The simple fact that there is intelligence on earth now means there had to have been intelligent design.
Even the simplest life forms on the planet have "intelligence". They consume energy in one form or another. They do things to surive, to maintain homeostasis. Why would they do that? How do they know how to do that? Why would they ever do it to begin with? To survive? How do they know what survival is? Why would these organisms even care if they survived? Why would they make an effort to survive?
Even macro evolution in and of itself would be strong evidence of intelligent design. Why would an organism get stronger? How does human skin know that a callus will protect it from abrasion injuries? How would life know to create antibodies to fight disease?
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With all respect to you Spaz, but the poster does have valid points. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't necessarily prove that there is or isn't God. It simply means that there has been no actual answers to the majority of the questions listed above.
To offer you an example, I can assure you that there are no definite answers of how exactly a bacterium has thought of reproduction.
In case you are wondering about my education; I have a Ph.d in Microbiology from VCU. Take it from someone who has 'been there and done that.' Don't mock what you don't understand. I myself am a skeptic when it comes to lots of things, but I respect the views of others on subjects to which I myself have no answer to.
Note how the original poster never even said anything about Jesus or anything about Christianity in general, which just goes to show that it was an obtuse comment made from your part.
P.S. This is the part where you state that, "I need to lighten up" and that your comment was, "merely a joke" to get out of the rather embarassing situation where you have been put in and attempt to direct attention away from yourself.
Hmm yes. You have a point. Except for the fact that you don't have a point. The organism isn't choosing to make X protein. Y DNA translates to Y mRNA and then come along ribosomes and all that other good stuff in the process due to the ways that atoms and molecules react automatically. Things react in certain ways because they do. Life is merely taking advantage of the physics of atoms.
And I believe the poster mentioned Intelligent Design on numerous counts. Tell me how that doesn't reference a god. Even the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism version of Intelligent Design has a Flying Spaghetti Monster god.
So far I have you on two counts. If you have a rebuttal, I'm eager to hear it. Perhaps atoms have quark based brains?
The thing to remember is that, in evolution, reasoning is not involved. You'd think that fundies would grasp this concept, since the same thing applies to them.
~David D.G.
Falls apart totally in the very first sentence: "The simple fact that there is intelligence on earth now means there had to have been intelligent design.
" Really? Howzabout this; The very fact that there was an intelligent designer means that something had to have designed it. And something had to have designed that. And something had to have... ad infinitum.
Besides, how does the fact that there is intelligent life here demand a designer?
We're waiting...
Speaking as a layman here, I would say that organic intelligence, as we experience it, is an experiment in evolution. A successful one, of course...
Consider the expenditures necessary to train and maintain the intellect, as well as the nutritional needs for an advanced central nervous system. The race forfeited thick hides, natural weapons, speed, strength, etc., to focus on intelligence.
The OP leads, by logical extension, that chloride ions are intelligent. Um, not. Just doing what comes naturally.
Intelligent design...what designer of *anything* ever achieved perfection with the prototype?
But if this hypothetical designer was as perfect as some claim, there would be no observable flaws in the finished product.
By random reactions and trial by error, which all folds into survival of the fittest. The 'unintelligent' species died out and where replaced by ones that could think.
You have a good question if you interject your belief's into an answer you are asking for. It's like asking what's 2+2, but it has to be a composite number because 2+2 doesn't equal 978?
They do things to surive, to maintain homeostasis. Why would they do that?
Because if they don’t do it, they die.
How do they know how to do that?
Because the ones that don’t know how, die.
Why would they ever do it to begin with?
Because the ones that did not begin with it wouldn’t procreate, and die.
To survive? How do they know what survival is? Why would these organisms even care if they survived? Why would they make an effort to survive?
The ones that did not care, died. The ones with an “in-built” urge to survive procreated, because, and this may surprise you, they did not die!
Seriously, how is that so hard to grasp a concept!?
Dearie; even really smart people seldom come up with a perfect plan on the first go. They test and discard what doesn't work, use what does work and test it with new things, and again discard what doesn't work. Kinda like how evolution works.
The organisms that doesn't care whether they live or die, will not survive for long.
Lots of organisms have gotten smaller through evolution, as the smaller versions fit better into the available niche.
The life that did not create antibodies to fight disease died from the disease. The life that did create antibodies to fight disease survived. Neither KNEW to create the antibodies, but the one who did survive went on to procreate and its offspring also created antiboides.
"The simple fact that there is intelligence on earth now means there had to have been intelligent design."
Aaaaaand... who designed the designer ...?!
You've just admitted that the film "2001: A Space Odyssey" is a documentary, and said 'designers' were vastly superior hyper-dimensional beings consisting of pure thought , who seeded this world, then placed the Monoliths on Earth, the Moon, & orbiting Jupiter as developmental accelerators. Erich von Daniken much, watcher(IQ)2.2?
Turtles all the way down, bub, turtles all the way down.
How do they know how to do that?
Much more importantly, how in the gee darn heck do waterfalls know how to throw their water downwards? Do they throw the water upwards only when no one is looking? But why do they care? And how do they care? I believe the answer to your question isn't very dissimilar to mine, and also that in that answer lies perhaps a truth or two about God.
Plants and animals don't consume energy to live. They live because they consume energy. If something in the garden doesn't consume energy we call it a "rock". They exist too.
Please learn a little about cause and effect before you ask more dumb questions.
Doesn't the intelligent designer need intelligent design as well? How would a deity know how to create a world?
Macro-evolution can also mean an organism getting smaller, if that is what the environment requires.
"Knowledge" doesn't have anything to do with it, it's usually instinct, reflexes, automatic muscle spasms, like the heart and lungs (imagine if we had to know that we had to breathe, to actively make the heart muscles move).
Mutations have happened, and some of them had favorable outcomes, so they stuck around.
...therefore the anime series "Heroic Age" is a documentary?:
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Therefore thank you for admitting that it was superior aliens who created us. Also your 'God'.
If Yuuko the Dimensional Witch and Clow Reed could create gods for other worlds, therefore...! [/CLAMP]
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