And as regards to literal physical miracles, apart from the ones recorded and witnessed in the bible, they stll happen today, only in much bigger scale. You don't hear about it on the news, because who would believe it anyway!?? Nonetheless, the dead are still raised, the sick are healed, and the broken hearted restored. Don't believe me, ask the 200,000,000 million Chinese Christains.
If your deist can't do any of those things, that is a very insignificant, powerless god you believe in
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Yep, all of those things we can do with technology today.
On the dead people issue, it's only a matter of how long they've been dead.
ask the 200,000,000 million Chinese Christains.
Are you quite sure there are that many of them?
If your deist can't do any of those things, that is a very insignificant, powerless god you believe in
My god can beat up your god?
Wow. 200 TRILLION christian chinese? Shit, man. That's a lot of people who believe in a god who outright lied to adam and eve, then proceeded to go around and commit horrors and atrocities, like wiping out cities, or even trying to wipe out all sentient life on earth!
You guys are some pretty hardcore masochists, aren't you?
Fundy Word Redefinition of 'deist'... it's an idea about God, darling, not a different God.
If miracles were as commonplace as you say, they would not be hard to believe, and they would be on the daily news. Or they would be so *yawn* as to not make the news. The dead stay dead, sometimes medicine cures the sick, and I know quite a few broken-hearte bastards who stay that way.
"You don't hear about it on the news, because who would believe it anyway!??"
Jesus on a grilled cheese sandwich gets on the news but 200 quadrillion chinese rise from the dead and nobody notices?
And, Tris, when you have to make up miracles, that is an imaginary, non-existant, unreal god you believe in.
This guy is an arrogant asshole--I've been watching the debate on Facebook, and have joined in a few times.
In essence, when his assertions are shown to be wrong, he simply moves on without acknowledging it.
Even the most optimistic estimates are 100 million Chinese Christians(and these are by dubious sources like Pat Robertson). The Chinese government claims about 16 million(once again dubious source). Most independent sources claim between 24 to 40 million(sounds about right). As far as the dead raised(prove it), sick healed(possible with missionary doctors,if you are talking about faith-healing, prove it again) and broken-hearted restored(I guess they run a dating service?). I have yet to meet a "deist" who claims that he can do any of those things since "deists" are worshippers not deities (which are Gods). And unlees you have some proof for your claims I will consider your God as insignificant enough to be followed by liars.
There are not 200,000,000 million people in the whole world let alone in china.
Nonetheless, the dead are still raised, the sick are healed, and the broken hearted restored.
Also, the living are struck down, the sick die and hearts are broken every day. I guess that's Satan's job.
First, look up what deist/deism is, you want deity. Then, show me a dead guy who came back to life, I hope the embalming fluid didn't get into him first. And don't start with that dancing sun nonsense I had in high school (a teacher even told me you can see the Eucharist in it when the miracle occurs, right), sundogs are not miracles and neither are mass hallucinations.
Yeah, what a very insignificant, powerless god that'd be. I'll bet he couldn't even fight off heathens in iron chariots, let alone get 200 trillion Chinese to worship him.
All those poor christians and not a camera in sight to record even one single example of these great miracles. How inconvenient for you otherwise you would have a least a small bit of fact to back up your assertion. However, as you don't have any evidence, I think you’re lying your ass off.
"200,000,000 milion chinese christians."
And you still want me to take you seriously?
200-million-million? Sure, I’m sure nobody would be interested in those piddly chinese stories. Come on numb nuts, if that were happening, everyone would want to know. I’m sure actual miracles would change the hearts of many. And it’s Deity, a deist is someone
oh never mind. You think zombies are crawling out of the ground on a daily basis. Reality has no place in your thoughts.
Wow, he believes there are more Chinese Christians than there are people on the earth, while insisting that he knows about miracles that nobody has ever witnessed, and refuses to acknowledge that he's been called on his BS.
Sounds like he's been taking George W. Bush Debating classes.
So is the miracle that your god is hiding 200,000,000,000,000 Chinese people? If he's hiding them somewhere, how can I ask them anything? I am confused.
Darling, if those miracles were happening in China(why there, anyway?), thousands of religious magazines and testimonies in religious media would be heard. Honestly, there may be miracles, but just tell me a quick answer to this question, what all-powerfull God needs to make a show to infringe the very rules he sets to make him known?, and if he does it in order for us to believe, why don't we know it anyway because we don't believe?. Again, it's a vicious cyrcle and lying for Jesus is still lying.
methinks he means bacteria or something.. 200million million and unheard of can only be bacteria, not people....
Chinese Bacteria who are christians... little microscopic churches etc...
Nonetheless, the dead are still raised, Defibrillation the sick are healed, medicine and the broken hearted restored. again, medicine(psychology is not testable, therefore not scientific)
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Since 200,000,000 million people is the combination of the populations of Eurasia, I highly doubt that you have gathered data correctly.
and yet there are so many things your god can't do - stop wars, end poverty, end hunger, stop tsunamis and hurricanes, stop bridges from collapsing, return to earth as he promised.... the list just goes on and on.
Um, Jesus, can't you send the liars somewhere else? I can't get a straight answer from any of them, and they all blame me for causing their lies.
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So when a giant tsunami, hurricane, or whatever destroys where you live and kills hundreds of people, you can just gather up 200,000,000,000,000,000 christians to pray hard enough so that everyone is revived and all the damage is restored.
Sure, why not?
If there were that many chinese christians that might be somehing , but there aren't and it's not. (thats 200 trillion)
FSM might be small but he is FIERCE, iron chariots are no problem to his noodly goodness !
Confused?
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