moonglow #fundie

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"I will pray that more information on the vaccine is available soon and the issue can be resolved. At this point I imagine many people are stuck between a rock and a hard place - the fear of possible unknown side-effects and the fear of cervical cancer, which, although it is not one of the worst cancers, only about 35% survive it. Hopefully the truth will be revealed to us soon and the vaccine can eventually be made safe and available for those who want it"

Well of course the bibical response is if we follow what God says to do and wait to have sex until marriage this wouldn't even be an issue. This cancer is caused by a STD. God made these 'rules' to keep us safe because He loves us..instead people see Him has being a 'killjoy' and don't do what He says thinking we know more then Him. And look where that got us!

Of course sadly, women and girls get raped and can get it that way too. (again people not following His Word) I just wish they would make safer vaccines! Seems like they rush to get things out before they are fully tested...

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old comment by Jud

Vaccines are tested, asshole. That's why we have an FDA.

The majority of men and women end up carrying some strain of HPV at some point in their lives. It can cause cancers of the reproductive system in both women and men.

Even if you were a complete virgin up until your marriage, you have no proof about your spouse, and, unfortunately, no perfect protection against rape.

Immunization prevents 98% of the strains of HPV. Your child needs to be able to be safe, at least from this one thing you can keep him or her safe from. Don't you love your daughters enough, your sons enough and your future children in law enough to surrender your paranoia over their virginity in favor of their health?

old comment by Anon

>>I wouldn't let my kid get the Gardasil vaccine, but not on account of religion. I don't believe it's been out long enough to really have been judged safe. Plus I have to question why the state of Texas was trying to MANDATE a vaccine for a non-epidemic disease.<<

The overall incidence of HPV in adults in the USA is currently over 25%. That is as epidemic as a disease has ever been. Now, only ~3% of those infections will eventually lead to cancer and only something like half of those cases will be fatal, but you can see how immunizing everyone who is not yet infected is incredibly important.

For every two hundred and fifty or so vaccinations, one fatal case of cervical cancer is prevented.

This is a factor of two or three better than the fatality-prevention rate of influenza vaccinations.

>>I also question that if men are carriers of the virus, why are they not required to be vaccinated also? Why just the girls? <<

Because women are far more likely to suffer dangerous complications of infection (i.e. cancer). There is a wonderful idea called herd immunity: if you vaccinate all of the women, you don't necessarily need to vaccinate the men because the virus isn't going to spread through the population very well. You get most of the benefit for half of the cost.

If the cost of the vaccine comes down, it makes sense to vaccinate men as well. Currently, the FDA has approved the vaccine for this use, and it is being highly recommended for gay men since they benefit less from the herd immunity achieved by vaccinating women.

old comment by Swede

Vaccines are some of the most researched medicines around. Nothing, however, is completely safe; even too much water or air will kill you.

In what way is not wearing clothes of mixed fabrics going to keep us safe?
Where not listening to God has got us is lower infant mortality rates than ever before, higher life-expectancy rates and better quality of life, for most people.

One more time; vaccines are safer than most other drugs. They have been extremely well tested, due to the forged study that said they cause autism. Most vaccines protect us from potentially deadly diseases; slight cases of side effects are in general much preferable to death...