It just shows your faith. True Christians can laugh with joy when threatened with death. Most people think we are totally psychotic for that. We don't have a deathwish, we just know where we are headed is infinetely better if we do pass on somehow.
Christians should be the only people on the planet NOT afraid to die. I have a smile on my face all the time because of this knowledge. If I die, I WIN!
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Well, a dictionary definition for psychosis is
"any form of severe mental disorder in which the individual's contact with reality becomes highly distorted"
Thinking you psychotic is completely in accordance with that.
I'm willing to bet that if put in an actual situation where your life was threatened you would soil yourself and cry like a baby.
As for being afraid to die, I'm an atheist and I have no fear of death. I don't long for it, like you seem to be. I want to live a long happy life before I die, but I'm not afraid.
I'm sure there are others out there of many faiths (or none) who aren't afraid either. It isn't just a Christian thing.
Death cult,man. Fucking death cult.
These people frighten me. How can one live with a mindset like that?
Just form a damn suicide pact already.
Christians should be the only people on the planet NOT afraid to die.
Please note: He is speaking of "should". That means in reality, christians are afraid to die. Sure, because it is one of the strongest emotions, hard-coded in everybody by evolution (species without fear of death are removed from the gene-pool very fast...)
Speaking from personal experience, it's the strongly religious who are the most afraid of death. They don't "laugh with joy". My father, for example, is calling himself a devout catholic. Every time I talk with him I can smell that he is terribly afraid of death. This fear is destroying his life. He has no fun in life anymore. He is becoming more and more depressive.
May it be rather that Atheists are people who are strong personalities, who don't need an imaginary friend who promises them eternal life? And devout religious people are those who are desperately clinging on every little straw which promises them to get out of this fear?
Regarding death, I hope that I will be as strong as the ancient philosophers, who teached that "One should accept the inevitable calm and in dignity. No one is spared, there is nothing anybody can do about it."
So stop worrying, and enjoy your life.
I'm not afraid to die, I believe it to be like becoming unconscious, only you never ever wake up again.
I want to live many, many years more before I die though, as I believe that death lasts forever.
As an atheist, and can say without reservation that I am not afraid to die.
It has been my observation and experience, however, that Christians are, in fact, afraid of dying. I presume it's because, no matter how "good" a Christian they are/were, somewhere, in the back of their mind, there is/was always a tiny nagging voice telling them that their imaginary friend might still find them "guilty" and send them to hell.
I'm of the mind that he's advising his fellow RaptureReady posters to stop all their scared of the world postings and get back to pretending they're fearless under the Lord.
Too bad fear is what Fundie Theology is based on
As an atheist I have not the least little tiniest fear of death. It's no more scary than never have been born.
What I do fear is dying, I've seen way too many protracted, painful deaths for that. I intend heading to Switzerland for a OD of sodium pentobarbital when my time comes.
"If I die, I WIN!"
Like Charlie Sheen?
Certainly, we're all going to die, and though death be eternal non-existence, obviously it means we wont ever be aware of anything at all. But, while we are alive, there's no reason for spreading misery among the rest of the living, as many religionists insist on doing.
Of course, one man's spreading misery is another man's doing great works for an invisible and entirely man-made cloudster. We get one chance at life. We should take that chance and spread happiness where we can instead of letting those who are mentally ill poison us with their insanity.
Regional Godlings are not helping but are only reflecting the diseased minds of the insane and the power mad. Let's be fair here, they're usually men.
Well, as a spiritual person (though a Wiccan), I think similarly as idiot-fundie, here....Death's not the end, we're eternal, so no need to "Fear The Reaper"....that said, I don't share the context & manner of how this guy says it. NPBF is an idiot & a fundy meatball & his smug, exclusivist attutude would make the real Yeshua Bar Yoseph, that great 2000-year-old Jewish Holyman/Mystic/Mage/Social & Religious Reformer (whom followers decided to Deify & equate with the Demiurge despite their often contradictory natures) facepalm.
@Skyknight
Dionysus: You probably don't want to see Planescape: Torment, then.
Wait, there actually IS a video game where you win by dying? You've piqued my curiosity.
Well why not be a winner and drink the frickin' Kool Aid already? And like others have pointed out, the more religious people are the more afraid of dying they really are. There have been studies which showed that religious people were more likely to request life-prolonging medical treatment when faced with terminal illness or kept on life support systems than non-religious people.
"If nominated tonight, I WIN!"
Not related, but that was my first thought.
@SolomonGrundy:
> What I do fear is dying, I've seen way too many protracted, painful deaths for that. I intend heading to Switzerland for a OD of sodium pentobarbital when my time comes.
I agree absolutely. When my death comes about, I hope it is either sudden or that the worst part of any fatal illness falls in a particularly harsh winter. I want, towards the end of my chosen day, to still have the strength to walk up into the hills above my home, to sit at the edge looking down over the vale and to take enough sleeping pills to ensure a peaceful end from hypothermia. I will leave a letter pinned to my jacket, apologising to whoever finds my body and asking them not to be upset.
Choice and self-control define dignity. I certainly won't be making an appeal to superstition when my time comes.
"Christians should be the only people on the planet NOT afraid to die."
Too bad there are atheists, Pagans, Muslims, Jews who aren't afraid to die. Why? It is inevitable. It is a natural part of life.
"I have a smile on my face all the time because of this knowledge. If I die, I WIN!
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That sounds suicidal.
And no one really knows where they are headed after death.
Eh, you call this fundie, I call it the logical conclusion if you believe in an afterlife.
That being said; commit suicide, meet Jesus.
Very telling about the psychology of Christianity. Smug superiority, masochism, and an anti-life attitude which is almost like nihilism.
It is also extremely similar to the mindset of the Islamic martyrdom suicide bomber.
I agree with Solomon Grundy. I'm an atheist and have no fear of death. Dying, however, is another matter. As an official old man I might add that Christians have always seemed to me to be considerably more reluctant to die than non-Christians.
So what's with everyone else on the your forum shaking in their boots, convinced the government is going to round them up and gas them.
That's a fine philosophy, by all means, it makes sense. If your so convinced of this heaven thing, that is.
Still, I call bullshit. I have never in my life seen a christian who isn't terrified of death, and I seriously doubt your actually an exception.
No matter how I interpret this, it sounds suicidal. I'm voting it down because he was obviously suicidal without anything to do with his religion. As to the people who have inevitably suggested that he go through with it, you are just making it worse.
> True Christians can laugh with joy when threatened with death.
Oh yes, and some go further - they can laugh with joy when they hear that they can sacrifice themselves for glory of God by blowing infidels up!
*frown* ...Or wasn't that that what the other faith was doing? Oh well, some days you just can't tell fundies apart.
Y'see, this is one of the emotional reasons why I'm an atheist. How can you possibly go on living thinking that you'd be so much happier dead? If people really, honestly believed that, they wouldn't stop at red lights and they'd think murder was the best thing they could do for a good person.
@dionysus: Yes. And you WILL die in the course of the game. Many times. The "right" deaths will unlock crucial plot points, memories and abilities.
You'll either love, or loathe, the ending. But I guarantee you won't forget it. There's a reason why Torment has been referred to by some critics as the greatest novel you've ever played.
To add one to the list...another game where it's a foregone conclusion that you're gonna die is "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream," based on the short story by Harlan Ellison. In fact, if you play the game properly, not only is it unavoidable, it's the only way to ensure the "good" ending.
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Sounds like Christians make dandy suicide bombers.
Also, how did we get to talking about games where the object is to die, and not mention Karoshi?
Dexter
Dear Mr. not Perfect,
lets just try something:
It just shows your faith. True Muslims can laugh with joy when threatened with death. Most people think we are totally psychotic for that. We don't have a deathwish, we just know where we are headed is infinetely better if we do pass on somehow.
Muslims should be the only people on the planet NOT afraid to die. I have a smile on my face all the time because of this knowledge.
... and those 72 virgins of course.
See? You are as creepy as those islamistic suicide bombers.
If I die, I WIN!
We too, so we have a WIN-WIN situation here.
"Christians should be the only people on the planet NOT afraid to die."
Should we be expecting suicide bombers like your fellow mulims produce? Because they're not afraid to die either. Maybe the two of you could get together and prove who is least afraid of dying.
"It just shows your faith."
Care to put that to the ultimate test then? Mark 16:18. Start playing around with an Australian Inland Taipan. Drink Kool-Aid heavily laced with cyanide. I'm suuuuuuure nothing will happen to you, amirite? Remember: if you don't, then you don't have much faith in your 'faith'.
Troll4Life, I'm looking at you .
"True Christians can laugh with joy when threatened with death."
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Perv. So you lot on Ruptured Retards admit that you do have a Death Wish, eh? So why not do the above - drink the special Kool-Aid? 909 people at Jonestown can't be wrong.
"Most people think we are totally psychotic for that."
You are. Your point?
"We don't have a deathwish, we just know where we are headed is infinetely better if we do pass on somehow."
Not so much 'if', but 'when' and 'how'. Certainly not via your J-man blowing his horn, going down and sucking you off.
[/Spartan Laconic Wit]
>:D
Should I accelerate that process? No? Apparently life isn't so bad then if you'd rather wait instead of just getting killed somehow.
More importantly, have you ever considered that you're actually MASSIVELY afraid of death and need to lie to yourself to make the idea more appealing and less scary?
Dis sho be da troof, I'se a true Christian and I ain't afear'd ob deff, I'se gwine to Hebben when I die. But I ain't ready to go to da hereafter jus' yet, da Lawd still has a plan fo' me. But I know one day da Lawd will take me from dis worl' fo' bigga and betta thangs.
@dionysus:
There's also a game called "Five minutes to kill yourself" on the Internet and iPhone. The main character has to commit suicide (harder than it sounds) before he has to attend a meeting.
It's about as fucked up as it sounds.
Edit: Was "fifteen minutes" but I looked it up and it turns out it was five.
@Atheissimo: The Afghan people don't fucking speak Arabic , for the most part. They speak a variant of Persian, and/or Pashtun, or Uzbek or half a dozen other languages. The religious scholars and a small ethnic minority know Arabic.
Yay, we're all so ignorant.
You know what? I reckon you're just a braggart. I bet if you really were facing death, you'd shit your pants.
Be careful what you wish for.....
@Egg
"Charlie Sheen became a fundie?"
First there was Tom Cruise Control and his sofa-hopping antics on Oprah Winfrey. Then that leaked $cientology video on YouTube (Two words: Project Chanology). But at least he calmed down; he - and Cameron Diaz - even appeared in the previous series of "Top Gear":
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Chuck Sheen has finally proved that one can go beyond la-la in La-La-land. His father and brother Emilio have had their times as hellraisers, but I bet especially Martin Sheen wonders where he went wrong with him. This part of the family has reached the top, but in Hollywood's rarified air, he's gone out of control - in freefall; unlike another Chuck (Yeager) who, after he took up a Lockheed NF-104 Starfighter which (after experiencing flame-out) went into a flat spin - at least he ejected and parachuted safely.
Charlie has activated the self-destruct. There are but three places left for him: the nick (jail), nuthouse, or graveyard.
Makes one glad you're not a celebrity, eh? Earth to Charlie, Earth to Charlie. Are you receiving us...?
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