I had the same experience as you where you say I was "thinking to shock" and she did not get it. I remember the day same *** marriage was passed in Iowa, I was subbing in a small town. I longed to find someone who was upset...but no one was to be found. I literally spent my breaks walking up and down the halls to find one who would "see" the truth, would stand for truth with me and lament this day, but no one was found. Many noted that they wouldn't do it, but if someone else wanted to, that was their choice. No one was strongly supportive, just resigned, thinking they were being kind, I think. I went to the principal who I thought would get it cause he seemed decent and so were his kids, but he just said, "its their choice, who am I to tell them what to do?"
I tried to argue that we teach them about gravity and they know enough not to walk off roofs of buildings. I thought we were training "good" American citizens who could make wise decisions. At least we could walk them thru the consequences of this deceived lifestyle He would not give me that purpose in teaching. After school I went to the superintendant, someone who arranges assemblies for veteran's Day, a "good" American sort, but he too noted that he had a teacher that he just couldn't judge that way. He just had to let her have her choice.
I tried to ask him whether it would be ok if his kids engaged in that lifestyle. Again, this resigned...not my choice. Does this remind me of a Psalm, what to do when the foundations are crumbling? (Not sure where this thought is found, but I think we keep waging the war and keep inquiring)
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You might wanna consort the bible. If your god gave people free will, who are you to restrict it? And don't forget, only god can judge.
If you think homosexuality is a sin, as a christian, you can think that. If you think drugs are bad, you can think that. But if you believe in democracy, legislating goes too far - only if somebody that doesn't consent is involved should we legislate.
"deceived lifestyle"? It isn't gays who think that John Brennan is a secret Muslim based on the word of a disgraced FBI agent with a history of spouting bullshit, or that Obama is a communist, or other nonsense. If you want to see deceived people, look to the right wing.
...I remember the day same *** marriage was passed in Iowa...
Three asterisks got married in Iowa? I never thought punctuation marks could be legally wed.
BethB and her ilk make me sick to my colon ...she deserves a good swift kick in the asterisk .
It reminds you of a Psalm, but you don't know where the thought is found?? If it's too much trouble for you to pick up your Holy Book and actually read it, there are websites that will search for you.
I think that instead of being "resigned" to same *** marriage, more likely they realized that they didn't have the right to tell others how to live their lives. I can understand how this would upset you. With luck, schools will realize that they don't need you subbing anymore.
"I tried to argue that we teach them about gravity and they know enough not to walk off roofs of buildings. I thought we were training "good" American citizens who could make wise decisions."
What has gravity got to do with morality?
At first I read this as "I was sobbing in a small town" and it made just as much sense. Cry harder, Beth. We make champagne from the tears of homophobes so we can celebrate gay rights properly.
And kudos to all the people she yammered at who patiently explained why they weren't joining her hysteria. Those are grown-ups, Beth. Learn from them.
Longing to find someone who was upet? To buttress your own bigotry?
What about the day that eating shellfish; getting haircuts/hairdos; wearing gaments of mixed fibres; eating pork etc, was passed in Iowa?
How is it that of all the Levitical abominations, only one remains in force for Christians. Bigotry, of course. I would be incapable of making any argument if the others were respected. But it's only the one.
BTW, as far as I know, the term 'lying with a man as with a woman' has never been defined. It does not say anything about inserting an erect penis into any orifice, which is what fundies find icky. But if this abomination, whatever it actually is, is to be enforced, then it is hypocritical not to observe all the other biblical aboiminations as well.
@ SpukiKitty
No kicks, please. You might hurt her asteroids. :-)
Um... if you're working (subbing), it seems grossly inappropriate to be "finding someone who is upset" over an issue like that on work time. Even to the point of visiting the principal of the school? Sounds like the other teachers did the right thing for teachers during work hours - "not my business."
If a court decision upset you so much that it affected your work, you really need professional help.
BethB, instead of wondering what is wrong with everyone else, maybe you should start asking what is wrong with you. I mean, you seem genuinely disappointed that you couldn't find anyone else as upset over gay marriage as you were. In Iowa. A red state. The times are changing, and conservative homophobes will soon find themselves on the wrong side of history. Jesus Christ, even a lot of Republicans are coming out in favor of gay marriage now. They see the writing on the wall, why can't the rest of you?
And I hope your attempts to get the principal to let you teach the class about how terrible homosexuality is ruined your chances of ever working there again.
Hahaaa...! So basically: "Oh noes, nobody would be outraged and bigoted with me baaaw! What is this world coming to where people don't persecute and despise people for being gay??"
Iowa is having none of your shit, BethB, so suck it.
Edit to note: Iowa is a swing state, not a red state. It's been going more solidly blue for awhile now.
So, gay marriage was introduced in Iowa so BethB went on a one-woman crusade to try and find other people to be hateful with? What a sad, time-wasting, nosey, not-minding-her-own-business busybody fool she must be.
but no one was found
I actually find this story very encouraging.
This suggests that support for same SEX marriage at that school was somewhere around 99%.
It's also encouraging that Sister Beth admitted that she was alone with her disapproval instead of lying and saying the halls where full of people praying on their knees for God's mercy.
Why do these fucknuts always try to compared marriage to gravity? One is a social institution created by humans and the other is a natural force of the universe. We can clearly see the effects of gravity. The negative effects of gay marriage, though, are completely undetectable.
""tracer
Was it BethB who put that *** there""
No it was us dimwit moderators from the forum at cosmoquest.org who put it there. If we could we would infract BethB for writing that and you for asking about it. We claim to know lots about science but we don't know shit about social interchange. Come to cosmoquest.org so we can boss you around for no reason at all and treat you like a child. Ask for Swift, the most childish of us all.
@Teek
THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
I want to make fun of this post but I can't get over the fact that the word sex is censored.
It's great that they're starting to look around and realize that the majority doesn't share their opinion on homosexuality. It must be really frightening to them.
Those people she spoke to aren't "resigned" to anything. As they said it's not their choice. They're not being "kind" for the sake of not upsetting anyone. They're being reasonable for the sake of what's right.
" I remember the day same *** marriage was passed in Iowa,..."
why do they do this ?
now I have to come up with a three letter word that fits !
I decided SEX fits.
sex,sex,sex,sex,sex its just a word. Most adults do sex, many like it.
@1517564
To be fair, I think the censorship is the forum's doing, not her's.
Doesn't make her any less of a dingbat, just that one bit of dingbattery isn't her's.
Yeah, yeah, you're the real victim here, we know.
Now that it has been several years, maybe you can point to all the negative consequences of legalizing same-sex marriage to bolster your case. So what are they?
Okay, what are some of them?
Okay, what's one problem that recognizing same-sex marriages has caused?
Yeah, yeah, you're the real victim here. We know.
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