[On Native Americans]
Who cares, they didn't build shit and they didn't evolve beyond tribalism (which we are regressing to). They simply claimed the land before others did. You see any great structures or indian cities? Nope. White people very much built the country and don't you even try to pull "da black slaves built it" because that's a huge exaggeration. Slavery isn't effective without wages.
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Hmmph, what a self-righteous idiot.
"Slavery isn't effect without wages"
I was wrong. This person isn't a self-righteous idiot.
That's an insult to self-righteous idiots.
This guy actually thinks slaves were paid? Wow. WOOOOW.
"Slavery isn't effective without wages."
Tell that to the Romans or the Egyptians or any other society that ever kept slaves including the US.
Without black people the USA would not have such a large economy as it did during the early 20th century from all the cotton and extra labor after emancipation.
"who cares, they didn't build shit"
We care asshole. Someones worth isn't in their civilization or the civilization their ancestors built. If anyone is the tribalistic ones in this nation it's you and your ilk.
Search for pueblos and then tell Native Americans did not build anything...
And I am not even counting the great cities of Meso- and South America.
What the whites built was an assortment of shopping malls. America is now a cross-country, coast-to-coast commercial cesspool. Quite the achievement, really. (Thank you, George Carlin for that rant)
America's government is based on the Iroquois Confederacy. Ruins of permanent settlements dot the continent and are especially impressive in South America but are in ruins as a result of conquest and pushing the remaining population into reserves. The country' infrastructure was built on the backs of slaves and horribly mistreated foreign workers.
But if you think slaves were paid I fear someone might have to explain to you how books work let alone history or the economy.
"You see any great structures or indian cities?"
Yes, I have. Just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they don't exist.
"Slavery isn't effective without wages."
Slavery isn't slavery with wages.
(Yes, it's an oversimplification...)
You see any great structures or indian cities? Nope.
Uh, yes, yes I fucking do, when in my own county in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee, I can go visit the ruins of the giant fucking mounds made centuries before white man even knew the place existed. I can do the same in basically every middle of nowhere place in the Midwest and into the South.
White people very much built the country
So what, they built it for the sake of everyone. The Constitution doesn't say "you aren't welcome unless you're white", since the bigots in those days most cared if you were Catholic or Protestant.
Slavery isn't effective without wages.
Is this a secret reference to wage slavery or something? If it is, you're a goddamn sociopath, if it isn't you're a godamn idiot.
Cahokia.
You lose.
Mesa Verde.
You lose AGAIN.
The Mississippian Mounds.
You lose a billion times over.
And let's not even get into the Native American peoples of Central and South America, because holy hell.
How ignorant and repulsive.
Other poster already pointed to facts that crush your ridiculous assertion.
And WE care, we who want knowledge instead of beliefs.
People wanting to understand the past to avoid the mistakes and the wrong done.
While the North American Indians were not known for their grand structures the central and south American tribes were. The Mayan and the Aztec were grand cultures with unique buildings and structures.
Even then thinking all Indians lived in teepee like huts and other simple structures shows how little you know.
Heck, thinking that people are inferior just because they live in teepees and straw huts is enough to qualify someone as an ignoramus (and an elitist jackass)
Efficient use of resources is an intelligence lost on first world countries anymore, it seems. Myself included.
The Inca probably were the one of single most technologically advanced cultures on the planet before the Renaissance.
They terraformed the Amazon basin before it was cool (and did a much better job of using it for agriculture then modern society does). While having the most sophisticated logistical system the planet had ever seen to that point, and probably until the advent of railroads. They were also illiterate.
manoogian, the real world isn't like a 4x game, technology doesn't progress linearly. Consider for a moment that the native populations of the Americas had no contact with the whole rest of the world before agriculture was a thing.
Everything that was invented on the American continent before colonization was invented independently of the rest of the world. Such inventions include recipes for stucco which are superior with regard to insulation than most low end modern analogs, whole systems of mathematics and astronomic knowledge (knowledge that was more advanced then most European systems until the invention of the telescope).
You have no understanding of history, nor any understanding of the process of invention. You have a naive view of the development of culture that must come more from cartoons than from actual history.
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