you likely have a very sensitive child who feels extra remorse and guilt. If so, don't try to talk them out of it, it doesn't work, they only think you don't understand the level of their depravity. they are sensitive to the awareness of their own sin and are completely aware you don't know all the bad stuff inside of them. they don't believe they deserve to be saved.
so tell them that they are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! they DON'T deserve it and that the sin inside is evidence of that. so instruct him to get on his knees every time he has doubts and THANK God for giving him what he did not deserve.
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In fact, go one better by admitting your own filth, declaring that you're too vile to live, and killing yourself right in front of the kid! That'll show 'em what your "loving god" is really about!
Sick. Just sick.
That is all...
GREAT idea. You do that. Let's see, that will be approximately 364 hours, or equivalent to 7 years of weekly therapy for your child. And that was without the god shit. Just plain ol' guilt and criticism.
This is just....sick.
A child naturally takes joy in life - unless they have parents like these idiots. Then the joy is beaten out of them, to be replaced by guilt.
I second Nowonmai: these peoples' kids should be removed from them, lest they receive vast mental/emotional scarring.
...and remember: religion is definitely NOT child abuse....
Seriously. What the hell? You said that this child feels "extra remorse and guilt", and that this is a good reason to guilt trip them and tell them are worthless? I feel really sorry for that kid if that person took your advice. Sensitive kids already feel things more acutely. You should definitely not feel prompted to make them feel worthless with twice as much intensity due to that.
To put it bluntly: people who feel regrets the easiest need to feel them the least. You should be double-timing on kids who have no sensitivity or sense of personal wrong-doing rather than helping to land a few blows against a child who is already fighting with himself.
Yeah, I went through this as a kid. In fact it seemed they took great joy in telling me how evil I was.
Fucked me up for the rest of my life.
Just now I am learning what a gift being sensitive can be. If I had decent parents I could of been a great doctor or therapist.
Child abuse and mental torture. This is what religion inevitably does. I know this from personal experience, since I was raised like this.
Fuck you Valerie. Fuck you with a rusty, spiky-studded chainsaw. Also, DIAF.
Now if everyone will excuse me, I have to burn some bad memories out of my skull with booze.
It doesn't take religion for a parent to do this to a child. My mother's only religion is self-worship, yet she constantly told me how stupid and worthless I am and how my birth totally ruined her life. I guess that's why she felt entitled to ruin mine. Years of therapy later and I still feel completely worthless and unlovable.
So yeah, Valerie: you, my mother, the parents of a few of our other posters, and all those like them must die in a blazing fire immediately. The world will be a much cleaner, kinder place without your monstrous selves polluting it.
“you likely have a very sensitive child who feels extra remorse and guilt.”
No, not really. We didn’t really teach lasting remorse.
Fuck up, get caught, get punished, life goes on.
“If so, don't try to talk them out of it, it doesn't work, they only think you don't understand the level of their depravity.”
Depravity?
My kids know i had a military career in submarines. The benchmark for depravity is not a burden they feel…
“they are sensitive to the awareness of their own sin and are completely aware you don't know all the bad stuff inside of them.”
Rather the opposite. Anything in their head, they assume I feel it,too. “You know how when your buddy shows you amputee dwarf porn and you feel a need to find weirder stuff?”
“Yeah…”
“they don't believe they deserve to be saved.”
Oh, I see. Well, fuck you right in your piety-hole with a chainsaw.
Confused?
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