In the current science community environment, which embraces the evolutionary position, young earth creationism could be seen as Bible scientific foreknowledge. Young earth creationist scientists have a number of compelling arguments for young earth creationism, as well as having a number of compelling arguments against the evolutionary view. One needs to go no further than the Dissent From Darwin list of over 600 Ph.D scientists stating skepticism over, "random mutations and selection" being responsible for the biological changes required for evolution.
[Bonus points: Read the entire article, because it is filled with so very much of the failure.]
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Young Earth creationism has "compelling arguments"? LOL!1!eleventy!1!!
Oh, and you really have 600 creationist PhD's, do you? 600 non-biology PhD's, no doubt.
One needs to go no further than the Dissent From Darwin list of over 600 Ph.D scientists stating skepticism over, "random mutations and selection" being responsible for the biological changes required for evolution.
Gosh! Six hundred? Wow, I bet none of those guys are devout Christians.
Keep in mind that 'skepticism' is required by science. Creationists, like other pollsters, like to use misleading statements to make it seem like they have more support than they do.
And of course the obvious point that even if evolution were disproved, it wouldn't automatically prove creationism by a long shot.
In the current science community environment, which embraces the evolutionary position, young earth creationism could be seen as Bible scientific foreknowledge.
No, I don't think so. Now go play with the other kids.
over 600 Ph.D scientists stating skepticism over
Appeal to authority fallacy, and a lousy one at that. 600 scientists, out of the millions worldwide, is hardly an impressive number.
Uh, just because they say they are skeptical of 'random mutations and selection' doesn't mean their creationists. There are other evolutionary theories out there.
Gould is a champion of "punctuated equilibrium". It's still evolution, but not random. I'm sure there are other theories out there.
Edit:
TB Tabby ~ thanks for the link ;)
Question:
If, from the number of the 600 scientists, you remove the "scientists" who got their degrees by diploma mills, how many scientists remain?
If from this remaining number you also deduct the number of non biologists, how many scientists remain?
Question:
Where are these compelling arguments against the evolutionary view? And please only mention arguments that aren´t dependant on outdated theories or were refuted already by scientists.
Where are these compelling arguments for the creationist view? And please here as well only mention arguments that aren´t dependant on outdated theories or were refuted already by scientists.
Also don´t use any arguments that go like "it is written within the bible and therefore must be true"
so um . . . are any of these people molecular biologists, genetic engineers, or any of that like?
or are these people who've gotten their doctorates from piles of fail like Patriot Bible University?
Kent Hovind, Kent Hovind, Kent Hovind, Kent Hovind, Kent Hovind... (x600)
No, you don't get it. The difference between science and the Bible is the explanation, not the observation.
So, for example the observation is "eating pork makes you sick".
Bible: it's unclean, tainted by demons!
Science: Pork is a carrier of a disease know as consumption. If you cook it, the disease dies.
The YouTube video that TB Tabby provides shows 101 names appended to the statement of non-belief in common descent, not 600. Most are involved in such fields as mathematics and computer science. One is a Park Ranger. There are 39 biologists on the list. Four couldn't be located. Sixteen of the remaining 35 responded to an inquiry. Fourteen of the 16 -- including Michael Behe -- accept common descent.
If, for the sake of argument, it is granted that all 101 are qualified biologists, that would by 101 out of some 3.6-million biological scientists in the US, or 0.0027%.
“In the current science community environment, which embraces the evolutionary position, young earth creationism could be seen as Bible scientific foreknowledge.”
The entire point of the Bible is to account for the works of a supernatural being.
Science is completely naturalistic, with no degree of supernatural in it.
You cannot SCIENTIFICALLY present the BIBLE. It’s a contradiction in terms
“Young earth creationist scientists”
AN oxymoron.
“have a number of compelling arguments for young earth creationism,”
I’m sure they think they’re compelling….
“as well as having a number of compelling arguments against the evolutionary view.”
Most of what I’ve seen creationists demonstrate is that they don’t know what evolution actually is. Some of thse ‘compelling arguments’ assume that the Big Bang is part of evolution, for example. Easily dismissed as ignorant.
“One needs to go no further than the Dissent From Darwin list of over 600 Ph.D scientists stating skepticism over, "random mutations and selection" being responsible for the biological changes required for evolution.”
They dissent. There’s a bigger list of scientists who are named ‘Steve’ who accept evolution. You cannot win by a popularity argument.
And you cannot get evolutionary theory junked without providing a better scientific theory that explains all the data. ‘Goddidit’ is not a scientific theory.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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