[ on a 17 year old boy who was raped by two HIV+ men after he passed out from drinking too much ]
The questions arise:
- was this a gay bar?
- if so what was a 17 year old doing there?
- age of consent in Spain? I believe 17, if not younger.
Conclusion, it is not beyond possibility that this young man is in part responsible for what happened. Thankfully he did not contract HIV. It is no credit to his savoir faire that he got himself into this situation. Although I could never approve of the action of the older men, if the young man is old enough (and stupid enough) to drink himself into oblivion, then he is old enough to accept a fair proportion of the blame for whatever the consequences may be. If he was not capable of controlling himself and the situation he was in, he should not have been out alone.
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Did the kid consent? No? It is rape.
Getting drunk > raping people.
Blame the rapists for raping. Not the rape victim for drinking too much and getting raped.
This is not a difficult quandary people.
Ugh, I really hate victim blaming.
The ones who did the raping are to blame. That's it.
Was he wearing a T-shirt? Levis? Was his hair combed, you know, real sexy like?Pffft He was practically begging for it. Probably a democrat, anyway.
HE DIDN'T CONSENT!
HAD HE CAUGHT THE DISEASE, THESE GUYS MAY HAVE MURDERED THIS BOY!
Let's put you in a room with two brutes with horrible sex-diseases and see what happens....
Link takes you to a fucking Stormfront story, couldn't link it back further from there.
Did it even happen? The Christards and Klanfans are notorious for making shit up, especially in 'other countries'. Maybe did but trust these wastes of skin to take it as far as they can towards stupid.
sav·oir faire
Someone putting themselves in a vulnerable situation where other people do bad things to them doesn't mean they themselves are to blame and the people doing bad things to them aren't. Doesn't matter if the rape victim is male or female.
It may not be very smart to put yourself in that situation, but the rapists are still to blame.
gay bar ? doesnt matter
a person who is unconcious cannot consent to anything. A mature adult would not say "ohh look, a passed out twink, lets do him rough ! even in a gay bar.
"cracks knuckles"
Informed consent motherfucker, Do you comprehend it? Drunk people are impaired and incoherent, uncoscious people cannot consent. Do you comprehend that a young man not even in the prime of his life yet will now have years of struggle to overcome a horrible emotional trauma that dipshits like you make so much worth?
Does your feeble ass brain comprehend the concept that teenagers do shit like this all the time? They sneak out, they go to forbidden places because they think it's cool, and that still isn't a good enough reason to blame them.
Is drinking heavily alone a stupid idea? Yes yes it is for a number of reasons, but it still doesn't make rape permissable.
Also?
Do I sense the implication that the possibility of him being at a gay bar added to his danger of being raped?
Why yes I do!
Homosexuals are no more likely to rape than your average heterosexual. Less likely actually just because their are not as many of us.
Fuck you Xotan and fuck your bigoted rape apologetic worldview as well.
Although I could never approve of the action of the older men, if the young man is old enough (and stupid enough) to drink himself into oblivion, then he is old enough to accept a fair proportion of the blame for whatever the consequences may be.
I perfectly agree. In my opinion, due to his lack of judgement, a fair proportion of the blame is 0.0001%. That being the case, I'll pass sentence - to the 17-year-old, a stern talking to, advising him to be a bit more careful in future. To the two guys who raped him, castration without anesthetic, using two bricks.
Yeah, and people shouldn't go to school. If they do and someone shoots the school up and they die, it's their fault.
See why your reasoning is wronf?
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