Ray Comfort #fundie

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"Why does God command us not to kill, yet why did He command so many killings in the Old Testament?”

God never commits murder. All of His judgments are flawlessly judicial--they are "righteous and true altogether." His declaration of the death sentence upon the whole of humanity--"The soul that sins shall die" was impeccably just, as are all of His commands.

To not trust that basic biblical truth is to believe that a morally perfect Creator is a mass murderer. Such a thought in itself is evil and reveals a lack of the fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom. On Judgment Day the character and wisdom of our Creator will be fully justified.

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old comment by Vifibi

Ray's kind of right here... In the original commandments, the phrasing in hebrew was more akin to "Thou shalt not murder" than to "Don't kill," as the hebrew word used was used when referring to people within your own country, and NEVER when referring to war casualties and stuff like that.

But the rest of it? Absolute horse bollocks. And not even good-looking horse bollocks, either, cancerous horse bollocks, that the horse just insists on shoving onto your face.

If god were the beginning of wisdom, then Socrates would not have been considered the wisest man of Athens by the Oracle. To admit ignorance is the beginning of wisdom, the rest is just posturing.

old comment by KittyKaboom

This reminds me of a conversation I had years ago with a fundy former friend. I asked her why biblegod would wipe out the children of his enemies along with the adults, when babies are supposedly born innocent (this grew from a conversation about abortion, of course).

Her answer: god knew those children would grow up to hate him or disobey him based on the actions of their parents or guardians, therefore killing them all at once during the destruction of Sodom and Gommorrah or via one of god's wars was just and good.

Then I asked her why christians oppose abortion, if god knows we are going to sin or disobey him, wouldn't sending the soul back to him save the eventual child from hell?

Her answer: I would need to accept Jesus, then god would make me understand why this was unacceptable.

I compared this belief to the film 'Minority Report', in which Tom Cruise arrests people for crimes they will eventually commit.

She said there was no comparison because everything god does is good and just, and he doesn't have to justify himself to people who don't believe in him anyway.

I reminded her that if he would provide answers to people's questions, they might be more willing to have faith in him, but since he never does, we have to guess. Plus, by not doing so he presents himself as a horrific monster who actually hates his creations rather than a creator who understands how fallible he made us in the first place.

I was about to further explain that he is more like an abusive spouse who beats the shit out of you whether you provoke him or not (while telling you he loves you and assuring you that you can't live without him), when she promptly (and abruptly) ended the conversation.

We haven't talked in awhile.

old comment by anon-e-moose

[1]: inanimate object
[2]: pronoun
[3]: nickname for [1]
"Why does [1] command us not to kill, yet why did [2] command so many killings in the Old Testament?”

[1] never commits murder. All of [1]'s judgments are flawlessly judicial--they are "righteous and true altogether." [2] declaration of the death sentence upon the whole of humanity--"The soul that sins shall die" was impeccably just, as are all of [2] commands.

To not trust that basic biblical truth is to believe that a morally perfect Creator is a mass murderer. Such a thought in itself is evil and reveals a lack of the fear of [1], which is the beginning of wisdom. On Judgment Day the character and wisdom of [3] will be fully justified.
I fixed it! :)

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