Ray Comfort #fundie

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“I've said this before but I’ll say it again, he should just come down and be straight with the world and unite this discordant and ignorant worlds people once and for all under by showing his undeniable presence. He needs to stop sending violent clues like hurricanes, update and republish his book to fit modern times, and step in and help out when things get out of hand like the holocaust.” Gabriel King

So let’s take these points one at a time:

1. God did come down in the person of Jesus of Nazareth. He was very straight with the world, and they tried to kill Him as soon as He opened His mouth in public. They tried to kill Him a total of ten times before He made it to the cross. They hated Him because they didn’t like what He said. Neither will you, if you take the time to read what He said, in the gospels.
2. You and I are part of this “ignorant world” (as you call them), and our ignorance is willful. We know God exists because of creation (Nature) and our God-given/society-shaped conscience. We are without excuse.
3. You are right. His Book doesn’t fit modern times. Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, pornography, blasphemy, murder, rape, stealing, lying, and hatred are still morally wrong. So we are the ones who need to change. Not the Bible.
4. How would you like God to “step in and help out” with the modern holocaust--abortion? He says the slaughter of children in the womb is wrong. If you think abortion is a woman’s choice, that is your choice. But you will have to face the Creator of the Universe (the One to whom you are giving your moral lecture) and on that Day, I don’t think you will have too much to say.

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old comment by Nemo

1. Bare assertion, no evidence. The Bible claims that Jesus coming to Jerusalem threw the city into a frenzy, and that his death caused a zombie apocalypse. No contemporary historian noticed any of this, it seems.
2. I love how Ray argues that the conscience is "society shaped". He's not wrong, of course, but it does mean that "searching your feeeeeeeeeelings" won't point you to any objective truth. So how do you decide which moral impulses are genuine and which are "worldly and corrupted"? Simple. You start with the conclusion that the Bible is true. The simple fact is, the moral impulse is explained far better by psychology than theology, unless you are willing to blatantly cherry pick the data and only allow moral impulses which fit your theology. For example, look at the people who dislike the Bible because they are morally offended (yes, you read that right) at the violence perpetrated by the guy whose personality cult is the basis of the whole thing. They are offended by the Bible in the same way that they are offended by the Quran.
3. Those first five are victimless crimes. The fact that you equate blasphemy to murder shows that you don't give a damn about the life of someone who was murdered. You just want to see the guilty, and more importantly, the "guilty" punished.
4. "Puny mortal weakling, you disagreed with me once! HOW DARE YOU? Prepare to suffer!" An RPG villain said that to me once. I killed the guy who was trying to summon him, locking him out of the realm I was in for 1000 years.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Perhaps this is one good reason why one of my big interests in films is what I refer to as 'What If'.

The above should give you a clue.

And if you have the slightest clue as to why the original Jim Carrey film was a huge success and the sequel bombed, then you wouldn't need to say what you have right now.

...but then, I suspect, is the crux of the whole matter. You'd have to get a job otherwise, instead of conning your sheeple with your BS, Banana Boy.

Acting is a proper job. It's why "Salvage Hunter" Drew Pritchard counts Jim Carrey as one of his high-end clients, along with the likes of Marco Pierre White and Ralph Lauren.

I notice you're not one of them, Ray Cumfart.

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"They hated Him because they didn’t like what He said. Neither will you, if you take the time to read what He said, in the gospels."

Do you realize you just said reading the Bible will make you hate Jesus?

"You and I are part of this “ignorant world” (as you call them), and our ignorance is willful. We know God exists because of creation (Nature) and our God-given/society-shaped conscience. We are without excuse."

"Whargarble" isn't an answer to any question. Really, that's all you said: whargarble.

"You are right. His Book doesn’t fit modern times. Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, pornography, blasphemy, murder, rape, stealing, lying, and hatred are still morally wrong."

Almost, but not quite right. There's nothing wrong with fornication or homosexuality, and blasphemy and pornography are subjective.

"How would you like God to “step in and help out” with the modern holocaust--abortion? He says the slaughter of children in the womb is wrong"

Not even an actual rebuttal. And for all that you anti choice types swear that the Bible condemns abortion you can't produce an actual quote on the subject can you?

old comment by Swede

1. Didn't God intend his son to die for the sins of Mankind?
Have you taken the time to read what He said, in the Gospels? Oh, and have you sold all your possessions and given the money to the poor yet? Why not?
2. We have natural explanations for Nature and conscience. We have every excuse.
3. Homosexuality is just as morally wrong as heterosexuality. Blasphemy is just freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The other things are still wrong, yes. The Bible does need to change, as it prescribes death to unruly children and for non-virgin brides.
4. He doesn't say slaughter of children in the womb is wrong, he says children are not counted among their people until 40 days after birth (as too many kids died during or shortly after birth back then). Keeping a pregnancy while unmarried is also a woman's choice, that she didn't have in the past.
We have a lot to say to Him, if he exists. Why does it seem like the most immoral and unjust people get the most rewards, for example? Why can men just walk away from an unwanted pregnancy, while a woman is hated by you for wanting to also "walk away" from it?