On Origin of life:
"Humans have emotions. However, I have never seen chemicals in my laboratory expressing love to each other. Have you?"
"We can study the composition - chemical, biological, physical etc. of a chicken egg. However, given those chemicals, we cannot produce a chicken egg. Thus, it is high time when noble prize should be awarded to hens for laying eggs."
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Computers can play music, movies, games, surf the internet. Have you ever seen electrons performing complex mathematical equations or playing movies? Have you ever even seen an electron? Obviously computers are powered by Jesus, that's the Truth!
"Thus, it is high time when noble prize should be awarded to hens for laying eggs"
Finally someone agrees with me.
Humans have emotions. However, I have never seen chemicals in my laboratory expressing love to each other. Have you?"
So what? Rocks don't express love, water doesn't express love... what's your point?
"We can study the composition - chemical, biological, physical etc. of a chicken egg. However, given those chemicals, we cannot produce a chicken egg. Thus, it is high time when noble prize should be awarded to hens for laying eggs."
And, studying compostition is often the first step toward understanding cause, function and effect.
I think YOU just laid an egg, MG.
Ok, it's like saying, "have you seen a necklace stealing a 5000$ convertible(because we humans, following the analogy, are stolen pricey objects)?". What science says it's that emotions are followed by the release of some sort of CHEMICALS, not that they have to feel them.
And concerning the chicken egg, it can't be synthesised because you need not only raw materials that can't be synthesised in a lab but also certain conditions that can't be reproduced in a lab either.
Nice point, Doctor Whom.
And while chemicals might not express love to each other, they sure can react violently with each other... (okay, bad pun, I know)
"I have never seen chemicals in my laboratory expressing love to each other. Have you?"
I can't say for certain it was 'love', but I've seen a few carboxylate groups that were really attracted to water!
And little Polly Ethyleneterephthalate definitely loved Ben Zene, you only had to take your eye of their flask for a second and they were all over each other!
We can study the composition - chemical, biological, physical etc. of horseshit. However, given those chemicals, we cannot produce horseshit.
You can look at the grammatical, logical, intellectual etc. compositions of an arguement but still you can't produce a decent arguement for creationism.
by the way when someone says etc. it usually means they don't know of any more examples.
AL: "We can study the composition - chemical, biological, physical etc. of horseshit. However, given those chemicals, we cannot produce horseshit."
Well, I believe Garg just did... at least mental horseshit.
Craig Venter has recently created the first artificial organism.
Give it a few more years, then you'll eat your words.
"Humans have emotions. However, I have never seen chemicals in my laboratory expressing love to each other. Have you?"
Yes.
My laboratory is any bar in a city where the Navy conducts port-of-calls. Sailors on liberty will collect a wide variety of chemical toxins with which to pollute their bloodstream at the slightest opportunity.
These chemicals will react with the chemistry of their nervous systems, especially their brains, and generate emotional changes almost immediately. The changes are cumulative and will become exaggerated with the introduction of large amounts of chemical toxins.
These include expressions of love for shipmates, expressions of hatred, regrets for actions taken many years previously, attempts to call former girlfriends as 0200 hours to say ‘you were the one’, attempts to call the wife at 0300 hours to apologize for a mistake made during their courtship. They will pick fights with best friends, total strangers, the bouncer, that FUCKING ASSHOLE in the mirror, and I have seen one guy punch a urinal in retaliation (“It pissed on me so I hit it.” “Dude,you FLUSHED IT!”). They lose the ability to control anger, love, attraction, tongue, fingers, but can play music well past their ability to walk onto the stage.
They will befriend enemies, superior officers, non-quals, people on different ships, that GREAT GUY in the mirror, and once a poster of David Bowie.
The vulnerability of human emotions to chemical balances in the mind lead me to conclude that emotions are chemicals, or are at least heavily influenced by them. If there’s a non-corporeal soul complicit in the decision to wake up one’s wife at three o’clock in the morning (her time),then it’s a pretty useless accessory.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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