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I seriously feel like curb stomping this piece of shit. I lost my mom to cancer back in '08, and now they think my grandma has lung cancer. Both of them were/are better people, and better Christians than Ray and his ilk will ever be.
The Evidence Bible, or How To Be A Vulture*.
*With apologies to actual vultures and the vital role they play in the ecosystem.
My dad was recently diagnosed with terminal cancer, and we were told last week that he probably won't be with us for Christmas this year. If anyone approached me with this sort of nonsense, I'd feel entirely justified in taking a swing at them. I mean, pretty much the only thing that would make the situation seem worse at this point is if I thought there were some supposedly all-loving being out there which had caused it.
So, if someone experiences a tragedy, that's your cue to try and convert them* because they're emotionally vulnerable?
(* With less than inspiring ideas, might I add)
Vultures are lovely creatures that deserve better than to be lumped in with these creeps.
Get them when their down, nothing new here.
Does show that Ray Comforts internet ministry isn't above ambulance chasing or obituary notice opportunities like many regular priests take advantage of.
Ray, fuck you for preying on people when they are at their emotional weakest point. Fuck you for using the someone's death to further you own agenda, and for proselytizing. You are utter scum, and I wish you fall prey to the Ruinous forces of Chaos. Say 'hi' to Tzeentch for me.
So basically, don't say their loved one died because of sin, but tell them that they died because of sin. Then use their personal tragedy to proselytize to them because that's when people aren't thinking clearly and more likely to buy your bullshit.
I've lost several relatives to cancer, and two to AIDS. Every time, this kind of shit is spread around as if it's an actual comfort.
Only to the person saying it. To the people grieving, it's fucking ridiculous.
Bonus points: the last time someone said this to me, it was the pastor of the church I attended when I lived in Va. He presided over my aunt's funeral. While graveside, he said it while giving my pentacle the stinkeye. Such sincerity.
Always be prepared to give a reason
...except that your 'Loving God' doesn't exist.
The [I]only[/I] reason we'll need.
And that's why you're reduced to this, Ray Cumfart.
Just because people will no longer do as you order them.
Well, at least it advises against going on about punishment and sin and that people are going to hell...
My Baptist minister cousin was the only one from mom's family at dad's funeral (brain cancer). Didn't say a word about religion, other than to ask if I wanted to come to church that Sunday as a source of social comfort. Showed respect despite dad being of a rather non-Christian faith. Offered condolences and comfort. Didn't proselytize, just stood by everyone and (like the rest of us) told stories about dad.
In other words, did the right thing. This... is not the right thing.
"Has the person kept the ten commandments?"
You want to make sure grandma wasn't boiling kids in their mother's milk, that's going to be the proof she's not going to make it to the pearly gates.
"Many people are so hardhearted that it takes a tragedy to make them come out
Translation: "Hook 'em in while they're vulnerable". That's really low, even for you, Ray.
After my husband was cremated, a couple of people gave me that "He's in a better place" line. I told them (truthfully) that he was in the trunk of the neon, and did they really think that was a better place?
@Paler_Face
Suffering endless madness for eternity, as he tries to comprehend the impossibility of Tzeentch, is a fate far too kind for Ray. Becoming the enslaved, soulless puppet of Slaanesh, forced to eat out her glorious, daemonic taint as she uses his broken body as part of her throne would be more fitting, given how far these peoples' heads are up their OWN asses.
"Evidence" and "Bible" do not belong in the same sentence, unless it's "there is currently no evidence for any of the claims made by the bible".
it takes a tragedy to make them receptive to God
You make God out to be an idiot. It usually has exactly the opposite effect - religious people begin thinking maybe God is just a bunch of hooey. You'd think the Lord of the Universe would know that. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake struck on All Saints Day and destroyed almost every church in the city. It caused the ocean to recede, and as the initial survivors - almost all devout Christians - rushed to the docks to witness the disappearance of the ocean, it came sloshing back as a tsunami and killed them, too. In its aftermath, it probably created more atheists than any other event in recent history.
...I...just...Wow!
Ray Comfort, you're an opportunistic douchebag of the highest order!
How dare you take advantage of emotionally vulnerable people like that!! How dare you feed upon their misery like that!!
If I still had even the slightest sympathy for you, it's gone now.
You're an evil, sadistic vulture who preys upon the innnocent.
Hey Ray, just in case you missed this scripture...
Revelation 22:18 -19 (KJV)18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Or, or, you could have a little fucking tact and not use the death of someone else's loved one for your own selfish purposes, you parasitic asshole.
How about some quotes from Ray's own book:
More Than Just Comfort: An Answer to Cancer (c. 1979)
"There is absolutely no point in being healed in our bodies, then dying in our sins and spending an eternity in hell. It would be better to die of cancer and go to heaven because of that cancer, then to live in perfect health and end up in hell."
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you should never take medicine to relieve pain. You should never consult a doctor or go to a hospital for treatment, because you would be interfering with the work of God in your life. If Cancer is the chastening tool of God, then doctors who are fighting cancer are fighting against the work of God. If a preacher or a Christian believes the sickness is a means of chastening, then he should never pray for relief from the sickness, but rather pray that the cancer will continue to grow until the chastening is completed."
How nice he refers to cancer as "the work of god in your life".
What should someone say to someone that writes shit like this? How about "Fuck You Ray Comfort!"
My wife of 38 years died Sept 22nd and we had, after cremation, three separate private events to observe her life. Her family has several religious people who knew neither her, I or our grown children are religious so they did it in a park together and I said "do what you want, I won't be there and neither will she".
The last event was in our back yard and was exclusively for those that would visit us a home. People that actually knew her and were fond of her, it was great, the Gods gave us a wonderful early October day some would say.
You can easily, although that's not perhaps the best word, deal with tragedy or grief without the trappings of a mercenary religion involved. I maintain it's the best way.
P. S.
She was camera shy so only a few family portraits were up, I've got several collage ones of our family over the years made up now. She's gonna haunt me, she promised.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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