What purpose is there to have sex in prison than for pleasure. And to experience pleasure, one has to CHOOSE the activity.Using men confined with other men(men who are confined due their inability to control themselves, btw) most definately shows that homosexual behavior IS a choice. You said (and you are the best proof being an admitted homosexual) homosexuality is an ATTRACTION. These prisoners are not having sex with one another because they are repulsed with one another. They are not forced to have sex as a means of existance/ie breathing. So your example shows both ATTRACTION(YOUR proof for being homo) and CHOICE(MY proof that homo is behavioral NOT hereditary). I had you express your definition of gay and homosexual, because there is a "theory" that one can have homosexual sex and NOT be gay. I, too, agree that there is no difference. The arguement is equivalent to saying one can commit a homocide and not be a murderer.
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Actually, most homosexual activity in prison is motivated by powerlessness.
You take a bunch of guys who are extremely physically aggressive their whole lives, lock them up and render them completely powerless, and they will find some way to reassert power and authority over someone by any means necessary.
Since when does prisoners poking each other up the poopchute have anything to do with attraction or love?
At its most innocent, prisoners' behavior is born out of a desperate need for something to have sex with, no matter what it is. At its worst, prison sexuality is an abuse of power with the strong intimidating the weak, and has nothing at all to do with sex.
What Crosis did!
Oh and....
O.K so there's this businessman who gets done for some enormous embezzlement. He gets 2 years for it. The thing is he's a bit of a posh chap used to the finer things in life and he's worried that the prison sex-cases are going to take a fancy to him. His arse is so pasty and well-fed.
His first night inside and sure enough he's shown to his cell and introduced to his cellmate. The guy is six-feet tall, made of muscle and dressed in nothing but a thong. Jesus, thinks the businessman. He unpacks his things, gets into bed and undresses under vthe duvet. He can feel his cellmate's eyes on him the whole time.
Suddenly it's lights out . Complete darkness. Quivering, he pulls the duvet up to his chin. Half an hour passes and he;s just waiting for it to happen. He just wants it to be over. Then he hears his cellmate speak.
"Hey, new boy!" the bloke says. "We're going to play a little game in here tonight."
Fucking hell thinks the businesman.
"Do you know what this game's called? the cellmate asks him.
"It's called Mummies and Daddies. Now who do you want to be? Do you want to be the mummy? Or the daddy?"
The businesman thinks about it for a moment. Jesus, he thinks. I'd better be the daddy.
"I'll be the daddy, please," he says.
"Right" says the cellmate. "Come over here and suck mummy's cock."
I just thought of something. If macho violent men are put into the right situations (imprisonment), and then engage in homosexual behavior, doesn't that indicate that at least SOME homosexuality can be generated by environment?
@Julian, HAH! Funny shite.
How about consideration that the second most powerfull drive in the human body is for sex? It doesn't go away just because your regular outlet is unavailable.
I like to use the analogy of a couple having sex on the railroad tracks. If they are wanting it bad enough they'll finish UNLESS a train comes down the pike. Survival is always number one. Sex is next!
Apparantly 'Poop' has forgotten what puberty is like and hormones are raging out of control. How about 'wet dreams' or nocturnal emission whish is the body's way of dealing with excess fluid which builds up naturally in the 'crotchal' region?
Reminds me of a scene in 'The Boys Next Door'. Charlie Sheen says that he is so horny he would, "Fuck the cigarette lighter if his dick would fit."
His partner says, "What do you mean, 'if'?"
lol @ Julian
And pig poop guy, it has been proven over and over again that "prison homosexuality" has nothing to do with sexual preferences in general, but is all about domination and relieve of sexual tension - the vast majority of people who engage in same-sex activity while inside do immediately revert back to heterosexual behaviour once they are released.
Please read up on this stuff before you comment on it, because it will catch you out sooner rather than later.
You can´t understand the difference between homosexual behaviour and homosexual tendency, can´t you?, besides, if they are not by choice in jail, it means they´re not gays by choice. It´s like saying, "you see, if you are taking anti-depressants(because you´re sick), you can develop squizofreny, so it´s a choice"
"...definately shows that homosexual behavior IS a choice."
Now what did that straw man ever do to you?
"I had you express your definition of gay and homosexual, because there is a "theory" that one can have homosexual sex and NOT be gay. I, too, agree that there is no difference. The arguement is equivalent to saying one can commit a homocide and not be a murderer."
Does the fact that men who engage in homosexual behavior in prison due to lack of females might be responding differently than gay men in the larger society to prefer other men?
So... I dare you to be gay for a week. If it's a choice, it should be easy to do, right? Just stop being attracted to women, and be attracted to men for a while, instead.
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I just had a horrifying realization. If he thinks that homosexuality is unnatural because people can enjoy same-sex sexual activity, what the heck does that say about his heterosexual sex life?"
It means it's natural, because no one enjoys having sex with him.
Indeed, one can commit a homicide and not be a murderer. Killing in war is homicide, but not murder. Killing in self-defense is homicide, but not murder. Killing by accident is homicide, but not murder. A homicide is the killing of another human being. A murder is the wrongful and intentional killing of another human being.
One can engage in same-sex sexual conduct for any number of reasons and not be a gay person. One can be gay and be celibate.
And in your case, one can be literate enough to type a poorly written, badly spelled and punctuated, and illogical rant into a computer and still be dumb as a rock.
The purpose of rape, of any persuasion, is to assert dominance over the victim. Men who anally rape men are predominantly heterosexual. For some reason, no one seems to understand that the libido has nothing to do with rape.
If you're a man in a prison with only men (or a woman in prison with only women), you have no choice but to have sex with a man (woman), if you want to have sex. I'd guess it's more a case of release than attraction. And quite a lot of it is probably assertion of power over others, the very opposite of love and attraction.
One can have sex with a person of the same gender without love or attraction for that person, yes.
The name makes my (admittedly poor) Poe-radar tingling...
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