jong:
And SCOTUS has been proven wrong by themselves changing what is allowed and what is not. And no the Government does not have to remain silent upon the matter for that would violating their rights. And yes a police department can have it on their door. But, trying to teach people like you history is rather useless. You have to remove your head from your nether regions first.
Ambulance Chaser:
SCOTUS has never been "proven wrong," just reversed on a few occasions by later Supreme Court decisions. At which point, the earlier decision is no longer law.
Until that happens, it remains the law.
jong:
Incorrect. NONE of it is Law. It is only opinons.
Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, opinions that MUST be followed, regarding what the law says. So, law.
jong:
Not quite. Their opinons are only as valid as can be enforced like anything else. And no its not law. And they are only one third of the three branches of govenment. In fact if both Congress and the President told them to get screwed they could do it. That is how it is set up. No one branch can dictate to the others
Ambulance Chaser:
"Congress and the President can dictate to the Supreme Court."
"No branch can dictate to the others."
Aside from the fact that you contradicted yourself within the space of three sentences, Congress and the President haven't told them to "get screwed" so your point is moot.
jong:
Incorrect. The point is that one branch can not over rule the other two. I guess you missed that part of civics class.
Ambulance Chaser:
I did, because it's not true.
jong:
Actually it is. That is how our government is set up. But, I guess you missed that class
Ambulance Chaser:
Okay, so why were the courts able to stop Trump's Muslim ban? Twice? Why did they partially overrule RFRA? Why did they overrule Bush's military commissions program?
jong:
Oh come now you profess to practice law and want to pretend that you dont have any idea about the Ninth and the amount of times it has been over ruled? In fact they have been over ruled so many times that the entire Ninth needs to be "reshuffuled"
Ambulance Chaser:
Yes the Ninth Circuit has been overturned sometimes. So what?
Can we get back on topic now? You said courts can't overrule the other branches. I just showed you a bunch of times when they did. How is that possible?
jong:
Actually in the end IF Trump had wanted to and Congress concurred he could have over rulled the courts. That is a matter of history or dont you understand how our government was set up??
Ambulance Chaser:
So why hasn't he?
jong:
Why are you asking me a question you should be posing to him?? And you are once again deflecting. Which is no real surprise.
Ambulance Chaser:
Here, I'll just answer it: because he can't. Presidents are not above the law.
jong:
And I never said they were. You did. What I did say is that you are very limited in your education not to understand that our government is based on three legs. And one leg of it can not stand against the other two. But. go ahead and blather on your lies and idiocy are some what amusing in that it most certain shows your lack of learning
Ambulance Chaser:
Are you trying to say that if the president and Congress decide to pass a law after the Supreme Court that doing so is unconstitutional, they can do it anyway? Because no, they can't.
jong:
If both Congress and the President agree upon a law and enforce their will the courts would have little choice. Once again showing how really little you know. You should get out of a court and into reality. A court order like a law is only as good as enforcement. That is why with the over whelming amount of liberal courts their orders will soon be useless. They simply make little or no sense in any way shape or form.
Ambulance Chaser:
And how exactly would that happen? If there were some type of military coup that shattered the social order and brought about the end of the United States as we know it? Then yes, I suppose Supreme Court rulings would probably be fairly useless under the new martial dictatorship.
Is that what you're talking about? Because fine, I'll concede that the Supreme Court would become irrelevant in your twisted, post apocalyptic revenge fantasy.