I’m a little surprised that none of you have mentioned “Intelligent Design”. Science has proven that a single cell is irreversible complex, being that it is impossible to have evolved. Both Christian and Non-Christian scientists now agree on this fact. AS a matter of fact one atheist scientist has give a person better odds of rolling dice and coming up with six’s every time fifty thousands times in a roll.
Intelligent Design has changed my faith life forever and I thank God!
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Except that "science" has done no such thing (indeed, most common examples of an "irreducibly complex" object are not at all irreducibly complex).
Besides, if you think 6^50,000 is big, you haven't seen me do my thing when it comes to probability. *insert evil grin here*
Curtis, anyone who told you this was LYING through their teeth. Not only is Intelligent Design a thoroughly debunked theory that doesn't even qualify as science, but no sensible and intellectually honest person (Christian, non-Christian, whatever) with any scientific knowledge at all believes it, or even ever did , because its very foundation is nonscientific!
Those few who cling to it either are completely deluded (such as some of the original perpetrators of it who still claim validity for it), or were simply tricked by the liars who still try to promote it as if it were scientific (easily done to those who have no real understanding of science), or have a major agenda that depends on believing it (such as the Christian originators of the theory). It is an intellectually bankrupt theory, Curtis, no more "scientific" than phrenology.
~David D.G.
We need a suitably dismissive shorthand term for any argument which resorts to a bizarre probability reference for support. Something like 'Poisson's Law', perhaps, or 'Argumentum ad Binomial Bollocks'. Suggestions?
Okay, wait. A single cell is impossibly complex, to the point where individual humans can barely hope to understand anything about them beyond the mere basics. Therefore, it is more likely that, instead of said cells being the result of several billion years' worth of iteration and reiteration of natural biological processes passing through trillions of different possible combinations of the conditions upon which said processes rely, some magic man in the sky, who is somehow so much smarter than humanity that he can just THINK UP the entire UNIVERSE on a whim, just poofed them on some planet, then wrote a book about it and left.
Yeah. Nothing wrong with that.
Behe pushed this irreducibly complex bullshit and was properly owned at the Dover trial for it. His absolute proof for it was already debunked.
Besides the fact that there's no reason to accept Christian dogmatics for even suggesting that there's a tipping point that makes a biological creature too complex.
I think you would want to consult experts in the field about such thing and you might think Behe, having the credentials and all would be that but he isn't, his theory has been disproven and he obviously has an alternative agenda.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Improbable_things_happen
Do you want to witness an "improbable" event right now in your very own home?
Take a standard deck of 52 cards, shuffle it well and spread the cards in a line. Look at them well. Assuming an ideally random shuffle, the probability of a card sequence in this exact order is...
1 in 80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000
Really. And yet despite this very low probability, you just got that sequence.
In a blog post about the Lenski affair, biologist Björn Brembs came up with a hilarious alternative definition:
"I think I have now finally understood what "irreducibly complex" really means: a statement, fact or event so simple it cannot be simplified any further, but still too complex to be grasped by a creationist."
Science has proven no such thing, silly. Only Behe and a couple of other Cretinists now agree on that fact.
Honey, even IF evolution were to be debunked, it wouldn't mean that ID automatically replaces it. ID still has to provide evidence in its favor, which aforementioned Behe failed to do in the Kitzmiller vs Dover trial.
It took the first life on Earth a couple of billion years to get from single-celled organisms to multicellular life. Imagine how many dice-rolls you would manage in that time...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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