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If the speed of light transends time as it seems Einstien thought, then how can distance or time be measured by the speed of light?

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old comment by Julian

Hey everybody! It's Mrs Worthington's Daughter!!!!
Noel Coward - (Don’t Put Your Daughter On The Stage), Mrs. Worthington Regarding yours, dear Mrs. Worthington, Of Wednesday the 23rd, Although your baby May be, Keen on a stage career, How can I make it clear, That this in not a good idea. For her to hope, Dear Mrs. Worthington, Is on the face of it absurd, Her personality Is not in reality Inviting enough, Exciting enough For this particular sphere. Refrain 1 Don't put your daughter on the stage, Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage, The profession is overcrowded And the struggle's pretty tough And admitting the fact She's burning to act, That isn't quite enough. She has nice hands, to give the wretched girl her due, But don't you think her bust is too Developed for her age? I repeat Mrs. Worthington, Sweet Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage. Refrain 2 Don't put your daughter on the stage, Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage, She's a bit of an ugly duckling You must honestly confess, And the width of her seat Would surely defeat Her chances of success, It's a loud voice, and though it's not exactly flat, She'll need a little more than that To earn a living wage. On my knees, Mrs. Worthington, Please Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage. Refrain 3 Don't put your daughter on the stage, Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage, Though they said at the school of acting She was lovely as Peer Gynt, I'm afraid on the whole An ingénue role Would emphasize her squint, She's a big girl, and though her teeth are fairly good She's not the type I ever would Be eager to engage, No more buts, Mrs. Worthington, NUTS, Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage. [Song normally ends here, but there is another refrain] Refrain 4 Don't put your daughter on the stage, Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage, One look at her bandy legs should prove She hasn't got a chance, In addition to which The son of a bitch Can neither sing nor dance, She's a vile girl and uglier than mortal sin, One look at her has put me in A tearing bloody rage, That sufficed Mrs. Worthington, Christ! Mrs. Worthington, Don't put your daughter on the stage.

old comment by whereami

Broken_Egg, have you actually recieved any education or spent time learning anything outside of what you did in High School before making the claim that noone should try to question Einstein's thoughts? Did you even know that quite a few mistakes were found in Einstein's theories and equations as it stands? (1)
I won't speak for the member in question, but I will say that he was actually onto something. Judging distance or time by the speed of light will only prove to be useful granted that we assume that the condition of the space being in a vacuum is always satisfied. If any gaseous or dense material should ever pass through the path of the light in space (i.e. vacuum), the time at which the light will reach a given location will be directly affected. Has anybody actually considered this factor that astronomers commonly debate over before making blanket accusations against the referenced member? No offense to the participants of this website, but I must say that I am disappointed. Not by the fact that you accuse and poke fun at certain individuals expressing their opinions in cyberspace (I won't debate the idea that some do not deserve it). Nay, I am disappointed by the fact that none of you even made the slightest attempt to try to understand the other party's views, regardless of their ambiguity and wording. "Where there is an open mind, there will always be a frontier." -Dorthea Brande (1) http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-58/iss-11/p31.html

old comment by Julian

"Whereami"?
Let's see first up, transcends is not only misspelt, but misapplied - Einstein did not think that. Broken_Egg would have been specifically addressing dworthington, who it appears would fail MISERABLY trying to put his trousers on 3 times out of 5. The only thing I can say in his defense is he's not the stupidest person on that thread which goes to Studyin'2Show "We all know that no one has a tape measurer that's billions of light years long" and "Obviously, why? Because you've held the tape measurer? Because your eyes judge distances very, very well? Because they look really, really far? Because that's what you've been told? You are confused, I'm not! It seems obvious that the method when analysed is extremely flimsy. My faith is not a democracy, majority does not rule. God's Word does; at least for me." Perhaps you'd care to give us all a lesson in Maxwell's propagation of Electromagnetic Radiation or maybe something special, just from you like how the visible universe is considerably more than 6,000 light years wide.

old comment by Crosis

<<< If any gaseous or dense material should ever pass through the path of the light in space (i.e. vacuum), the time at which the light will reach a given location will be directly affected. >>>
Yeah. It'll take even longer to get here, which isn't exactly a helpful argument for YECs. However, the speed of light isn't (and really can't be) used to measure the distance to stars - that's done by triangulation. (Do a Google search for "triangulation distance stars" without the quotes.) Once we know the distance, we know the minimum amount of time that has passed since the star emitted that light (based on the speed of light) - it could be longer, if the light passed through a region with high permittivity or permeability, but it can't be shorter.

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