The issue is way more fundamental than Constitutional jibber jabber. Everyone generally agrees that there are no universal rights....with very few exceptions...to do anything you want to....even the homosexuals understand this obvious point.
So if you have been following the debate on the internet....homosexuals assert two incompatible claims:rights are universal...therefore homosexuals have a moral and legal right to get married...then they assert
that polygammy and other types of unions must be legally prohibited...
So what is going on here? This: homosexuals have set themelves up as the exclusive judges-oracles of morality in America....and heterosexuals must obey them...or homo power+ MEGACORPORATE POWER WILL GET YOU FIRED FROM YOUR JOB OR DESTROY YOUR BUISINESS...of course heterosexuals are under no obligation to accept this gay norming of American Society.
The homosexual FILTH is threatening CONSERVATIVE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN RUSSIA WITH THERMONUCLEAR ANNIHILATION if the Russian People don't accept the gay norming of Russian Society
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To support gay marriage but oppose polygamy is not a judgement on morality because the two things are not comparable. One us born gay, but polygamy is a lifestyle which usually can't even be called a choice because it is the result of religious brainwashing, and it exploits and victimizes women and children.
homosexuals assert two incompatible claims:rights are universal...therefore homosexuals have a moral and legal right to get married...then they assert
that polygammy and other types of unions must be legally prohibited...
It's the anti-gay crowd who are always bringing up "But people are going to want to marry children, animals, etc..." I don't have a problem with plural marriages as long as everyone involved in one is OK with the arrangement, but obviously children and animals can't give informed legal consent. And that's what we've been saying all along.
If you are pro-marriage for same sex couples you are automatically anti-polygamous marriage? Since when? Pretty sure the fundies are the ones who would be crying about how immoral it is to have more than one spouse. Unless they're mormon fundies, I guess.
Hey, if you want to remain a disgusting bigot and oppose basic human rights and respect for GLBT people you can. You can't break the laws, but nobody can force you to not be a prejudice dick. Just don't expect the world to coddle your poor little homophobic ass, you have to deal with the backlash.
Also didn't know that Russian gays had nukes. I learned something today.
Dime-a-dozen anti-gay fundie: "If gay marriage is allowed, next people are going to want to marry children, animals, their car etc."
Pro-gay person: "Children, animals and lifeless objects can't agree to marrying anyone because they can't give informed legal consent. That's what we've been saying all along."
DADAGF(annoyed): "Quit it with that irrelevant 'consent' nonsense! What matters is that GOD SAYS that marriage is *one man, one woman!* Anything else is Against God and therefore evil!!"
Human rights should include all humans, asshole. As I have the right to marry a man, my friend David ought to have the same right.
NO-ONE has the right to marry several men, or their dog, or their sandwish, so those lacks of "rights" are also universal, stupid.
There is no gay norming in the Russian Society, quite the opposite.
I don't have time for this jibber-jabber!
I know he's a thumper but Mr. T would slap the shit outta you for saying that. So would many rational people.
Homo power? Is that supposed to be like girl power, only more fabulous?
1- 10th Amendment
2- There's a law that says Polygamy isn't allowed.
3- There's no laws saying that Homosexuality isn't allowed.
4- Same-sex marriage is allowed.
5- ?????
6- So yours is no longer the Dominant Paradigm, Cuntservative Orthodix Christains? Deal with it.
(Malingspann)
"DADAGF(annoyed): "Quit it with that irrelevant 'consent' nonsense! What matters is that GOD SAYS that marriage is *one man, one woman!* Anything else is Against God and therefore evil!!'" "
*sighs and nods* Yeah, that's the fundies' position in a nutshell, all right.
So if you have been following the debate on the internet....homosexuals assert two incompatible claims:rights are universal...therefore homosexuals have a moral and legal right to get married...then they assert
that polygammy and other types of unions must be legally prohibited...
Actually the LGBT community doesn't assert that. The asshats like wattylersrevolt assert that they assert that. The rest of the post is word salad that I can't comprehend without my first cup of coffee.
Nono, homosexuals have a moral and legal right to fair and completely equal treatment. Part of that is the right to do something straight people can - get legally married.
Another option for getting rid of the inequality here would be to abolish marriage, but I don't think that's going to be a winner with you, is it?
Everyone generally agrees that there are no universal rights
In the US, you're allowed to do anything the state doesn't pass a valid law against (9th and 10th amendments). And there are certain things the state is not allowed to pass a law against, including treating one person or group of people differently than another (14th amendment).
homo power+ MEGACORPORATE POWER WILL GET YOU FIRED FROM YOUR JOB OR DESTROY YOUR BUISINESS
So basically, that's "homo power" plus the will of the majority, since corporations wouldn't disown bigotry and support gay rights if they didn't think it was profitable.
Homosexuals do not believe that all rights are universal or can't be restricted. They just want to get civilly married and they will be able to within the next five years and you'll probably cry in a corner or rage impotently on the computer.
Russia has always been backwards and the anti-gay law has increased violence against homosexuals and stifled their free speech. But then homos are abominations so they deserve all that mistreatment, right?
Most of us gay people don't care about polygamy at all. If such people wish to get it legalized, let them work for it like w have. But here's the problem; the basis of legal marriage rests on primary kinship, a concept that doesn't work with more than two people. They will need to come up with legally-valid ways to deal with the problems of multiple ownership, guardianship, custody, etc. They will also have to make some very strict guidelines about religious groups indoctrinating kids to believe their only option is to enter into a polygamous relationship.
As for those LGBT nukes....SHHHHHHH! Nobody's supposed to know about our gleaming missiles of various shapes and sizes, ready to explode on command...
The homosexual FILTH is threatening CONSERVATIVE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN RUSSIA WITH THERMONUCLEAR ANNIHILATION if the Russian People don't accept the gay norming of Russian Society
"Teh Gays" have nukes?
Shit, give 'em Gay Norman, then.
Easy enough, if that's all they want.
Wait...they're only threatening extreme right Christians? Way to hell and gone over in Russia? I guess Sarah Palin should wrap up her back porch in duct tape and plastic in the mean time.
Confused?
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