The lawyer for a former Baptist church leader who had spoken out against homosexuality said Thursday the minister has a constitutional right to solicit sex from an undercover policeman.
The Rev. Lonnie W. Latham had supported a resolution calling on gays and lesbians to reject their "sinful, destructive lifestyle" before his Jan. 3, 2006, arrest outside the Habana Inn in Oklahoma City.
Authorities say he asked the undercover policeman to come up to his hotel for oral sex.
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Parents, this is what happens when you name your son Lonnie. Well, when you name him Lonnie and then raise him with twisted fundamentalist values, anyway.
I seem to recall vaguely that someone once said something about judging not, lest you be judged. Someone (maybe the same person?) also said something about specks, beams, and eyes. Could someone please refresh my memory as to who said those things?
Reverend Latham is not making this argument himself. Rather, it seems based on an Amicus brief that the ACLU filed with the court shortly after the trial began. The lawyer rightly picked up on this and is running with it. I'm sure it's only one of the arguments he has prepared, at that.
So 'soliciting' is okay, but the actual sex is wrong? I must admit, this 'logic' is failing me.
If I were fundie, at this point I wouldn't know WHO to hate.
The problem with Reverend Looney, it´s legal depending whether the state forbids prostitution or not and if what you say can be consider as such. Another question is what is he going to say to his fellow members. In any religion, political party and the such people demand that their leaders are consequent.
Matilde: The state obviously DOES outlaw prostitution, or there would never have been a police sting operation to catch potential customers for it, and there would be no way this guy would be up on charges for it. Prostitution is legal only in very, very few places in the U.S.; the state of Nevada is the only one I'm aware of, and possibly not even all of that.
~David D.G.
Having read the article, it seems that there was no offer of money; he's being charged with offering acts of lewdness, even though the acts themselves are legal. Unless the state also busts heterosexuals for inviting potential partners home for sex, I have a hard time seeing how this prosecution could be constitutional.
The state of Virginia, desiring to arrest gays in spite of the supreme court ruling, told its police forces that they could no longer arrest two men for having sex in their bedroom. They would have to content themselves with arresting a man who said "want to go to my bedroom and have sex?" to another man. Which is also not allowed by that supreme court decision (according to a lawyer who does not practice in Virginia) so maybe we could see the reverend working his way up the court system.
David D.G.:
I think it's also sorta kinda legal in Rhode Island on a technicality -- no streetwalking, no solicitation. Though if it really was legal, I'm surprised the "massage parlors" in Providence aren't more open about what they do. (Human trafficking is illegal, though, and I suspect a lot of the girls working there are Asian illegals.)
THe state of Virginia, desiring to arrest gays in spite of the supreme court ruling, told its police forces that they could no longer arrest two men for having sex in their bedroom. They would have to content themselves with arresting a man who said "want to go to my bedroom and have sex?" to another man. Which is also not allowed by that supreme court decision (according to a lawyer who does not practice in Virginia) so maybe we could see the reverend working his way up the court system.
What, and become the new nationalized Ted Haggard? Oh no... the church is going to tell him to get this taken care of as quickly and quietly as possible, before it draws any more attention.
Poor bloke. Think about it; from his position in his commmunity, prostitutes would be the only way he could actually express his sexual needs. From his position, yeah, homosexuality is destructive, because he's now a pariah. It's just sad that he views the religion is immovable rather than himself.
Lawrence vs Texas. DOMA ruled as unconstitutional. The 26th June SCOTUS decision.
The Gay [i]Christian[/i] Network are saying 'We told you so!'
Romans 13:1-5. Therefore it's no longer a sin. Thrice times so.
Thus your denial as you sucked that cock. Or tried to, in that river in Egypt over the fact that the law states that soliciting for sex is illegal . Yet your crowing that it wasn't.
Eating a lot of that now. Instead of cock .
...or perhaps you are. As homosexuality is no longer illegal.
Confused?
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