The library system all over the country has several homosexuals on staff. Now many of us believe that their lifestyle carries with it -- deviant behaviors, but nothing is done there. I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on children were male on male. Just another reason that libraries are no longer a safe haven for children.
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Yes, I recall when I was young, I was afeared to go within a mile of my local library after a homosexual member of staff sprang from behind the Roald Dahl section and raped me right there in the aisles. I would have tried to attract help, but there was a big sign saying "silence please" so I could not. On the plus side, the guy never made me pay my overdue fines. ;)
This is just a fundie anti-reading campaign isn't it?
You know, I seem to remember that a far greater proportion of sex attacks against children were 'adult on child'! Let's tackle the big problems first, hey?
Until 'adults' are no longer able to get their perverted, dirty hands on these poor innocents, no child is completely safe.
I hear some of them regularly refer to a book that talks of children "suffering", and being beaten or even killed! Sometimes they even have wild animals set upon them, yet this is all portrayed as good!
Sickest of all, some 'adults' even read this book to children. Presumably in some depraved effort to indoctrinate the child with their own evil.
Just another reason that everywhere in the world is no longer a safe haven for children.
I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on children were male on male.
Probably true - but paedophilia does not equate to homosexuality, and paedophilic preference for boys or girls is generally believed to be largely independent of any sexual orientation with respect to adults; indeed, I gather the majority of men who are attracted to young boys are functionally heterosexual in adult relationships.
Whether or not you have paedophilia is as independent of your adult sexuality as any other mental illness would be. Even if you insist on categorising homosexuality as a mental illness, which isn't done any more, the likelihood of paedophilia and its orientation would be as independent from the presence or absence of homosexuality as it would be from the presence or absence of, say, arachnophobia or OCD.
The sexual orientation of the pedophile can't be determined from the sex of the victim. Many pedophiles are what are called "fixated": they have no adult sexual orientation. They are attracted to children of one sex or the other or often both, but aren't attracted to adults of either sex at all. Most boys are molested by adults who are either fixated or exclusively heterosexual in their adult relationships. Attacks on young boys (or girls) by homosexual men are actually rare. Boys are chosen because they are more accessible: they're often given more freedom and are less closely watched by their parents.
I'm reminded of this:
"So there’s a lot of gay and lesbian people around, and that’s groovy, and they have what they’ve done is they separated sex and sexuality from what you do for a living. So you work in a bookshop? Okay, you’re good at selling books, you get on well with the customers? That’s what’s important, not who you sleep with or not. Cause in the old days, they used to say, 'Oh, you’re gay
You sell books? You probably shag the books! Yes, I’m sure! So we fire you for no reason at all
'"
Quoted from Eddie Izzard - Unrepeatable
Majority of crimes to children are of three types:
a)mothers who batter their children or neglect them(no sex involved)
b)Fathers who do the same(no sex involved either)
c)children exploited for economical reasons.
And if you're talking about pedophilia, it's commited, in 98% of cases by straight men. And by the way, it includes girls in more than 50% of the cases. The remaining 2% is committed by women and homosexual men and women.
Besides, you're explicitly excluding little girls. Are you sure you're not biased?. Before sprouting anything resemble science and statistics, have your facts straight and clear.
Damn that Benjamin Franklin! Who knew his insidious plan all along was no doubt to staff all those "free" libraries with homos, running around naked, in the rain, with only a kite to cover his nakedness and a $100 dollar bill hiding his face. I read that someplace. I think so. Yeah that's right, that's the ticket.
BUT I DIDN'T READ IT IN NO LIBERRY!!!11!!
"I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on children were male on male."
You morons believe a lot of really stupid shit, though, so that's not really very reliable. Because it's not so much male on male as it is male on child. Gay != sex offender. Sex offender != gay.
Also, I figured you'd think that libraries were bad places for children because they might LEARN something there. And we can't have that, now can we?
So gay people aren't allowed to have jobs now? Look, you might as well accept it- gay people are everywhere.
Gay does not equal pedophile. Most gay people are perfectly nice people who just happen to be attracted to those of the opposite sex. They are not planning to rape your children!
Many of them are very good with children! Understand?
Last time I was in a public library, it was full of 60+ year old women who could have passed for nuns if they were wearing the habits. So I guess librarys are full of 60+ y/o raging lesbians who love to prey on little boys and...wait what?
Sadly, most criminals in the US prisons define themselves as "Christian" or at least religious in some way at the time of admission. So uh...yeah, I guess we can demonize homosexuals to deflect the real issue.
"I believe I read somewhere...."
Then it must be true! Being a fundy means that you are saved by the blood of Jesus from ever having to cite a source, let alone a reputable one.
"I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on children were male on male."
You read wrong.
And I believe I can even infer the source for that is Paul Cameron, disreputable "scientist" who has been thrown out of numerous organizations for shoddy research. he's made his career throwing out these kinds of crap "statistics" to give bigotry against gay people a pseudo scientific veneer of validity.
First, most cases of child molestation are adult on child. pedophiles by their nature, don't want secondary sexual characteristics in their victim. So a girl or a boy, it doesn't matter generally. and most pedophiles are heterosexual.
And secondly, most cases of child molestation are not done by strangers but by someone close to the child.
In short, ,just because you read something that reinforces your prejudices, don't assume that makes it true.
"raped me right there in the aisles. I would have tried to attract help, but there was a big sign saying "silence please" so I could not."
That's fucking hilarious, I'm stealing it.
Oh, hell, it's worse than that. There are also liberals on library staffs, and a library's science section has books on evolution.
Best Fundie argument I've heard in a long time
Keep your kids away from Library's (and books) because HOMOSEXUALS LIVE THERE!!!!!!
Maybe you should educate your kids, and if they're too young to understand, they're too young to be at a library alone.
Oh, and the last stats I heard put male on female child sex crimes way into the lead.
Okay, this was fucking bothering me. Canadian Statistics
http://metrac.org/new/stat_sex.htm
- 51% of all Canadian women have experienced at least one incident of sexual or physical violence.
- 6 out of 10 victims who reported being sexually assaulted were under 17. << which would translate to 30% of Canadian women being assaulted before the age of 17>>
- In 2000, women made up the vast majority of victims of sexual assault (86%)
- 80% of sexual assaults occur at home;
- 49% in broad daylight.
- 80% of sexual assault survivors knew their abusers.
And for those with more reading time
http://www.mhp.gov.on.ca/english/sportandrec/1-overview-handouts.pdf
- Some male offenders have admitted that they targeted boys, not because they are attracted to boys, but
because involvement with boys attracted less attention than would involvement with girls. << kind of thows a giant hole into your theory doesn't it>>
Edit:
http://www.fsacc.ca/content/45357
Who Are The Attackers?
*98% of sexual attackers are men.
*80% of sexual offenders are over 18 years of age.
*44% of sexual offenders are over 35 years of age.
*50% of sexual offenders - at the time of the assault - are married or living common-law, have children, and are considered responsible members of the community.
78% of sexual attackers were men the victim knew prior to the attack.
* 35% was a close friend or acquaintance
* 32% was a past or current partner
* 11% was a family member
* 22% of sexual attackers were strangers
Who Is More Likely To Experience Sexual Assault?
Females
*82% of sexual assault victims are women or girls
Young Girls and Young Women
*Girls are 2 to 3 times more likely (than boys) to experience childhood sexual abuse.
*Women aged 18 to 24 are over three times more likely to experience sexual assault.
*The majority of date and acquaintance rape victims are young women aged 16 to 24.
Runaway children
*86% of runaway girls and 50% of runaway boys have experienced sexual abuse.
Previously assaulted women and girls
*Victims of incest or child abuse are much more likely to be revictimized.
*60% of sexual assault victims had experienced more than one sexual assault.
So the most likely child victim is a young girl attacked by someone either in or close to the family.
I love how he says that the entire nation's library system only has "several" homosexuals on staff. Like, there's three or four gay people between the thousands of libraries. I'm sure that's not what he meant, but it's funny nonetheless.
Nationwide the "library system" has more than several homosexuals on staff.
Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, it's a sexual orientation.
One can read almost any made-up statistic somewhere.
Just because many sex crimes are male/male, that does not at all mean that the sexual abuser is a homosexual. Much of sexual abuse is related to power rather than sexuality.
Idiots such as Jog, just another reason the internet isn't a safe haven for anyone.
The church system all over the country has several homosexuals on staff. Now many of us believe that their lifestyle carries with it -- deviant behaviors, but nothing is done there. I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on children were male on male. Just another reason that churches are no longer a safe haven for children.
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Well then, tell your kids to quit bending over to get books off the lower shelves. You do know that the lower shelves is where they keep all the books on evolution and witchcraft, just to lure young boys.
Shut up asshat. Just shut the fuck up.
Chances are there are gays in almost any business with a staff...so do I have to worry about getting raped at Starbucks...
It ultimately doesn't matter because one could theoretically get raped anywhere, but you could also always be struck by lightning for not believing in god. Hasn't happened to me so far, so I conclude that he either doesn't exist, or doesn't care.
As a male employee of a public library, specifically the children's room (though I'm heterosexual, but supportive.)
I would kindly ask you to shut the fuck up about Libraries being these gulags of sexual deviance. I believe plenty is done to protect children, including several cameras that cover a large portion of the library, a full time staff who try with all our abilities to constantly monitor the area, and a reminder that parents have to be in the room with their children.
In fact the bigger threat to children's safety (at least their mental safety) is intolerant fuckwits like you who come in with your Chick Tracts, or just walk up to people and try to make 'em 'Accept Jeusus, and put down that Rowling.' If that isn't enough you then give us grief about having too much 'secular' literature, even when we have an entire Christian section and no other religion (We would have other sections, but we never had a person of Islam or Bhuddism ask for one, maybe its because they have better things to do.)
So it isn't the gays I'd be worried about at the library, its you.
(Sorry for a long post, but those lot get on my nerves on the job)
Well, since women don't rape people so much, your statistics may be just right but still wrong.
I can claim that ice cream is the biggest reason for drownings since most drownings happens in the summer when they sell most of the ice cream!
The library system all over the country has several hetrosexual men on staff. I believe I read somewhere about statistics revealing that the majority of sex crimes on adults were male on female. Just another reason that libraries are no longer a safe haven for women.
Well, it makes about as much sense as Jog's!
Here's my theory...
Jog goes to Library (or libary, as he might call it), goes to desk, male librarian says Hi, Jog finds him attractive, then freaks out, goes home, furiously masturbates, cries, and five minutes later writes and posts this.
Think it holds water, anyone?
Far as I know, MOST rape is male on female, ages, dress and the like being a non-issue (unless you're one of those kinky freaks that thinks three layers of flannel on a grandma's "really hot"?)
Followed closely by adult male on youngster... but most of those are "conservative, christian father/uncle on son/daughter"
You read correctly, however, you assumed that pedophiles have an 'adult' sex drive. That's generally not true. Most pedophiles have no sexual attraction to adults and thus cannot be described accurately as either gay or straight. The vast majority of male pedophiles, however, end up in straight relationships and marriages so if you must classify them as one or the other, then they would be straight.
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