Using the logic that a person is accepted by God because they are in a "loving homosexual relationship" is rediculous. The Bible does not speak against a "loviing homosexual relationship" because that kind of relationship does not exist. Love is of God and those who love are of God. A homosexual may be a nice person, a great guy and be religious, but if he continues to defy God's mandate of living a life of purity and does not attempt to line his life up with the demands of God's word, then one is led to the conclusion that the homosexual man is lost and does not know God. (This can be said of a bank robber, a child molester, a drunk and any other person who is not presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.)
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"because that kind of relationship does not exist."
Word salad. If 'love' means cruelty and ignorance, complete indifference to unnecessary suffering, and 'hate' means, say, what a mother (generally) feels towards her children, I prefer 'hate'. But really, fundies know this deep down. That's why they are adamant it must be a personal choice or else their whole argument falls to pieces and their clear hatred is shown for what it is.
That kind of relationship totally exists.
I mean, how else do you explain homosexuals?
Are you a ahomosexual? You don't believe that homosexuals exist?
Why do you have to hate them like that, man, what did they ever do to you?
Homophobes are known for desperate arguments, but this one takes the cake. I'm sure there's a church out there that says that you are not a Truly Saved True Christian, so I guess you're incapable of love, too.
On weekdays, my body is a temple- on the weekends, it's a tent for the circus freakshow.
I wear my clothes skin tight and my opinion about tight clothes goes soemthing like this- "if you can still breathe, it's not too tight".
the bible doesn't speak of computers and internet, washing machines, fridges, guns, corporations .... does it mean all these things don't exist?
Stop using the Bible for guidelines. I will give you a much simpler litmus test.
If it promotes love and life, without causing abject misery for everyone else, then it's God's will. Everything else is varying degrees of evil.
Apply mostly to self. Avoid making presumptuous assumptions of what may benefit other persons. Or at least ask first.
Fundy Word Redefinition Project.
Also, "presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice" is just a terrifying image. How can these people not see something wrong with this?
There is a big difference. A homosexual person harms nobody, whereas those guys DO. And let me tell you, a bank robber, a child molester and anybody who harms another person is not a "nice guy". Following your logic, there shouldn't be marriage or straight sex because, after all, if all love comes from God...............
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Not only are you a retarded jackass bigot, but your spelling sucks.
My relationship is so confusing, even I can't work out what we are. I'd hate to see a fundie interpretation.
I see. So, my relationship isn't valid because your interpretation of your holy book allows for denial of reality and bigotry.
I think my partner and I will stick with reality, thanks.
Isn't it kind of odd that God gives you a body as a gift, but then expects you to sacrifice it to him at any moment?
It's like if I gave you a birthday present with a list of directions on how to use it, and if you break even one of those directions I take it away forever. Does that sound like a nice a person?
But, if God is male, and the only type of love is "love of God," then doesn't that mean that, for men, homosexual love is the only kind of love there is?
Let's see...There's Bog the FATHER, Jeebus the SON, a GENDER NEUTRAL holy spirit. No ladies present in the pantheon and they tend to poo-poo heterosexual interaction. Then all this talk about love your brother and the boys-only disciples club...
Sounds like heaven's on the downlow, know what I'm sayin'? You feel me? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge--say no more?
"any other person who is not presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God."
What the fuck is wrong with the deity these people worship? Wanting the entire human race to sacrifice their entire lives to it? Selfish, arrogant jackass.
This can be said of a bank robber, a child molester, a drunk and any other person who is not presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.
According to Romans 1, it also can be said of anyone who is unrighteous, engages in fornication, is wicked, covetous, malicious; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malignity; who is a gossiper, slanderer or a hater of God, is insolent, proud, boasts, invents evil things, is disobedient to parents, is without understanding, is a covenant breaker, without natural affection, implacable or unmerciful. In other words, according to Romans 2, everybody.
THERE IS NO FREAKIN' "E" IN RIDICULOUS!
Oh, and homosexuals can feel love, your God does not define love as humans experience it, and by your logic, adulterers cannot feel love for the woman that they are having an affair with, because that too is against God's will.
The Bible does not speak against a "loviing homosexual relationship" because that kind of relationship does not exist.
I want to make a long drawn out rebuttal, but it boils down to this. Fuck. You. Fuck you. Fuck your church. Fuck anyone who looked at that statement and nodded in agreement.
@ bigtex:
I was under the impression that jesus was a living sacrifice so that no one else ever needs to be.
@ GigaGuess:
That's alot of fuckin', sir.
Didn't Jesus say something along the lines of "Even the pagans love their friends and families"? In other words, a person most certainly does not need to be of God in order to love, and that's by Jesus' logic.
"This can be said of a bank robber, a child molester, a drunk and any other person who is not presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God."
Unless of course they repent on their deathbed and go to heaven with the likes of Jeffery Dahmer, right?
Sorry, but that's how it works. You don't get into heaven by what you do, but by who's god you blow.
"those who love are of God."
Bullshit. God is a monster prick, bloodthirsty and evil. There IS no love, just hateful intolerance.
nfp wrote:
"Let's see...There's Bog the FATHER, Jeebus the SON, a GENDER NEUTRAL holy spirit."
Actually, the Holy Spirit is male.
Pentecostals will get quite up-in-arms if you refer to the Holy Spirit as "it" instead of "He".
@tracer:
I've heard it both ways, actually--just personally more on the gender neutral side. Your point makes my case even stronger, though :D thanks!
The fundies are just making this crap up as they go anyway, so however you interpret teh scripchurs is just fine.
@Ken1971
That an offer? ;)
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