[Replying to a post about anti-white indoctrination in universities]
I would suggest that even by this stage it is already too late and that the majority of anti-White indoctrination begins from when the child is plonked in front of the television, through nursery school (I have seem some heart-breaking propaganda plastered on the walls at one infant school), the exposure to large numbers of non-Whites in most large town & city state schools, the promotion of homosexuality, Jewish influences on general trends, popular culture and the curriculum, veiled communist inculcations throughout the academic period, anti-German (Nazi) sentiment etc. Not everything rubs off, but youngsters certainly leave school well primed to become atomised, consuming units with no faith in their collective future and no love of their blood inheritance.
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That has to be one of the most ironic names of all times...
the majority of anti-White indoctrination begins from [
] the exposure to large numbers of non-Whites in most large town & city state schools,[
]
OMG, the children will see that not everyone is white! And they may even realize that these non-white people are just ordinary humans, like themselves! The horror!
anti-German (Nazi) sentiment etc.
Fuck you, asshole!
I have seem some heart-breaking propaganda plastered on the walls at one infant school
Let me guess, it said something like "Everyone is equal?" Or simply a picture of someone who isn't white, blonde haired, and blue eyed?
Oh no, there are people who are slightly different!
Shock!
Horror!
End of Life as we know it!
No...wait....DontPanic is just an idiot.
I think what you call anti-White indoctrination normal people would call socialization.
"anti-German (Nazi) sentiment"
Being anti-Nazi does not mean one is anti-German. When I was in Prague there was a beer festival going on that was attended by a lot of German folks and every single one that I met and had a conversation with was a lovely, intelligent and progressive human being. The Nazis were invaders and parasites, nothing more, and the first country to be invaded by them was Germany.
@Mech610: I disagree with the sentiment that the Nazis were "invaders". Germany today and the Germans today are a very different thing not only from the people of Nazi Germany but also from the state of the German nation that came before.
(Part II)
Sorry for the rant, but I had to say it.
@UHM
Thank you for that post. All very sobering and a testament to the Nazis' destruction of the Germany so many saw as the cultural motor of Europe replaced by one which sees itself and is seen by others in such terms (although I am not sure how much this is true of the citizens of the former GDR with its "first victims of the Nazis" myth. Furthermore, your point about the FPÖ might also be extended to Mussolini's apologists in Italy). And yet, the Nazis did not commit their butchery alone. To be sure, many of those who fought with them were settling local grievances which had nothing to do with Nazism or Germany, but there were also many true believers, even in the US and Britain. It has only been relatively recently that three countries I know relatively well - France, the Netherlands, and Switzerland - have begun to confront the depths of their own complicity and the myths of national anti-fascist resistance which allowed them to ignore the dark side of their past for so long.
Leibniz is a rather richer and more complex thinker than the "best of all possible worlds" idea allows, his uncritical students and Voltaire's satire left a popular legacy that was greatly damaging, both to him and to us.
Yes, I see. Would I be correct in assuming that the answer is stomping, and more stomping? Should we be teaching our children that he who stomps hardest, er, stomps hardest, it certainly sounds like it's the white thing to do?
Perhaps parents who are concerned for their children's future can look forward to a cowardly, wretched and darker Stomp-World. We needed worry about mental health issues then, we'd all be raving maniacs.
Survival of the maddest.
@UHM:
I propably shouldn't post just after coming home from the pub, but what the hell.
I wouldn't really think about hitting someone (I am a big softy really), but you got my general feelings right.
I am just tired of all the Godwins and the idiots trying to use our country's history to justify their idiocy and make some cheap points.
Real people died because of Hitler and the nazis. They deserve better than to be used for cheap political "points". But I am tired of writing the same things over and over, partly because the sane readers on this side will already know them.
So I decided that to answer any such cheap attempt to "cash in" on the nazis, I will just answer with a "Fuck you, asshole!". It will save me so much effort and time.
Oh, and another addendum to UHM's thoughts:
I think it is especially important to realize that the nazis were not some inhuman monsters. They were humans like everyone else.
It is very important to remember that. Anyone, at anytime, could be sucked into such a movement.
I always insisted not to condemn anyone living in that time, because I myself cannot be sure that I wouldn't have been a nazi myself . And no one else can be sure.
I feel some pride that I come from the same town as some of the most famous members of the "Weiße Rose", but I cannot be sure that I would have the same courage as them.
I hope I would, but I also hope that I will never be forced to find out.
@UHM
Okay, fair enough. However I still contend that despite the pieces of German history and society that allowed the Nazis to come to power, they were still parasites feeding off of those insecurities. I was mostly saying it the way I did as a way to show solidarity with the German people. While I assume it's a different feeling for actual Germans and people in Europe, many of the Americans I grew up around held to the belief that we shouldn't blame the Germans for what happened. We tend to see the Nazis as being separate from German society on the whole, so that should explain my 'parasites and invaders' comment. Maybe this is incorrect and I'm just showing my ignorance on the matter. But that said I personally like to view the Germans that created incredible art and music and literature and introduced the idea of public schooling for the peasantry to Europe as being separate from the abhorrent and regressed philosophy of Nazism.
Again, maybe it's not my place, that's just how I feel. I thank you for your well reasoned and insightful comment however.
@Kuno
That is a very good point, however I would like to imagine that while evil lives in all of us, our capacity for good is much greater. Discussing the origins of Nazism and attempting to apply reason to a decidedly unreasonable time is extremely difficult and it's been a subject that I, as someone who has studied the period extensively have struggled with. It may be the idealist in me, but I've always had trouble figuring out how the world allowed things to go as far as they, or how even the German people allowed things to go as far as they did. That being said, I agree, it isn't our place to pass judgement on the average German citizen that allowed Nazi fervor to possess them. We can condemn the acts and condemn and judge their leaders that used the people's insecurities as a tool for political power, but we cannot say with all certainty that if we were in the shoes of the average German, we wouldn't have done the same.
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