"Christians make up the majority of prisons while atheists only cover about 0.2% of the entire prison population."
When prisoners are enlisted they are no doubt told to give their religious affiliation--whether they are a Jew, a Moslem, a Christian, a Hindu, etc. I’m sure that one of the reasons they ask that question is that it's probably not a good idea to put a Moslem and a Jew in the same cell. Few list their religious affiliation as being “atheist” because, as we are so often reminded, atheism is not a belief.
Most people who have some sort of belief would check "Christian" because we are still known as a Christian nation rather than a Moslem, Hindu or Jewish nation. Those atheists who keep parading this "statistic" in an effort to prove that atheists live on a higher moral ground need only look at the 110,000,000 human beings who have been slaughtered under atheistic communism, to bring them back to reality.
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Wohoo! Banana-man has realized that atheism is a lack of belief. It can still be used in said circumstance, silly; there is often a box marked "None of the above" at the end.
Who are these 110 million people slaughtered under atheistic communism? Names, dates, perpetrators, please.
Few list their religious affiliation as being “atheist” because, as we are so often reminded, atheism is not a belief.
So you're saying, in a country with the First Amendment, "none" is not an option?
If someone was so pedantic as to refuse to label themselves atheist in a form requesting religious affiliation because it's technically a lack of religious affiliation, I doubt that they would call themselves Christian in that same form. That makes no sense.
And if what you're saying is that there is no option on the form for 'None' that I shall simply point out that 0.2% of the US prison population managed to find it anyhow.
Talking about Atheists, people who by definition do not have faith in any deity and says "Most people who have some sort of belief would check "Christian" ".
Thise theists who keep 'objecting' to this statistic in an effort to prove that christians live on a higher moral ground need only look at the 110,000,000 human beings who have been slaughtered under jewish christian communism, to bring them back to reality.
That's right, Stalin was a seminary student and Marx was a Jew.
Go shove a banana up your ass.
Technically your God is responsible for all those death, as well as every death since the beginning of time, given that you believe that God is responsible for everything in the universe...
... So who's the colossal scumbag now?
Communism is an economic system.
Atheism is just people not buying your shit.
Nice demonization attempt to pair two (perceived) negative stimuli together.
That is manipulation and deceitful.
See you in hell, ya fucking liar.
I'm an atheist and even when I don't identify myself as such I don't just call myself a Christian. I'd say "I'm not really religious". I wouldn't go "Hmmmm...I'm an atheist but he asked for a religion. I know! I'm a Christian. Even though I think the Bible is utter BS.". Yeah, that's not how people think. And while I think it's dumb to use this stat to prove the superiority of atheism (prison stats would also "prove" the superiority of white people, which we know is bullshit), it does contradict fundies' main argument that atheists have no morals and just do whatever they want to whoever they want. If that argument were true, you'd expect atheists to disproportionately make up the prison population. But we don't.
look at the 110,000,000 human beings who have been slaughtered under atheistic communism
And? I'm not a communist and neither are most American atheists. Blaming Richard Dawkins or even Ayn Rand (*throws up in mouth*) for Stalin and Mao is like blaming Pope Francis and you for the Holocaust and Inquisition. Only it's even worse as they and most atheists don't share much of ANY of the same ideology as Stalin or Mao. In fact, comparing any two atheists is exactly like comparing any two theists so a more accurate analogy would be blaming you and Ayatollah Khomeini for Charles Manson.
Ray once again spouting off about stuff he doesn't know about. If the prisons didn't have a box for "Atheist/none," then why would there be any atheists at all recorded in the prison population?
And still missing the point that the largest percentage of prisoners identify as Christian, showing that the threat of Hell is no deterrent to committing crime.
Not really tying to argue the point, I see, just sortof trying to shuffle around it in the hope it will go away, the shouting "look, a flying purple elephant!" and running away while everyone is distracted.
Meh. The numbers game with prison populations is silly. If I was in prison and facing a parole board, and I thought claiming conversion might help get me out, I'd damn sure be dropping to my knees to praise Jesus.
As for Stalin and Mao, they were both from Asia, as was Pol Pot. Perhaps it's not the "evil atheists" that you should be wary of, but Asians.
I agree: this prison statistic doesn't necessarily put atheists on a higher ground, because it ignores other factors (socioeconomic status) which might correlate in some way (positive of negative) with both atheism and a reduced likelihood of crime. But it also shoots several holes in the claims of numerous fundies that atheism leads to lawlessness and chaos.
...or simply in that river in Egypt over the simple fact that Atheists are generally morally superior to Christains , eh Ray Cumfart?
We're only human. We make mistakes.
But some make more mistakes than others . [/"Animal Farm"]
US prison population: 80% Christian, 0.02% Atheist. Full of 'faith', no faith...!
Atheists make up less number of people in prison because the majority of atheists (or at least the people who identify as atheists) are middle-class white people, who statistically are incarcerated less often. Not because of some stupid thing about atheists not listing their religious belief because they don't think it is a belief.
Oh, and nice one on bringing up the repeatedly disproved number of communism's deaths. You wouldn't want to live in a shitty hellhole like Tsarist Russia--as a former Jew, you would be persecuted to hell and back by the antisemitic government.
If you can claim communism's 110 million victims (the vast majority of that alleged number died in famines), please accept responsibility for capitalism's crimes like the Bengal Famine of 1770, perpetrated by the Christians in the British East India Company. And that's just the first of many we can attribute to capitalism, which has an far bloodier and even more oppressive history than the worst torments Stalin could dream up.
Those theists who keep trying to prove that they live on a higher moral ground need only look at the 110,000,000 human beings-men, women(including pregnant women), children, and infants who have been slaughtered by their god in the old testament to bring them back to reality.
"Few list their religious affiliation as being “atheist” because, as we are so often reminded, atheism is not a belief."
So atheists claim to be Christians because...? LIke at the DMV when the bald guy listed his hair color as brown because bald isn't a hair color?
Ray religious affiliation has nothing to do with which cell block they put you in, unless you haven't noticed, but prison is a little too overcrowded to segregate based on religion. Of course what should bother you more is that if that figure holds true, then there are a lot of Christians who enjoy raping each other in showers.
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Atheistic communism isn't a fucking thing, okay. No one has died from atheism.
I swear on the bible in court because an atheist is often perceived as less intrinsically honest as a christian - particularly when one considers judges are predominantly christian. As a white, Australian male the court will offer a Bible as an object to make an oath under. At that point, I don't see the point in disrupting proceedings and explaining my religious beliefs (or lack thereof) to a person who may be put off by them.
I've no doubt that many nontheists identify in the legal system as Christian for the same reason. This will be a checked box on the persons file at every parole hearing, every behavioural review the person goes through for the rest of their stay.
But yeah, the 110 million people thing is a pile of crap.
If atheism gets blamed for deaths under communism than religion must get the blame for all deaths under any state which had an official religion.
So, for example, the Church of England was the official religion of England. Therefore, any death that occurred under the British Empire, say, all the millions of people who died in the famines that occurred in India under British rule , is blamed on religion.
But, you say, that's unfair. Those deaths are more the result of politics, ideology, circumstance and mismanagement than religion. And most religious people would find the actions of Britain in India horrible.
And I say, "Yes".
Ray and other religious leaders benefit from one stupid cliché that appear to be worldwide:
Like most clichés it's wrong, you don't in fact need a belief in a world creating entity at all and you certainly don't need to adhere to any of the 100s of religions on this mudball.
There are no Atheist countries or mass movements in history. Not believing in YOUR God Ray? Well that would make over two-thirds of the world population Atheists. Countries without state mandated religions? Hundreds of peaceful lands throughout history.
Before Communism there was a dark nasty piece of work called the Russian Orthodox church whos' history is just as vile as anything since. The entire Christian religion is peerless in atrocities, it's why you yanks continue to splinter off into newer denominations regularly, it seems to take less than a decade before the stink, corruption and hypocrisy becomes obvious.
"Those atheists who keep parading this "statistic" in an effort to prove that atheists live on a higher moral ground need only look at the 110,000,000 human beings who have been slaughtered under atheistic communism, to bring them back to reality."
Unless, of course, those atheistic communists only identified as such because they were in an atheistic nation, rather than a Moslem, Hindu or Christian one...
Nah, you'd have to be thicker than tight-packet s*** to use that as an excuse!
Besides, it's Ray's lot who not only complain about the 50/75/100 million "murders" of fetuses that have been carried out, but also insist the US is a "Christian nation".
One with as bad a record as any atheistic communist one by their own arguments, apparently.
Oscar Pistorius, athlete; a Christian & gun owner-turned murderer. Will most probably be jailed for life. Kent Hovind, Christian & tax fraud, is doing a ten-stretch in jail for Not Rendering Unto Caesar.
Richard Dawkins, Atheist, biologist, author, lecturer & TV presenter. An unblemished reputation, never mind a criminal record. He pays his taxes. As does Jonathan Edwards, ex-Olympic gold medallist athlete-turned TV sports presenter. P.R. reputation utterly spotless. Not so much a criminal record for spitting in the street. He's an Atheist too. The very fact he used to be a long-time Christian should tell you something.
The banana as we know it today, due to human intervention, not a 'Creator'. The fact that Gravity does exist in space. And now this. You're running out of excuses to justify your own 'belie fs', Ray Cumfart.
Jonathan Edwards needed no excuses.
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