Speaking of fundies say the darnest thing, does it not occur to anyone at all how totally werid even having that site is? I mean honestly, WHY spend the money and time (hours upon hours) searching for werid comments by Christians? Do they not have a life? Are they really that bored? Are their ego that deflated they have to pick on the weakest and most immature Christians to make themselves look smart?
Where IS the logic is doing this? I don't know of one single Christian that goes lurking around athesit message boards looking for off the wall remarks and them posting them all on a site for other Christians to laugh about. To me, its extremely immature and something I could see junior high school kids doing for laughs and with too much time on their hands. I actually feel sorry for those involved in running that site because they must have hours and hours of freetime....meaning they have no families or friends to spend time with...and are apparently bored out of their minds to be stooping to doing something so low. But I guess I would rather see them pick on us then getting hooked on porn sites and throwing their money away there!
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Well, considering it's a group/volunteer effort, none of us expends a lot of time or money on the project, and it provides an interesting look into the extremes of Christian thought.
Plus, it's fun.
"I don't know of one single Christian that goes lurking around athesit message boards looking for off the wall remarks and them posting them all on a site for other Christians to laugh about."
Thats because atheists don't produce the massive volume of high intensity stupidity that fundies do.
"To me, its extremely immature and something I could see junior high school kids doing for laughs "
Junior high school kids would not be as stupid as the posters on fundie boards. Junior high school kids would laugh at how stupid fundies are.
"I actually feel sorry for those involved in running that site because they must have hours and hours of freetime....meaning they have no families or friends to spend time with...and are apparently bored out of their minds to be stooping to doing something so low."
We would much rather do something useful, like investigate biology,
but the fundies in power forbid it, or the big bang, but the fundies in power won't fund the space telescope, or find a solution to human caused climate change, but the fundies in power claim it doesn't exist. The obvious response to the situation is to demonstrate how stupendously stupid fundies are so people will stop listening to their crap.
Struck a nerve, have we?
Seriously, the kind of fundie moron whose postings make it onto this site are the same misinformed know-it-alls who are trying to get their wacko religious views taught in our schools, who vote for incompetent candidates solely on the basis of their stand on abortion, who try to keep Plan B off the market, who make a national spectacle out of poor Terry Schiavo for their own purposes, who discriminate against gays, Jews and blacks, etc. So these are people who are affecting our lives with their nonsense.
You do, and you say, "that´s why they´re going to hell". It´s not immature, I don´t know how you dare to say that, specially with people who say so many nonsenses. What are we guilty of, of quoting EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY IN YOUR FORUMS WITH PRIDE, and it turns out that it´s ridicule to the rest of the world?
It's my understanding that it only takes Yahweh a few minutes a day to keep this site up. And I can't speak for others, but I know I don't troll the net for comments. I just come across them from time to time, and when I think "Wow, and I thought they couldn't get any worse", that's when I submit a post.
I don't understand why Christians in general get so uppity about this site. I'm a Christian, and I think it's a great chance to examine what far right folks are saying. I first learned of it because other people were talking about how bad it is on the forum I mod, and it just made me... more curious.
Oh well. I guess if you question anything, then you're a liberal, blood sucking, unAmerican lunatic with no job.
Same post, zie says:
The biggest thing that should occur to them would be that we are simply infallable human beings, just like they are.
So, what, zie thinks that infallible means that it makes mistakes? Is that how zie thinks of the Bible?
"Speaking of fundies say the darnest thing, does it not occur to anyone at all how totally werid even having that site is?”
This from a man who believes plants were created before the sun was?
“I mean honestly, WHY spend the money and time (hours upon hours) searching for werid comments by Christians?”
Well, firstly it doesn’t really cost that much. You probably put more in the collection plate each month. Secondly, well, it’s fun.
“Do they not have a life?”
Yes. Mainly because we have not enslaved ourselves to a dogmatic totalitarian structure.
“Are they really that bored?”
Yes
“Are their ego that deflated they have to pick on the weakest and most immature Christians to make themselves look smart?”
Sadly, while I agree with you that these are, in fact, the weakest and most immature Christians, unfortunately we are in the minority with that opinion. These people are spreading their foolishness and others are listening to them.
”Where IS the logic is doing this?”
This from a man who believes that it was possible to fit 7 (of the “clean” animal) or 2 (he “unclean” ones) of every single type of animal that exists on a single boat, along with enough food to feed them for several months. Come on, elephants and rhinos qualify as “clean” animals
“I don't know of one single Christian that goes lurking around athesit message boards
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Christians don’t go looking for these sites? Then how did you find FSTDT?
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looking for off the wall remarks and them posting them all on a site for other Christians to laugh about.”
Um, you do realize that’s essentially exactly what you are doing right now
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“To me, its extremely immature and something I could see junior high school kids doing for laughs and with too much time on their hands.”
Criticizing and satirizing an idea or opinion you find laughable is not immature, it’s actually quite an adult pastime. However, I do concede that there are more than a few lamentable moments on FSTDT where it does dissolve into what you describe. But come on, with the kinds of things the fundies say, how couldn’t it?
“I actually feel sorry for those involved in running that site because they must have hours and hours of freetime...”
You feel sorry for someone with free time? I sure as hell don’t. Take a look around you; the primary motivation of most of the human beings you see is to have as much free time to do the things they enjoy as possible. Besides, you make time for the things that are important to you.
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meaning they have no families or friends to spend time with..”
Really? I thought it just meant they had free time. So I guess you view spending time with family and friends as work
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and are apparently bored out of their minds to be stooping to doing something so low.”
Well, I’d rather be bored out of my mind than not have one, but you’re essentially arguing from personal incredulity here. You, personally, don’t see how this could be interesting to anyone, so therefore it isn’t interesting to anyone. I myself don’t see how anyone could be so bored as to, oh, I don’t know, spend 5 hours in a church on Sunday or watch NASCAR, but then again, I recognize the fact that not everyone is like me.
”But I guess I would rather see them pick on us then getting hooked on porn sites and throwing their money away there!"
Um
what makes you think we aren’t hooked on porn sites? After all, you have to do something in the 10-minute cool-down.
ANswer: Because it's good to have a record of the rise of the American (and British and Australian, too, I suppose) Taliban conveniently agglomerated all in one place. While we may laugh at the stupidity, it's the same sort of laughter that is usually elicited by the striking of one's funnybone. There are certain situations that are so painful that laughter and tears aren't too far apart.
The pain, by the way, is caused by the fact that while we live in a time when vast seas of real, useful, reproducable information are available to anyone who wants it, there are still large numbers of people who will choose ignorance and simplistic even superstitious responses to the world. It's very sad, and very painful to those of us who value reason over faith, particularly when the form that faith takes leads others to reject the world, to believe that scientists are cooking up conspiracies to misguide the faithful, and who insist in blind obedience to old books and stale dogmas no matter how much evidence is presented that the world around us doesn't conform to them at all.
Fundamentalism is a hammer of ignorance striking the ulnar nerve of human progress. We laugh because it's a more pleasant way to watch the erosion of the last 400 years of advancement and understanding than crying would be.
It's spelled "weird."
"I actually feel sorry for those involved in running that site because they must have hours and hours of freetime....meaning they have no families or friends to spend time with...and are apparently bored out of their minds to be stooping to doing something so low."
Yeah, when we're not laughing at you, we feel sorry for you, too.
I have family and friends. I have truly wonderful friends, but thanks for the ignorant, judgemental comment.
"But I guess I would rather see them pick on us then getting hooked on porn sites and throwing their money away there!"
"THEN getting hooked on porn sites?"
So we should make fun of you first and later get hooked on porn? OK, if you insist.
Sadly, many of the posts on these boards are made by adult fundamentalist Christians that are convinced of their vast intelligence and superiority to athiests/liberals/homosexuals/women/etc etc etc... Not neccessarily the "weakest and most immature" Christians." Well, I guess that depends on your definitions of "weak" and "immature."
Where IS the logic is doing this? I don't know of one single Christian that goes lurking around athesit message boards looking for off the wall remarks and them posting them all on a site for other Christians to laugh about.
Where are these athesit message boards? Seems to me we take care of making fun of fundie atheists as well.
I'd be interested in how much time moonglow wastes on Bibleforums.org.
You can get porn for nada, moonglow. As I assume you know. Bad comparison.
As for FSTDT, why shouldn't we call you on your bullshit? You attack people just like us every single day with your hatred and prejudice.
I mean honestly, WHY spend the money and time (hours upon hours) searching for werid comments by Christians?
To let this site stand as a warning to humanity of the dangers of head-in-the-sand religious fundamentalism.
Yes, this coming from a guy who spends years of his life pandering to his delusions online...
Sorry butthead, but burning strawmen isn't only fun, it's educational.
Are their ego that deflated they have to pick on the weakest and most immature Christians to make themselves look smart?
The plural of ego is egos. This is your 5th submission here. Congratulations, you've earned a bronze star!
Probably we´re making fun of weak and immature Christians(oh God, it took you evos to admit that there are idiots outside there), but the problem is that you don´t realise they´re so until people make fun of them. Honestly, you are offending them because you think that it is the pinnacle of reason, that we´re going to convert through that and you realise that not, that we laugh instead. Honestly, if you´re furious, be it against those "immature Christians", who can dangerously confuse many, not against us.
I freely admit, I'm werid. My weridity is unmatched, but luckily there is a cure. Every day I log on to fsdt, and laugh my arse off at the stupid fundies, and then I feel much better.
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You’re a Hypocrite.
19,533 posts! Your the one who needs to get a life.
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Little upset are we? By the way I am not a guy...and I am disabled..I really can't do a whole lot esle...I would rather hang out on a Christian message board then sit and watch TV all day long...talk about boring. At least on there I am learning about our Lord. I noticed alot of you assumed quiet a bit about me...maybe you should find out first what I believe, before accussing me of these things you have listed.
At any rate, most of you proved my point.
Oh yea, and I do spell poorly, I have dyslexia...when I graduated from high school I was functionally illiterate..back then they didn't know much about learning disablities like they do now. So after I graduated from high school I had to teach myself how to read and still struggle with my spelling, though its much better then it used to be.
At any rate yea, you guys do tick me off...you do not show a balanced view of our views of things...like you never show post with positive discussion we have on here. You never post showing how we support and encourage others, or about our love for Jesus...you seem to have no real understanding of what we are about at all.
That is too bad too. And yes I realize the same can be said for our views on you....but in reading your comments to our posts, all we see is mocking and put downs and not showing alot of intelligence here in most of the comments. So what do you expect our views of you to be like from this site? It certainly doesn't show the 'best' of you all by any means.
You never post prayer request for instance from off any of these boards. You don't post about the little boy that died from cancer that we had a long prayer thread about on our board. We posted to his grandma who is a member on our board praying for her grandson, supporting her and her daughter as he went through very painful treatments. The struggles they went through for a year and a half on there. And our outpouring of love and support when he passed away from it.
Of course you wouldn't put things like that on here showing how much we do care and support each other because we would look too human, too real, too sensible, too caring.
You come off as very cold and uncaring people...but given the same situation I am sure you would be as caring and supportive and as loving as we are...right? So why this show of 'we are so great and smart' and those 'fundies' are so crazy and stupid and hateful? All it does is make you look crazy, stupid and hateful...is that the image you really want to convene on here? You are succeding greatly at it so far. I would assume anyone with a thinking mind would realize how terribly slanted this website is and have enough sense to learn for themselves what we are really about...I would at least hope so anyway..
We don't post about all the good things that Christians put on the 'net because this site is dedicated to the moronic and foolish things that fundie Christians say, not the wise, caring, and supportive things they say. (And yes, when you look at the sum total of Christian posters on the 'net, the majority (I would be willing to say the vast majority) say generally positive and supportive things.)
Very few people here focus in on spelling and grammer unless it becomes so bent and misused that it begins to render the message incoherent. We all here have spelling errors in some of our posts as well.
As for your dyslexia, it isn't logical to assume that everyone you see on line that has language difficulties is suffering from some form of disability, and we don't tend to be the kind of people that automaticaly give people the benefit of the doubt; we tend to be skeptical, critical, and detail-oriented.
As for being on FSTDT, well, if you post on the 'net, that's a risk you take. Remember, if you jump in the ocean and start splashing around, you will attract the sharks. And blaming the sharks is just silly. If you don't want to deal with them, you have to stay out of the water.
On a sidenote... my condolances on going to a high school so corrupt and poorly run that they would actually graduate someone who can not read. if your story is true you are to be commended for teaching yourself, and I would sue the school that graduated you. That's a clear-cut case of incompetance of staff and administration.
At any rate yea, you guys do tick me off...you do not show a balanced view of our views of things...like you never show post with positive discussion we have on here. You never post showing how we support and encourage others, or about our love for Jesus...
The site's called, 'Fundies Say The Darndest Things!' not, 'Fundies Have Positive Discussions About Various Subjects!' not, 'Fundies Make Prayer Requests!,' and certainly not, 'Fundies Console Grieving Relatives!'
Really, you might as well suggest that we take down the site and post a link to your message board in its place.
If you agree with the crap that gets posted on this website, you deserve our derision. If you don't, good for you! You're not a 'fundy' as we use the term. But why you would go out of your way defending the crazy, hateful, bigoted, sexist, racist, ignorant, mindless, hilarious crap that people say that makes it onto the main page if you don't share those same views is beyond me, unless you really think that caring about dying children makes up for your more reprehensible views. (It doesn't).
We look for stupid, ignorant, bigoted quotes to make fun of, because we despise stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry. So when fundies make horrible or ridiculous statements, we heap ridicule on them, and I think that's fitting. It's also a lot of fun, if you can keep your sanity.
moonglow, I followed that thread about the little boy who died. I commend all of you who helped that mom & grandma - but I couldn't help but think during all those months, why hadn't your god said "yes"?
We also care about our own here. You probably missed all we did as a community during the final months for the founder of FSTDT. WinAce will always be remembered, and missed. Don't think for a second we don't grieve or feel bad when someone suffers.
Little upset are we? I wouldn't bet on it. At least, not any more than Jesus supposedly was when he gave a famous little line about a speck and a beam.
By the way I am not a guy...and I am disabled..I really can't do a whole lot esle...I would rather hang out on a Christian message board then sit and watch TV all day long...talk about boring. Well, I'm inclined to agree that the internet is slightly better than television.
At least on there I am learning about our Lord. Honestly, this made me chuckle. Because I have to either laugh or cry at the idea that someone thinks this is a worthwhile use of their time, and there's too much insanity just like this for me to cry about all of it.
I noticed alot of you assumed quiet a bit about me...maybe you should find out first what I believe, before accussing me of these things you have listed. I know you believe (or used to believe) that the US was founded on christian principles. That's worthy of ridicule, in and of itself. Also, that "a kid can get into trouble for saying God or Jesus outloud".
Oh yea, and I do spell poorly, I have dyslexia...when I graduated from high school I was functionally illiterate..back then they didn't know much about learning disablities like they do now. It really pisses me off that the functionally illiterate can graduate high school. Why bother to have schools if we aren't even going to teach kids to read? :-(
So after I graduated from high school I had to teach myself how to read and still struggle with my spelling, though its much better then it used to be. Good for you. And I mean that sincerely.
At any rate yea, you guys do tick me off...you do not show a balanced view of our views of things... Wait, Fundies say the darndest things doesn't show a balanced view? No shit, sherlock! The site exists to mock the stupid shit you say. Why would we post things not in keeping with that goal. Do you also complain that World News Daily doesn't show any factual stories?
like you never show post with positive discussion we have on here. This is true. Were this not Fundies say the Darndest things, you might have a point.
You never post showing how we support and encourage others, From what time I've spent at christian bulletin boards, it seems that most of it is a virtual circle jerk about how christians are better than everyone else. Oh, sure, there's some support and encouragement (I guess), but it's all about how jesus will make everything better. Excuse me if I think that crap is almost as ridiculous as the things that actually do get posted here.
or about our love for Jesus All right. You love someone you've never met. In fact, no one has actually seen him in 2000 years, and even then, we only have the words of a self-contradicting book compiled centuries later to describe him. The whole thing smacks of a child with an invisible friend.
...you seem to have no real understanding of what we are about at all. Eagerly anticipating the end of the world, as to validate your beliefs, nullify your insecurities, and overcome your feelings that maybe, just maybe, the people who don't believe as you do actually know something you don't. Okay, maybe you don't phrase it that way, but I've had enough dealings with fundies to have a pretty good understanding of what you're about. You're afraid, and you have a need to feel special. That's what it amounts to.
That is too bad too. And yes I realize the same can be said for our views on you....but in reading your comments to our posts, all we see is mocking and put downs and not showing alot of intelligence here in most of the comments. Yeah, whatever. I don't place too much stock in what someone who posts on Bibleforums thinks is or is not showing intelligence.
So what do you expect our views of you to be like from this site? That's nice, don't care. Seriously, if I was trying to impress you, do you think I'd be making fun of you? No. I'm making fun of you because you said something deserving of mockery.
It certainly doesn't show the 'best' of you all by any means. I disagree; critical thinking skills, and the willingness to ridicule ideas which are deserving of such is, in my opinion, a good way to show that which is best in humanity; the ability to learn from, and move beyond, our mistakes.
You never post prayer request for instance from off any of these boards. Yes, that's because this is "Fundies Say the Darndest Things", not "Fundies say stupid shit based on their beliefs". That site wouldn't be quite as funny.
You don't post about the little boy that died from cancer that we had a long prayer thread about on our board. Good thing you didn't actually do anything helpful . There's this saying that you might want to take to heart: two hands that help do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.
We posted to his grandma who is a member on our board praying for her grandson, supporting her and her daughter as he went through very painful treatments. The struggles they went through for a year and a half on there. And our outpouring of love and support when he passed away from it. Yes. You gave her some emotional support. Good for you. It's too bad you didn't take up a collection to help them with the bills or something.
Of course you wouldn't put things like that on here showing how much we do care and support each other because we would look too human, too real, too sensible, too caring. I wouldn't worry about you looking too sensible. Sure, you guys can be human and caring, but you seem awfully cliqueish about it.
You come off as very cold and uncaring people... That's nice. Don't care.
but given the same situation I am sure you would be as caring and supportive and as loving as we are...right? Yes, I imagine I'd do at least that much.
So why this show of 'we are so great and smart' and those 'fundies' are so crazy and stupid and hateful? Ever looked at the things people get quoted here for saying? We're pointing out that many of you are fucking nuts.
All it does is make you look crazy, stupid and hateful...is that the image you really want to convene on here? Still don't care. You're just pissed because you're getting made fun of for saying something dumb. Of course you're going to be offended.
You are succeding greatly at it so far. I don't know if this will break through the wall of delusion, but here's a little secret: I have never seen a non-fundie get pissed off about this site. Every non-fundie I've shown it too has thought it was hilarious, and that the fundies were both crazy and dangerous.
I would assume anyone with a thinking mind would realize how terribly slanted this website is and have enough sense to learn for themselves what we are really about...I would at least hope so anyway..
Yes, and it's people who have done that who post here. You don't seem to get it, but we do understand. You believe a bunch of crazy bullshit, and many of your compatriots use the crazy bullshit they believe to justify atrocities. That scares us, and so we share these insane ramblings of yours so that other sane people can realize how dangerous many of you are.
@Moonglow
You never post prayer request for instance from off any of these boards. You don't post about the little boy that died from cancer that we had a long prayer thread about on our board. We posted to his grandma who is a member on our board praying for her grandson, supporting her and her daughter as he went through very painful treatments. The struggles they went through for a year and a half on there. And our outpouring of love and support when he passed away from it. Look the thing with that is, the moderators do not accept stories of personal angst, torment or heartfelt pleas to a personal God, who quite simply does not exist.
Mocking something like that, would not only be cruel and heartless, but actually starting to run in the direction of, but still far away from the territory that the First Amendment was actually created for.
As much as it is documented that prayer fails to work, even as a placebo, we're not here to mock and laugh and gloat at 'misguided fools' who were raised to think it does (as most atheists here were, but learnt to think for themselves) and deconstruct your 'support' group - well meaning as it is. (Reminds me of something my mother used to say, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions. " Thinking good thoughts is not a justification or a defense for inaction.)
In fact your criticism would only be valid if we grabbed those posts and ripped into them too, when you're weak and vulnerable. Instead this site is full of quotes from the people that H.L. Mencken describe thusly:
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters."
Is it asking too much to treat the disabled person with a little more respect? Take into consideration that this person can't get a job, probably has a difficult time leaving the house, and may or may not have a whole lot to look forward to. How would you like it if someone made fun of your grandmother or grandfather, who happened to be in the same condition? This person clings onto Christianity as a result, perhaps as a misguided hope to achieve greatness. Normally, I am not the kind of person to say these things, especially not here, but sometimes, there has to be a line drawn.
Another thing that I am not too crazy about on this site is this rigid insistence on good spelling, and the ridicule of those who lack said ability. Spelling is really part of a system to help universally convey thoughts and ideas. It is an ends to a mean. What is important is that the thoughts through type are being transmitted correctly. This is not to say that I consider spelling to be unimportant. BUT to pick on someone's spelling in an idealogical debate is actually a display of pettiness.
Who made fun of her unspecified disability? No one.
Being patronising to that degree is a little demeaning don't you think Mad Dog? You're not treating her as a person, but as a disability, and proposing interaction in a manner that has no relevance to her disability.
Go ahead, try to twist it around and accuse the person who actually suggested treating someone else with respect. Just goes to show that someone's religious/political agenda takes priority over compassion. You don't specifically have to make fun of someone's disability to disrespect them. All I asked is that she be treated in the same manner you would want to be treated under the same circumstances. Besides, I wasn't accusing you specifically. If you weren't disrespecting Moonglow, then my previous criticisms do not apply to you.
I, too, have a disability, with mobility problems that can keep me house-bound for weeks at a time (good thing I have a job that I'm able to do from home). But, as my disability is physical and not mental in nature, I don't expect to get a free pass just because of it and neither should maddog or moonglow or anyone else.
Personaly, I try to make some allowances for those with disabilities, but that isn't the same thing as a "free pass". Giving the disadvantaged a "free pass" would be nothing more than a show of pity, and wouldn't do them or anyone else any good. Were I disabled, I wouldn't want pity, so I do treat others with some respect and dignity. As humans, not disabilities.
If I have not made myself clear before, I am not criticizing the points of views presented, in fact I find a lot of them quite agreeable. I am just saying that the presentations could have been more polite, given the circumstances. That's all. I would not ask anyone to hide their point of view from anyone else.
Hmm eather the admin removed the other post or my post didn't make it..
but anyway i agree that you should treat others with repect, but you shouldn't be considered cold and heartless for not knowing something about someone.
i have the impression moonglow brought up her/his problems (you know theres no girlz on teh interwebs!!)
solely to garner sympathy from people here and to make them feel like shit for making fun of what s/he said.
i find this a lowly tactic considering the sites purpose and what she said to begin with
i am amazed by those that truely over come their problems in life. i have lots of problems, just like everyone else, but you don't see me trying to use this as a defense when people make fun of something dumb i say on the internet
"I'm crippled!, i didn't tell you this though! but don't you feel like a real man making fun of a cripple now?!"
like that
Firstly, I find it informative.
Second, it's no different than a person buying cable to watch sports or cooking shows.
Third, it's hilarious.
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Whatever that is.
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