Arabs were slaves to the Turks for nearly 1,000 years.
We are not like the Turks ~ they will need to learn to stand up on their hind legs. Our 13th Amendment prohibits our enslaving them again even for their own good.
I know that realization delivers a harsh blow to their aspirations but we already have too many dependents to worry about them.
BTW, whatever is going on in the Middle East is NOT OUR FAULT.
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As someone with ancestors from the Balkans, I can say a lot of people were under Ottoman rule...for about half the time you mention, actually. It's disturbing that you think they deserved it and only slightly reassuring that you see the Thirteenth Amendment as an impediment to placing them under yours.
How do you enslave someone for their own good?
Know what, never mind, don't answer that.
Actualy the arabs were only enslaved by the turks for about 500 years...
Before that they were slaves of the mongols, who conquered them in 1252 AD.
Before that they enjoyed freedom, and the highest standard of living on Earth.
Arabs have no hind legs, and your 13th amendment doesnt mean squat.
Actually, Laurier, we all have hind legs. What we don't have is front legs, which have evolved into arms.
@ Vman:
Strange how these people pick names which could SOUND Arabic...
So, if the "we" does refer to Americans (why are reactionaries ALWAYS American?) then I have just one thing to say to him. We ARE responsible. If we did not constantly provide support to Ben Ali, Mubarak, even Gaddafi, and whoever is the leader of Syria, not to mention all of their predecessors, then the Middle East would not be full of dictatorships and thus there would be far less misery, meaning that Islamist terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda or the government of Iran would be considered fringe extremists instead of practically mainstream in the Middle East.
What I think should be done is for this country to immediately cease and desist all meddling in the rest of the world. History has shown that when countries are left to themselves, in this world which has pro-democracy beliefs well-established, people in oppressed countries rise up against their oppressors, and the only reason the oppressors remain in power is because the United States keep them in power. If the US became totally non-interventionist, then pro-democracy advocates would actually have a fighting chance. It would be better to let the entire world fall to the Nazis than to get involved in another Vietnam or Iraq. Americans simply cannot be trusted not to make things worse for everybody.
"BTW, whatever is going on in the Middle East is NOT OUR FAULT."
suspiciously specific denial, much?
Brendan> the Syrian dictator is Bashar al-Assad, and IIRC he actually didn't ever have American backing. Unsurprising, since the Syrian regime is semi-socialist (in name, at least) and they're anti-Israel to the core.
As for:
"It would be better to let the entire world fall to the Nazis than to get involved in another Vietnam or Iraq. Americans simply cannot be trusted not to make things worse for everybody."
Err, aren't you going a bit too far here? Sure, American interventions usually break more stuff than they fix, and their real motivations tend to be pretty much purely selfish... BUT when it comes to actual Nazis or something THAT extreme, I say: bring on the intervention!
Some dark episodes aside (Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Dresden etc.), I'm rather glad that you Yanks showed up in WWII, even if not immediately :P (1941, rather than 1939)
We (Yugoslavia in those days) liberated ourselves pretty much on our own, but some others really needed all the help they could get...
I don't know what is more bizarre about this entry; that they honestly think enslaving an entire subcontinent will somehow improve the region, that the people of the region would be displeased that such a thing is horribly impractical, or that the US has some sort of "dependents" preventing aforementioned enslavement. Good to see that colonialism isn't COMPLETELY dead.
@Brendan Rizzo
It actually goes back a bit further than that, to the European colonialism of the area, and the Ottoman control before that. So yes, US meddling made things a lot worse for Arabs (especially in Iraq and Iran), but it wouldn't be all sunshine and roses otherwise.
Your government has literally spend trillions of dollars in cash, arms and espionage in the middle east. You might think that your government is not to be blamed at all but the evidence proves that your claim is false to the point of ridiculousness. Seriously, you don't even know how badly Operation Ajax fucked up Iran.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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