. Like I said, the “curses” of the tribulation are just God’s way of turning the earth back into a garden. The seas will vanish, as John said there were no more seas. A LOT of landmass is going to be freed up. We will no longer need the seas, which are salt water (antiseptic) to filter our air and water, the earth will be in perfect balance and that will no longer be needed.

P8triot #fundie freerepublic.com

What I don’t understand is professing Christians who still hold to evolution, and an old earth, when the Bible clearly states that there was no death before Adam sinned. They pick and choose the parts of scripture they wish to believe, and just so they won’t have to defend their faith (if they have any at all), or to be accepted by their worldly friends, they compromise with a lie that denies the Word of God.

yankeesdoodle #fundie freerepublic.com

God is very clear on the fact that humans get 6000 years to attempt to rule ourselves. This is the six days of man. The Bible teaches that to God, in 2Peter 3:8, “a day is like a 1000 years.” And on the 7th day, the 7th 1000 year period, we get our rest, when Lord Jesus returns. I suspect we are very close to our 6000th year, but not quite. You would have to leave 7 years out for the tribulation, so at the very very latest, we could be in the year 5993, by God’s reckoning. It’s so hard to tell what year we are in from creation, since the calendar has changed so many times, also, since the day of creation, I suspect that the earth’s rotation has slowed quite a bit. Notice that during the tribulation, the Bible teaches that the “days will be shortened by a third”, which means that instead of a 24 hour day, we will have 16 hour days. God tells us that unless this shortening occurred, then we’d all perish. He will shorten the days so that the 7 years of the tribulation will be shortened. Perhaps the earth will accelerate on her axis after being struck by what the bible calls a “flaming rock from the Heavens” (space), which “blazes like a torch”, obviously a comet.

yankeesdoodle #fundie freerepublic.com

Matthew 24: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened

I’ve always loved that verse because over and over again, we are told that the earth will go through horrible punishment for 7 years, during the Tribulation, but, like any loving parent, God finds a way to shorten our suffering, so that we will indeed go through 7 years of punishment, just that some of that punishment will occur with 16 hour days. I suspect that at the time of the creation of the earth, the earth rotated at that speed. 16 hour days may be what God designed at first.

AndyTheBear #fundie freerepublic.com

Its a shame we show petty intolerance for Muslims in the West. We should be a little more sensitive to Muslim values and openly show gross intolerance toward them instead. This means they should be second class citizens, should be forced to pay a special tax, anyone converting from one of our belief systems to Islam should be beheaded. And being that we currently have the military might to conquer, raid, and enslave the Islamic world we should certainly do so (while deceptively talking peace to gain tactical advantage if applicable). After all, this is how Islam demands they treat the rest of us. So by doing so, we would be showing them greater respect.

Jim35 #fundie freerepublic.com

["Show me some proof, some facts." ]

OK, take all the proof, and all the facts that your favorite scientists have already used to convince you that life was all one big coincidence. Now, draw the only plausible conclusion from all that evidence; life had to have been created, purposely, by a creator. Life is found everywhere, all over the world, even in the darkest, most inhospitable regions of the ocean floor, so it must be VERY EASY to make, right? If it's so abundant, as it is, then making some should be a lead-pipe-cinch. Heck, it's hard to keep the stuff at bay! So, go ahead. Take any non-living materials you want, and create some life. Take your time. Take 6 days, if you want.

Cottshop #fundie freerepublic.com

[If radiocarbon dating is only good for 50,000 year-old specimens, or younger... how do we get the ages of older specimens? I can see where we can extrapolate ages of geological formations from what is in each layer, etc, but how do we know, for example, how old a rock is?]

They don't know- Carbon dating is uselss past about 4000 years (not 50,000 as asserted by advocates) due to several factors as I've laid out previously- Coyote evidently found a 'Christian' who has bout into the lies yet ingores the evidences presented that show WHY carbon dating AND the 'other' methods coyote claims are used with accuracy are infact innacurate- But argue with him if ya like- He'll simply keep posting the same stuff as though there were no evidences showing the innacuracies of dating methods, and present his links as though none of the innacuracies really matter.

Jim35 #fundie freerepublic.com

["Studies of the DNA code support evolution." ]

And studies of DNA code support creationism. It is such a complex system of information, and requires such an amazing organization make it work, that it couldn't possibly be mere random molecules, acting in a random fashion. If life is so easy, try making some, using only non-living materials, then get back to me. Hey, if DNA is just a bunch of molecules, then get a bucket of those molecular components, and let's see how much DNA you get from it.

Cottshop #fundie freerepublic.com

(Regarding Ken Ham's creation science museum in Petersburg, Kentucky)

He is going ot be crucified mercilessly by the 10 billion year old advocates. I studied under Ken Ham at a 1 year bible college, and he has taken a LOT of flack for his science- but that's the way of hte left- ostracize and ridicule anyone that dissagrees with you- calling them psuedo-scientists in a nasty attempt to try to discount their facts. Hopefully htough, his museum will plant a few seeds that will sprout eternal life.

HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity #fundie freerepublic.com

(Da huh?)

["I am attacking God, all gods, anything and everything supernatural, wherever and whenever they have been or will be invented," declares Dr. Dawkins]

It's simply amazing to see the bizarre extremist antics to which atheists are driven by masturbation anxiety.

No NORMAL person spends that much time worrying about people reading the Bible.

Jim35 #fundie freerepublic.com

Yep. When dealing with some evolutionist fanatics, especially the strongly anti-Christian faction, you are expected to prove every assertion, no matter how obvious, while they sit back watch. If you tell them the sun rises in the east, they ask for a specific scientific, peer-reviewed, published article, with a list of the writer's credentials. Then they make some sneering comment referring to your belief in a flat Earth.

Continental Soldier #fundie freerepublic.com

Hey, women, wake up! Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes. Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative. Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women. Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.' Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity.

Turret Gunner A20 #fundie freerepublic.com

[I know the creationist websites keep claiming that, but they have been known to distort, misrepresent, and selectively quote, as well as to ignore evidence which contradicts their beliefs.

If you are looking for accurate portrayals of what science is discovering, creationist websites should not be high on your list of sources. ]

Of course the evolutionist's web sites are the epitomy of truth and accuracy, aren't they?

HOGWASH! The very same can be said for evolutionist web-sites. A large segment of the evolutionist community is made up of a bunch of scared, grant-begging frauds who have cornered the market on a nice sounding theory, shown that it looks kinda logical, and will damned well brook no interference with their claims of having proven it as THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN.

And they do not hesitate to publish a bunch of lying, twisted twaddle to keep the scam going and the cash cow mooing.

Scientists?? True scientists do not arbitrarily call any and all other theories or hypotheses un-scientific without adequately backing up the claim. They do not claim that there is no way that other ideas may even be a part of what they are observing and investigating. No, they have staked their claim on the whole field -- claiming anyone who seriously advances an opposing theory to be either a deluded fool or an outright charlatan.


I'm sure glad I'm not that closed-minded.


TenthAmendmentChampion #fundie freerepublic.com

[How about you? What kind of evidence would convince you that life on Earth reached its present state via evolutionary common descent?]

I don't see any reason to believe in evolution since God in His infallable Word said He created the world in six days. That's the basis for the seven day week; the fall of Adam is the basis for salvation in Jesus Christ; the provision of a man and a woman is the basis for one man-one woman marriage. God said that's how He did it. Only if God gives me another reason revealed in scripture would I consider believing in evolution.

The secular humanism I've seen promulgated by people convinced we were not created has wrought the evils of relativism, nihilism, hopelessness, lack of purpose, etc. I'm glad you're not saying God doesn't exist.

I'll take your remark about a copyright message or email as a joke. Ha ha. I don't think this would happen (but then God has surprised us before. Imagine him creating the nation of the United States in the late 1700s so we would be the future protectors of His modern nation of Israel!).

Peter J. Marshall #fundie freerepublic.com

What kinds of public policies do we evangelical Christians want to see take place in America today? A quick and by no means exhaustive list would include things like: a general prohibition of abortion; the allowance of prayer in public schools; the rejection of embryonic (not adult) stem-cell research; the Federal prohibition of homosexual marriage (either by law or by an admendment to the Constitution); further restrictions on pornography; a tightening of obscenity laws in movies and television; vigorous law enforcement against pedophiles both on the Internet and in the society at large; the replacement of sex education programs for students with abstinence-based programs; putting an end to the tyranny of Darwinian evolution teaching in public schools such that the flaws in evolutionary theory and creation science would at least get equal consideration; and stopping the Federal court system's twisting of the First Amendment to find some supposed "separation of Church and State" that in turn is used to remove all public expression of the Christian faith from American society.

Those of some of the things we want.

Cvenger #fundie freerepublic.com

FWIW, there is a moral imperative for commanders to mandate Christian exposure of their personnel on active duty.

Recent ecumenical perspectives fail to recognize the significance of God the Holy Spirit in the continuing sanctification of each and every believer, every day and moment of their lives. Many worldly officers believe they are able to substitute a worldly system of counterfeit belief independent of faith through Christ and still advance in good works. Such thinking is good for nothingness, not only jeopardizing the sanctification and spiritual growth of their juniors, but also placing their commands at risk of divine discipline, being in the wrong place at the wrong time on the battlefield which is deadly.

IMHO, if our commander-in-chief was remaining in fellowship through Christ in all things, he would relieve those in the chain of command who seek such counterfeit substitutes to God’s Plan and place the US armed forces at risk, without divine guidance through faith in Christ.

Iam1Rul-2 #fundie freerepublic.com

Great Gobs Of Gooey Green Gorilla Guts (GGGGGG). The more evilutionists try to explain their THEORY, the more they discover that evilution is IMPOSSIBLE!!, but because they don't want to be accountable to a Creater God and His laws, statutes, commandments and covenants, they will deny the truth of Intelligent Design even when it's staring them in the face. In the DVD Privileged Planet, it shows beyond any doubt the evilution is impossible because too many "coincidences" would have had to taken place.
When we were kids we were told that a frog turned into a prince, and then we were told that it was just a fairytale, but in school we were told it was evilution.


Lightbeam #fundie freerepublic.com

(On the Philip Atkinson article on FSM)

What exactly is crazy about what Mr. Atkinson is suggesting? He's actually framing a very common-sense principal: If democracy is destroying America then democracy needs to go.

And, personally, there are very few of us here on FR who wouldn't like to see the lands of Allah turned into a glass parking lot. In fact, I'm saving a bottle of non-alcoholic champagne for when it happens.

CottShop #fundie freerepublic.com

There is truly nothing new under the sun- these atheist liberal dolts think they're being novel in their approach to villify Christianity? Here's a wake-up call God-Deniers- you've failed for centuries and will continue to fail right up until the point the Christ returns to paint the streets with your spilled blood.

jmyrlefuller #fundie freerepublic.com

(In Response to: Who should I support........that sick pro-abortion Giuliani ........ or Romney the Mormon ....... or McCain the enemy of free speech .... or Fred Thompson the “Empty Suit” ..... or that Big Strong Texan, Ron Paul.)

Yeah, that's real classy... go after a guy's religion. Unless he's a Muslim or an overt atheist, there's no reason for that kind of an attack.

Jim35 #fundie freerepublic.com

[”It is usually a direct result of some statement which displays a lack of science eduction(sic)...”]
You cherry-pick those quotes that you find the most objectionable, but you have a tendency to ignore the bigger questions, or the more coherent statements.

For instance, what is the origin of life, from which all other life sprang?

Did only one organism start all present forms of life, from amoebae to whales? Or did several different primordial organisms form around the same time, spawning the diversity that is the hallmark of our world?

Is life still being spontaneously generated, or was that only possible a couple of billion years ago?

When most of life was extinguished during one or another extinction episode, did it all start over again from another primordial ooze, or did the few life-forms left over become the ancestors of all present life?

What type of evolution is responsible for the presence of non-living matter? Of energy? Of cosmic forces, etc?

Is it really possible for a species to become suited to its environment through a random process of mutation?

Etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. To believe that all that exists merely came about through some random process more than strains credulity, it rips it to shreds

Cowboy Bob #fundie freerepublic.com

Smoking causes Cancer. Therefore, smoking is banned in many places buy the Government.

Homosexual behavior spreads AIDS. Therefore, behavior is protected by the Government.

No, I don't see any hypocrisy. /sarc

EndWelfareToday #fundie freerepublic.com


Question... How does anyone know that our Sun burns Hydrogen? Was a prob sent to the Sun to collect data? Is there a lab on the Sun that I’ve not heard of? How can anyone state with such certainty what the Sun does or does not burn with the limited knowledge we actually have about the Sun?

EndWelfareToday #fundie freerepublic.com

[The Sun converts hydrogen in to helium and then that gets converted into higher molecules. We know this from spectrophotometer observation of the sun.]

And what data are you using to compare the results found while using the spectrophotometer? Surely you are speculating that between here and the Sun there are no phenomena that could skew your results or perhaps you are speculating that there are no other gases or chemicals or ??? God only knows what that closely resembles the results junk-scientist claim to be fact isn't this correct?

Forgive me but I'm tired of egg-heads stating as fact "theories." Theories are nothing more than glorified hunches and until actual evidence (like a physical sample of the material burning on the Sun collected off the Sun) that's all this "hunch" will be.

I'd appreciate it if people would make their statements in an honest manner instead of trying to brainwash the general populace into supporting causes that are full of hot air.


rickdylan #fundie freerepublic.com

The basic system of life i.e. RNA/DNA is clearly the work of a single pair of hands, i.e. God’s. Moreover it is provable that macroevolution is unworkable. Nonetheless evidence suggests that the re-engineering of life forms was a cottage industry of some sort in the recent past of this planet and that more than one pair of hands was involved. God wouldn’t need 100 subtypes of horses and again there is no reasonable way to picture God having created biting flies and ticks.

Aquinasfan #fundie freerepublic.com

[When the Constitution was written, there was no mention of God, Jesus, the Bible or Christianity, save the ambigious matter of the date at the end. The idea of adding some such reference was considered, and was rejected rather resoundingly. We know this from the words of Luther Martin, a convention delegate who strongly advocated adding said reference.]

This was a fundamental error.

[Since then, America has become the greatest and most powerful nation the world has ever seen, and every other government in existance at the time has changed rather dramatically.]

There are many good things about America, including her social stability and wealth, but the worst thing about our country, besides the millions slaughtered in state-sanctioned abortions, is the rise of moral relativism, which can arguably be tied to the religious indifferentism that is central to our constitutional form of government.

[I would say that the objective evidence suggests that if one assumes that some deity who we can call God is involved in the state of our world, said Deity had no objection to said ommission.]

At the very least, God permitted the rise of the Roman Empire, the Ottoman empire, Hitler, Stalin and Mao. One cannot necessarily infer from earthly power God's blessing upon a nation.


razzle #fundie freerepublic.com

Don’t waste your time with these evo clowns, Tribune. They have lots and lots of religious stuff they want you to read but when all is said and done, their beliefs are no more scientific than the fortune teller at the country fair. They can’t even explain how a device as simple as a mousetrap could “evolve” via darwinism, let alone a complex structure like the eye.

Designed #fundie freerepublic.com


All of this may not matter much to you, but I have two earned degrees, one in biology and chemistry, and the other a DDS. I have INTENSELY studied the evolution-creation debate for about 35 years, and have read something like 250 books on both sides of the issue. I have come to the studied conclusion that evolution is junk science, sort of like man-made global warming. We have been told so many thousands of times, for so many years, that evolution is a fact. As a result many people who are basically uninformed have been brainwashed. You might look at some of the articles and archives at the Discovery Institute. You might want to read some of the offerings by Michael Denton. By the way, Dr. Ken Ham of the creation museum is INCREDIBLY well-informed.

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