I think it takes as much faith to believe that the universe began as the size of a marble and expanded in a split second to it's present size, as reported by the Star. In fact, I think a lot of the scientifc claims take a lot of faith and I am certainly not one to believe that the Bible explains the origin of life or this universe. But, I have read some of the "intelligent design" books and they have valid points. And, they show just how far scientists will go to deny that they don't have a clue about the origin of this universe, either.
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"I think it takes as much faith to believe that the universe began as the size of a marble and expanded in a split second to it's present size,"
Thats because there's no evidence that that happened. It took 13.7 billion years for the universe to reach its present size. If you understood science you wouldn't need faith you would have the facts.
Karennkc, you know nothing of the origin of the universe... M-theory, bitch! Or, if you can't wrap your head around that a simple "I don't know" will do. Of course, I guess if you limit the knowledge of the world around you to the Bible and the Kansas City Star you're completely lost in the real world.
I love "intelligent re-design", but I can't for the life understand why fundies would? After all it does start from the premise "God fucked up, so he had to fix this" which kinda tosses that old "infallability thing" that they harp on, right out the window!
Unlike religion, science does not require faith as it has evidence. Building a Strawman version of the Big Bang won't change that fact. ID has some valid points? Really, care to share some of them with the group?
I think it takes as much faith to believe that the universe began as the size of a marble and expanded in a split second to it's present size [...] The Star reported this? That's some sloppy journalism there.
At least get the theory right. The Big Bang theory doesn't say that the universe expanded to its present size in a second. It also doesn't say "size of a marble." More like a kind of infintesimal point. We know those can exist, because we have observed black holes.
The Big Bang isn't all faith. Cosmic background radiation. Observation of early cosmic objects. Particle accelerators. And what do ID people have? Nothing. Well, nothing except "we don't know (yet)," "I think that sounds too weird," and "the Bible says so."
This is the difference between science and religion. When religion doesn't have facts or evidence to explain something, they just say goddidit. When science doesn't have facts or evidence to explain something, they admit that they don't know, but then try to find out.
I don't get it. Why would an ID book adress the Big Bang? ID is supposed to be biology, right?
You are assuming that ID proponents actually know the difference.
There is nothing valid about ID. It is a completely obsolete explanation for the origins of basically everything, from a time when there was no other way to explain them.
We now know a lot better. You, on the other hand, are clinging to a myth several thousand years old. Not too bright, eh?
“I think it takes as much faith to believe that the universe began as the size of a marble and expanded in a split second to it's present size,”
That’s not the theory and that doesn’t require faith.
I can ask any scientist who tells me this (or the real theory) and they’ll tell me the evidence they used to come to that conclusion.
If i ask you why you think Woman came from Adam’s rib, you can show me a story. No evidence, no corroboration, not even scar tissue. YOU have to have faith that there even is a god, that he spoke to someone, that they wrote it down accurately, and that it hasn’t been edited in the many translations since.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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