When you're speaking with an atheist, the Bible says you are dealing with a "fool" (see Psalm 14:1). This isn't someone who is a clown or a court jester. They are people of skill. You're not dealing with someone who is of a low intellect. That person can't help having a low IQ.
You are dealing with someone who has willfully blown out the inner light that God has given to every man. Such a person has already disqualified themselves from reasonable conversation. They can't be reasoned with because their worldview denies that which is axiomatic or commonsense. This is because atheism gives him the temporary license to look at porn, to fornicate, etc., without a sense of moral responsibility to a Creator. For a sin-loving sinner, it's like a dream come true, and so he will say anything to defend those pleasures, including denying that which is obvious.
What you must do is move away from his "carnal" mind that's at enmity with the moral Law (see Romans 8:7), and the place to go is where Jesus went--to his conscience.
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"the inner light that God has given to every man"
The one that made you believe that bananas are "the atheist's nightmare," RC?
On average, the higher IQ, the higher chance of the person being an atheist.
Many atheists, including me, felt a slight bereavement when religion didn't make any sense any longer. It wasn't willful, it came in steps and it was religion itself that did it.
Don't speak of reasonable conversation, Bananaman; you've disqualified yourself from all them years ago.
Our worldview is based on reality, not on myths and fairy-tales, so yes, it is kinda hard to reason with you.
Religion never actually stopped anyone from watching porn, fornication, child-molestations, lying, etc.
I feel a sense of moral responsibility to my fellow human beings.
There are women atheists too, ya know.
Have you sold all your possessions and given the money to the poor yet, Bananaman, as Jesus commanded you to in at least four different verses in the Bible? No? Then I don't give much for your conscience.
I've watched a lot of Ray Comfort and this is by far his favorite verse BECAUSE Rays (and con-buddy Kirk) method is to piss off unbelievers. He's looking to get people angry or at least dismissive of him so he can call them emotional or close minded. "God told me you're stupid!"
He's the Donald Trump of internet evangelists.
There's a twofer quality to that verse too, it's also a way of making his followers feel smart, possibly for the first time in their lives.
I find that "common sense" is not sufficiently common nowadays. Common sense tells me that millions of people have managed to lead decent lives without having a little personal Jesus living on their shoulder to whisper in their ears and tell them not to fornicate. You are confusing atheism with lawlessness. One consists of people that don't talk to invisible spirits. The other consists of people, mostly Christian, who fill our prisons today.
You're not dealing with someone who is of a low intellect. That person can't help having a low IQ.
Ray, you shouldn't talk about yourself like that.
This is a prime example of the kind of thing that is said by someone who knows atheists exist, and doesn't like that, but knows nothing else about atheism or atheists whatsoever. In any normal person, this can be solved by a little education, but, in Ray's case, any and all attempts to do this are either not understood, even if such education is given in the simplest possible terms, or simply ignored. So he is either monumentally stupid or deliberately ignorant (or both, of course).
You're not dealing with someone who is of a low intellect.
That person can't help having a low IQ.
Wait...what?
What you must do is move away from his "carnal" mind
Better yet, just stay away, entirely.
The second half of that verse says that they do no good. Tell that to people like Bill Gates who set up his foundation...or to the people who set up and donate to groups like the Foundation Beyond Belief .
As for real fools? Check out Comfort's knowledge of biology .
There is also this interesting study .
You dumb, stupid, weak, pathetic, white, white... uh... guilt... white guilt, milquetoast... piece of human garbage.
That is all.
Then why don't you debate the 'fool' that is Bill Nye, Ray Cumfart?
...or via Ken Ham's experience, the only one left looking like the fool will be you ?
How everyone will perceive you & your 'performance' on TV. Are you going to say to all the viewers that they are 'fools' too? Because that'll endear them to you & your J-boy, yessiree! [/hyper-sarcasm]
...or maybe that's the problem: and you're merely projecting your own foolishness upon anyone who won't bleat & follow you along with the rest of the sheeple...?
But then, all those who don't are the Wolves who prey upon such, and your foolishness. Wolves aren't fools , or they would be extinct by now.
"When you're speaking with an atheist, the Bible says you are dealing with a "fool""
Is this the same bible that says PI=3? This is what's calling me a fool?
And the OP is trying to scare me with a banana? This is the moron calling me a fool?
@Titania (the original)
"Yeah, because Christians have never looked at porn or fornicated. Ever."
Jimmy Swaggart. Ted Faggard. Josh Buggar. The Triumvirate of fundie Christain FAIL.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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