I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol), and two lesbians were making out next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our lesbianism wherever you walk" type of thing.
I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.
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You're out with your kids?
Do you know how many straight couples I've seen doing that? I personally have no problem with public displays of affection, but gay OR straight, making out on the verge of foreplay shouldn't be done in such plain eyesight. THough I bet the two lesbians did little more than a kiss, and as always, it's blown out of proportion by these morons.
Oh, and way to just toss on the "gays are pedophiles" reference there asshat.
If the story is true, the lesbians were tacky show-offs. The same would be true if they were straight. But in some sense, gays who engage in this sort of thing are often anti-straight bigots, themselves. They presume their "audience" are homophobes and they want to shock them. I wouldn't bother them, but frankly, these kind of assholes just give homophobes more ammunition.
I would agree, if they were making out.
But knowing FC, one probably gave the other a kiss on the cheek.
Honestly, I would feel similarly. Because regardless of orientation, I don't feel comfortable when people are making out in public in a position where I have to invade their personal space (like near the front door.) I just feel uncomfortable. This guy however sounds like he'd be fine if it was a guy and a girl. I would feel equally odd. That is where we differ.
Also, despite many unfounded allegations, gay people are not all inherently pedophiles.
I know right? It's disgusting all these PDAs by freaks! Just the other day I went to Walmart and there was a heterosexual couple making out on a bench in front of the McDonalds inside! I mean really get a room right?
Oh wait. You just don't like it when it's lesbians or gays making out in public.
If they were actually making out in front an ice cream shop, of all places, then shame on them, gay or straight.
If it was just a kiss and maybe a touch of the cheek, shame on you for exaggerating.
Fundy how? If what he says is true, he didn't like two people making out in front of an ice cream store in full view of children. Would he have been as upset if they were straight? Maybe not, but it's perfectly reasonable to be disqusted by that behavior.
@His4Life
I'd have told them to go to fucking hell, since that's were they're heading to anyway.
Actually, the Bible says nothing about lesbians kissing, it only tells them not to lie with each other. And there's no way you could possibly know whether or not they've actually done that (it could be way too early in their relationship for that) so you're in no position to judge. The bible does, however, tell Christians to "judge not lest ye be judged". So I'd reconsider who's the one that's actually in danger of hellfire.
Now you know how I feel when straight couples, or any couples for that matter, are groping, grinding, and face-eating all over each other in the department store.
If I have to be civil about it, so do you. Fair's fair.
"I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner."
You have something backwards here. You shouldn't be ashamed that you had the good sense to hold your tongue and not spout off your ridiculous bigotry. You SHOULD be ashamed if you DO spout off your bigotry.
If they were ugly, I concur he might have a point.
#1173119
"I'd have told them to go to fucking hell, since that's were they're heading to anyway."
Matthew 15:11 : Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
@dionysus:
Actually, the Bible doesn't even go that far: it only condemns gay male sex (Leviticus 20:13). Lesbians can do whatever the hell they want, and leave God sifting through the paperwork for the commandment he forgot.
And kudos to the anon above me, for best Bible citation in this thread.
Oh noes, they'll be holding hands next!
@ His4Life,
What about the shit that's coming out of your mouth? If anything's defilement that is!
Actually, I agree, to an extent, with Mr Sanity (why do I think of Groucho?). But I am equally offended by heterosexual couples who do exactly the same thing. There is a time and place for everything and, to use the Americanism*, making out in public is generally distasteful to my way of thinking. It matters not if it be lesbians, gay men, or a woman and a man. It is lacking in respect for others.
Where the problem lies in this posting is that there are, on the law of averages, more heterosexual couples who do this sort of thing. Yet Mr Sanity makes no reference to it. Can it be he is blinded to it by acceptance of heterosexuality and, contrariwise, only sees this kind of behaviour when it's done by lesbians or gays?
And Mr Sanity should certainly keep away from the Languedoc (France) when I live. Several time a day I kiss both women and men on both cheeks. Once on each cheek is normal. Leftright and again left & right is a sign a close friendship. Poor Mr Sanity. I don't think he would be up our indiscriminate kissing that has no regard whatsoever to the correct gender polarity! But then Jesus was into kissing too. He had to be or Judas would never have approached to kiss him... No?
@Xotan "*I understand this to mean going way beyond just chaste, or even passionate, kissing."
I honestly think you're understanding it wrong. "Making out in public" is usually a volontarily exaggerated way to say "french kissing in public". If they ever went beyond first base, it would have been detailed in excruciating detail.
MrSanity, circa 1950:
"I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol House Un-American Activities Committee), and two lesbians n------ were making out next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our lesbianism n----ism wherever you walk" type of thing.
I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage."
I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol), and two fundies were shouting down eternal damnation to everyone who didn't share their views next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our fundieism wherever you walk" type of thing.
I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.
Fixed.
Who's to say it wasn't a woman and a very feminine-looking man? Or a woman and an FTM?
I can't help but wonder if MrSanity (oh, the irony of that username!) isn't just so homophobic that he's seeing gay people even where there aren't any.
@Dionysus, inre: His4Life:with a man as one lies with a woman." So carpetmunching is clearly ok. ;)
(The L)
Technically, yes. *nods*
However, it should be noted that people in power, as late in our history as Queen Victoria, didn't do much about sapphic love when policing morality, not because they were keen on women doing their thing but not men, but because it didn't even occur to them that two women enjoying each other sexually could even be possible.
Mr. Sanity's idea of two lesbians "making out:" Holding hands.
And frankly, if two lesbians were making out in front of me, I'd think that was hot. But only if they were hot.
I'd love to know what you mean by "make out." See, it seems to hold very different meanings for many people. For me, it means heavy kissing, petting, possibly groping of the crotch, etc. That is, foreplay (or at least close to it).
For some (especially homophobes), it means gay people engaging in the same activity with each other that you would find acceptable if a straight couple did it (ie, holding hands, kissing, maybe one with their arm around the other).
I refuse to confess, however, that the thought of two lesbians making out with ice cream involved has in any way aroused me...
MrSanity, you retarded asshole!
You have NO rights to be protected from seeing anything in public which is not an illegal act and being gay is not illegal even though I know you'd like death penalty for them.
If you can't handle seeing things you don't like, put a gun to your head and pull the damn trigger and your problem is solved, once and for all!
I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol), and a straight couple were making out next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our staightism wherever you walk" type of thing.
I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.
@ Murdin
Thanks for explaining that. It clearly is nothing like I was envisaging. Like tcmarcl below, I too had the idea it involved groping/foreplay, which to my way of thinking would indeed be inappropriate, and disrespectful of others, in a public place
Whereas heterosexuals are always so considerate to keep their makeout sessions behind closed doors, and are never seen playing tonsil hockey on streets, at bus stops, in the produce aisle, in the theatre...
I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol), and two lesbians heterosexuals were making out next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our lesbianism heterosexuality wherever you walk" type of thing.
I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.
There, I fixed it.
I'm straight, but whenever I go to a ball game I invariably see some heterosexual couple with a combined weight of 600-plus pounds making out. I personally find that more icky than two fit gay guys making out, and two cute lesbians would just be hawt.
"it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage."
Yeah, I'm sure you rented that pay-per-view movie "Raiders of the Lost Anus" by accident. Amirite?
So it would have been ok if it were a man and a woman making a public show? Because I kinda of think that that should be behind close doors.
Don't you understand? Whenever a heterosexual couple make out in public they're just expressing their affection for each other, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks, but when homosexuals do it, their only intention is to provoke everyone around them!
/sarcasm off
OK MrSanity, please take a video camera with you when you go out, and when you see lesbians kissing, record the evidence and upload it to Youtube or somewhere... in HD. Just so we can verify how... er... disgusting it is.
"I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage."
You could move to Saudi Arabia.
Ill help u pack
I agree with Allegory. It's not the fact that they're lesbians. It's the fact that it's in public. Even if it was a man and a woman, I'd still say, "Get a Room!" The fact that you make the point that their lesbianism means that THAT is what is offending you, and for THAT, BOO!
I've seen hetrosexuals make out in public places all the time. Nobody says a word to them.
But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.
That's what happens when you keep your TV on the lesbain porn channel.
I'm a little tired of you breeders trotting out your kids every chance you get. Your "deal with our babymaking wherever you walk" type of thing really disgusts me. I don't care what you do behind closed doors, but when it's everywhere I go and on the television, it becomes my business. Get your big, floppy, stretched out vagina away from me, woman!
In other words, shut up and get used to it lady. Teh gays exist and they're people like you and I and nobody is hurt by their actions. It's not a crime for two consenting adults to make out.
@Xotan: "be inappropriate,"
Why?
"and disrespectful of others, in a public place"
Why should I respect people that are offended by love? Fuck them!
Wow, there's even the nugget of RSTDT in here:
(and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol)
Dude, that's because you're white . The Arizona law which officially requires everyone to carry proof of citizenship at all times was only passed because the people voting for it knew that whatever the law says, it will only be enforced against Those Brown People (whether born outside the U.S. or not). Let's put it this way: if I (white, born outside the U.S. to U.S. citizens) and two of my closest friends (one white, and an immigrant from Canada, the other Chicana and American-born) were to visit Arizona together, I don't think even "MrSanity" would bet against the only born-in-the-U.S.A. member of the party being the only one checked for proof of citizenship.
@ Kristine
Did you even take the trouble to read the entirety of my posting? If you did, you would have seen that I asked for clarification of an American term that is not generally understood where I come from. You would also have seen that I thanked another poster for the clarification that was given, and at the same time indicated what the expression had originally conveyed to me.
For the general readership, I have no objection whatsoever to displays of affection by anyone. Moreover, it is a matter of sublime indifference to me what people of any number or gender-combination do in private. However, if Katrine finds sexual groping and foreplay in a public place acceptable, then it says a lot about her.
Don't bother answering, Katrine. I have seen and noted your other postings on this forum and consider you pretty much a troll.
@1173756: "However, if Katrine finds sexual groping and foreplay in a public place acceptable, then it says a lot about her."
It does indeed, but not as you seem to imply: As I value freedom, of course I find "sexual groping" and "foreplay" in a public place acceptable. After all, you are free to look away, so it does not infringe on anybody's freedom.
Also, my name is Kristine, not Katrine.
I wanna live where he's living. When I turn on the TV, which is not often admittedly, nothing. When ever I leave the house, nothing. Maybe he needs to live next door to me.
How insensitive of you to flaunt your ability to have kids by being out in public with not one but two (maybe more) children. What about us sterile people, have you no compassion for us? We have the right to not see kids everywhere! PERSECUTION!!!
What? It's as inane as Mr Sanity's moral panic...
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